What Did the Grand Jury do with Lamar...
Legal Beagle
#81 Aug 16, 2012
ACOG wrote:
I need EVERYONE to understand:
The Clerk of Courts Office and Judy Odom is not involved in this.
Langley’s Office was responsible for bring the documents to the Clerk of Court.
They only have what they received from the DA’s Office.
Judy set me up with the appointment to see Jeff Langley about these documents that were missing.
Judy arranged to bring the books and documents over to Langley’s office for the ACOG to show him.
Judy guarded the documents that were not yet recorded in a book with her life yesterday. Judy stayed with us in the DA’s Office. Langley was late due to court. I told her she did not have to stay with us. She WOULD NOT LET GO OF THE ORIGINALS. She made copies to give to Langley to look at so nothing could be changed, altered or added to what she already had in her office.
The Clerk of Courts Office should be HIGHLY RESPECTED BY Union County. Each and everyone in that office has been very helpful, nice and pleasant to the ACOG.
EVERYONE should PERSONALLY THANK Judy Odom for her Honesty and Integrity in safe guarding the county documents.
My personal THANK- YOU Judy to You and your Employees for everything you do in making Union County a better place.
Maybe someday we will have more offices in Union County run the same way.
ACOG praised Judy for doing her job. Judy Odom was not doing anything special for ACOG. She was following the rules and nothing more. Ms. Odom knew exactly what she was doing and who she was dealing with. I know Ms. Odom. She is a smart woman.

ACOG

Since: Dec 10

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#82 Aug 16, 2012
Legal Beagle wrote:
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ACOG praised Judy for doing her job. Judy Odom was not doing anything special for ACOG. She was following the rules and nothing more. Ms. Odom knew exactly what she was doing and who she was dealing with. I know Ms. Odom. She is a smart woman.
EXACTLY...She was doing her job.

Don't we wish we could say that about the rest of Union County Offices.

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Oh my

Young Harris, GA

#83 Aug 16, 2012
Amos_1 wrote:
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http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
Youse find it strange AGOG would decline the D.A's offer of providing the same report Lamar did when, the D.A. himself said he had no idea what happened to those reports which indicates the D.A has a serious in-house problem of maintaining documents and not providing those documents to the Court.
No confusion on my part, just relying on the events as reported by ACOG.

It is quite clear that the DA indicated that Lamar probably made an error in supplying the Budget Report in fulfillment of the Open Records Request.

It is quite clear that the DA indicated that the Budget Report provided to ACOG was not the report presented to the Grand Jury.

It's quite clear that the DA was offering to provide a report that he claimed was submited to the Grand Jury by Lamar.

Until it can be verified what the missing attachemnts are you don't know that what the DA offered was not what was presented.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
...I showed Langley the Open Records Request and what Lamar provided me. Langley agreed that the Budget report is not a document that could be used for the Grand Jury. He said that Lamar probably made a mistake and gave me the wrong thing. He asked if I would like him to get a copy of what was given to the Grand Jury from Lamar. I told him “NO” that Lamar already gave us this as being what he gave to the Grand Jury and we did not need Lamar to make up some more BS reports.
Amos_1

Cleveland, GA

#84 Aug 16, 2012
Oh my wrote:
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No confusion on my part, just relying on the events as reported by ACOG.
It is quite clear that the DA indicated that Lamar probably made an error in supplying the Budget Report in fulfillment of the Open Records Request.
It is quite clear that the DA indicated that the Budget Report provided to ACOG was not the report presented to the Grand Jury.
It's quite clear that the DA was offering to provide a report that he claimed was submited to the Grand Jury by Lamar.
Until it can be verified what the missing attachemnts are you don't know that what the DA offered was not what was presented.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
...I showed Langley the Open Records Request and what Lamar provided me. Langley agreed that the Budget report is not a document that could be used for the Grand Jury. He said that Lamar probably made a mistake and gave me the wrong thing. He asked if I would like him to get a copy of what was given to the Grand Jury from Lamar. I told him “NO” that Lamar already gave us this as being what he gave to the Grand Jury and we did not need Lamar to make up some more BS reports.


Well he ck, it's quire clear you are flummoxed since the D.A. has said he has no idea what happened to those reports; but yet you say its quite clear the DA was offering to provide a report he claims was submitted to the Grand Jury.

Now why dont you just tell us youse dont know what in the hell youse is talking about, i.e. The DA cant provide a report when he dont have an idea where it is.


Youse needs your bugs bunny efrom cleaned and reprogramed.



Oh my

Young Harris, GA

#85 Aug 16, 2012
Amos_1 wrote:
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http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
...Now why dont you just tell us youse dont know what in the hell youse is talking about, i.e. The DA cant provide a report when he dont have an idea where it is.
But he can convey what he claims was presented, as it sounds like he was there when Lamar made the presentation.

Course you are certianly free to doubt such a claim, and until the missing attachments are found there is no proof as to what Lamar presented.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
...He asked if I would like him to get a copy of what was given to the Grand Jury from Lamar.

“Honesty & Integrity”

Since: Mar 12

Blairsville, GA

#86 Aug 16, 2012
Legal Beagle wrote:
<quoted text>I know Ms. Odom. ACOG praised Judy for doing her job. Judy Odom was not doing anything special for ACOG. She was following the rules and nothing more. She is a smart lady and knew what and who she was dealing with.
And what exactly are you implying? That she didn't give ACOG proper treatment or that she treated her "differently"?

Does your post have a purpose?
Amos_1

Cleveland, GA

#87 Aug 16, 2012
Oh my wrote:
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But he can convey what he claims was presented, as it sounds like he was there when Lamar made the presentation.
Course you are certianly free to doubt such a claim, and until the missing attachments are found there is no proof as to what Lamar presented.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
...He asked if I would like him to get a copy of what was given to the Grand Jury from Lamar.


I see's the lights are starting to come on for youse, but I's also sees the lights aint very bright yets.

“Honesty & Integrity”

Since: Mar 12

Blairsville, GA

#88 Aug 16, 2012
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>But he can convey what he claims was presented, as it sounds like he was there when Lamar made the presentation.

Course you are certianly free to doubt such a claim, and until the missing attachments are found there is no proof as to what Lamar presented.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
...He asked if I would like him to get a copy of what was given to the Grand Jury from Lamar.
ACOG, can you still get that copy the DA wanted you to have? To at least make these people happy? So you can either show it's the same document or prove its different?

Either way the damage is done and I suspect both Lamar and the DA's office are either not doing their jobs or covering stuff up.

I'm not voting for Lamar and I'm starting to question whether I'll vote for Langley. If he has someone run against him.
State Law

Manning, SC

#89 Aug 16, 2012
TITLE 45. PUBLIC OFFICERS AND EMPLOYEES
CHAPTER 11. MISCELLANEOUS OFFENSES CONCERNING PUBLIC OFFICERS AND EMPLOYEES

O.C.G.A.§ 45-11-1 (2012)

§ 45-11-1. Offenses involving public records, documents, and other items

(a) If any public officer or other person shall steal, embezzle, alter, corrupt, withdraw, falsify, or avoid any record, process, charter, gift, grant, conveyance, or contract; or shall knowingly and willfully take off, discharge, or conceal any issue, forfeited recognizance, or other forfeiture; or shall forge, deface, or falsify any document or instrument recorded or any registry, acknowledgment, or certificate; or shall alter, deface, or falsify any minutes, document, book, or any proceeding whatever of or belonging to any public office within this state; or if any person shall cause or procure any of these offenses to be committed, or to be in any manner concerned therein, he shall be guilty of a felony and, upon conviction thereof, shall be punished by imprisonment and labor in the penitentiary for not less than two years nor more than ten years.

(b) Whosoever, without authority and with the intention of converting to his own or another's use, willfully conceals any record, book, or document while on the premises of any public office or willfully removes any book, document, record, or other property from any such office shall be guilty of stealing such property. Proof of the concealment of such record or other office property while still on the premises shall be prima-facie evidence of intent to steal.

(c) A public officer or employee may detain and question any person whose conduct causes reasonable ground for suspicion that such person is engaging in stealing or criminal damage to the records in a public office.

(d) A public officer or employee causing the arrest or detention of any person pursuant to this Code section shall not be held civilly liable for slander, malicious prosecution, false imprisonment, malicious arrest, assault and battery of the person, physical injuries and mental suffering, or any other suit for damages arising from such arrest, whether such arrest takes place on the public property or after close pursuit from such premises by such officer; provided, however, that, in causing the arrest of such person, the officer or employee had probable cause at the time of such arrest to believe that the person was committing unlawful acts relating to public documents and the arrest and detention were under reasonable circumstances.

ACOG

Since: Dec 10

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#91 Aug 16, 2012
I wonder just how the DA'S Office is going to come up with ALL the OTHER MISSING FINANCIAL REPORTS for the previous Grand Jury Reports.

How can anyone prove Anything that Lamar gives us now is the documents he gave to the Grand Jury.

This is exactly why I did not care for Langley to go to Lamar's Office and come down with some made up documents.

Lamar ALREADY gave me in a Open Recoprds Request what he said he gave to the Grand Jury.

That should be the end of it. "He passed off a PROPOSED BUDGET to the Grand Jury.

Now what is the DA'S Office going to do about it. The law is clear about what they are to see and that information is to be attached to the Grand Jury's Report and filed with the Clerk Of Court.

It amazes me how people want to attack the messenger and make excuses for all the broken laws in Union County. ACOG is not being paid a 100,000 salary, spending and wasting your tax dollars.

HEEEELLLOOOO, Wake Up Union County!

www.cleanandopen.org
Amos_1

Cleveland, GA

#92 Aug 17, 2012
ACOG wrote:
I wonder just how the DA'S Office is going to come up with ALL the OTHER MISSING FINANCIAL REPORTS for the previous Grand Jury Reports.
How can anyone prove Anything that Lamar gives us now is the documents he gave to the Grand Jury.
This is exactly why I did not care for Langley to go to Lamar's Office and come down with some made up documents.
Lamar ALREADY gave me in a Open Recoprds Request what he said he gave to the Grand Jury.
That should be the end of it. "He passed off a PROPOSED BUDGET to the Grand Jury.
Now what is the DA'S Office going to do about it. The law is clear about what they are to see and that information is to be attached to the Grand Jury's Report and filed with the Clerk Of Court.
It amazes me how people want to attack the messenger and make excuses for all the broken laws in Union County. ACOG is not being paid a 100,000 salary, spending and wasting your tax dollars.
HEEEELLLOOOO, Wake Up Union County!
www.cleanandopen.org


I hopes you write that letter to the Judge.

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#93 Aug 17, 2012
Amos_1 wrote:
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I hopes you write that letter to the Judge.
Maybe the judge will realize that the old days or over and that is how he got his job. What was once covered up and life went on no loner is acceptable.

ACOG

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#94 Aug 17, 2012
Today I received back my Open Records Request for:
“ Copies of Georgia Code 36-1-6 publication of annual financial statements printed in the NGN each and every year this financial statement was put in the paper in the last 5 years.”

O.C.G.A. 36-1-6 (2010)
36-1-6. Publication of annual financial statement; contents
All boards of county commissioners, county commissioners, county managers, or other persons or bodies having charge of receipts and expenditures of county moneys shall publish a financial statement once each calendar year in the paper in which sheriff's advertisements are published in their respective counties. A copy of this statement shall also be posted twice each year for a period of not less than 30 days on the bulletin boards of the various county courthouses. The statement shall set forth the source of all income and a summary of all expenditures in a plain and simple manner that can be easily understood by all taxpaying citizens. The statement shall also contain a report of all money owed by the county, current bills excepted, of the number of tax delinquents, and the total amount of tax delinquency.
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What I was given:

NGN 4/11/07 Statement of Revenue, Expenditures and changes in Fund Balance “GENERAL FUND” 12/31/06 Unaudited.

NGN 8/22/07 Statement of Revenue, Expenditures and changes in Fund Balance “GENERAL FUND” 12/31/06 Audited.

NGN July 23, 2008 Statement of Revenue, Expenditures and changes in Fund Balance “GENERAL FUND” 12/31/07 Audited.

Union County Commission Agenda 7/15/10 Posting of annual financial statement as required by O.C.G.A. 36-1-6.

Union County Commission Agenda 12/16/10 Posting of annual financial statement as required by O.C.G.A. 36-1-6.

Union County Commission Agenda 11/17/11 Posting of annual financial statement as required by O.C.G.A. 36-1-6.

Please find attached copies from 2007 and 2008 showing where the financial report was printed in the North Georgia News. Also, I have attached copies of the County Agenda showing where the report has been posted in the courthouse. However, entirely due to error on my part, it appears that we did not place the report in the newspaper for the years 2009 and 2010. We will immediately correct that by putting the reports in the paper next week.

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The statement shall set forth the source of ALL income and a summary of ALL expenditures in a plain and simple manner that can be easily understood by all taxpaying citizens. The statement shall also contain a report of all money owed by the county,

Am I correct in inturperting it says “ALL Income and EXPENDITURES?”

What we have is “GENERAL FUND” NO SPLOST or any other accounts.

www.cleanandopen.org

“Honesty & Integrity”

Since: Mar 12

Blairsville, GA

#95 Aug 17, 2012
ACOG wrote:
Today I received back my Open Records Request for:
“ Copies of Georgia Code 36-1-6 publication of annual financial statements printed in the NGN each and every year this financial statement was put in the paper in the last 5 years.”

O.C.G.A. 36-1-6 (2010)
36-1-6. Publication of annual financial statement; contents
All boards of county commissioners, county commissioners, county managers, or other persons or bodies having charge of receipts and expenditures of county moneys shall publish a financial statement once each calendar year in the paper in which sheriff's advertisements are published in their respective counties. A copy of this statement shall also be posted twice each year for a period of not less than 30 days on the bulletin boards of the various county courthouses. The statement shall set forth the source of all income and a summary of all expenditures in a plain and simple manner that can be easily understood by all taxpaying citizens. The statement shall also contain a report of all money owed by the county, current bills excepted, of the number of tax delinquents, and the total amount of tax delinquency.
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What I was given:

NGN 4/11/07 Statement of Revenue, Expenditures and changes in Fund Balance “GENERAL FUND” 12/31/06 Unaudited.

NGN 8/22/07 Statement of Revenue, Expenditures and changes in Fund Balance “GENERAL FUND” 12/31/06 Audited.

NGN July 23, 2008 Statement of Revenue, Expenditures and changes in Fund Balance “GENERAL FUND” 12/31/07 Audited.

Union County Commission Agenda 7/15/10 Posting of annual financial statement as required by O.C.G.A. 36-1-6.

Union County Commission Agenda 12/16/10 Posting of annual financial statement as required by O.C.G.A. 36-1-6.

Union County Commission Agenda 11/17/11 Posting of annual financial statement as required by O.C.G.A. 36-1-6.

Please find attached copies from 2007 and 2008 showing where the financial report was printed in the North Georgia News. Also, I have attached copies of the County Agenda showing where the report has been posted in the courthouse. However, entirely due to error on my part, it appears that we did not place the report in the newspaper for the years 2009 and 2010. We will immediately correct that by putting the reports in the paper next week.

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The statement shall set forth the source of ALL income and a summary of ALL expenditures in a plain and simple manner that can be easily understood by all taxpaying citizens. The statement shall also contain a report of all money owed by the county,

Am I correct in inturperting it says “ALL Income and EXPENDITURES?”

What we have is “GENERAL FUND” NO SPLOST or any other accounts.

www.cleanandopen.org
What about the Statement of Revenue for 2011?

ACOG

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#96 Aug 17, 2012
UnionCountyLocal wrote:
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What about the Statement of Revenue for 2011?
Good Question!

This is August.

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Amos_1

Dawsonville, GA

#97 Aug 17, 2012
ACOG wrote:
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Good Question!
This is August.
www.cleanandopen.org


Lamar donts wants that info to get our before the election.


info

Manning, SC

#98 Aug 17, 2012
ACOG wrote:
Today I received back my Open Records Request for:
“ Copies of Georgia Code 36-1-6 publication of annual financial statements printed in the NGN each and every year this financial statement was put in the paper in the last 5 years.”
O.C.G.A. 36-1-6 (2010)
36-1-6. Publication of annual financial statement; contents
All boards of county commissioners, county commissioners, county managers, or other persons or bodies having charge of receipts and expenditures of county moneys shall publish a financial statement once each calendar year in the paper in which sheriff's advertisements are published in their respective counties. A copy of this statement shall also be posted twice each year for a period of not less than 30 days on the bulletin boards of the various county courthouses. The statement shall set forth the source of all income and a summary of all expenditures in a plain and simple manner that can be easily understood by all taxpaying citizens. The statement shall also contain a report of all money owed by the county, current bills excepted, of the number of tax delinquents, and the total amount of tax delinquency.
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What I was given:
NGN 4/11/07 Statement of Revenue, Expenditures and changes in Fund Balance “GENERAL FUND” 12/31/06 Unaudited.
NGN 8/22/07 Statement of Revenue, Expenditures and changes in Fund Balance “GENERAL FUND” 12/31/06 Audited.
NGN July 23, 2008 Statement of Revenue, Expenditures and changes in Fund Balance “GENERAL FUND” 12/31/07 Audited.
Union County Commission Agenda 7/15/10 Posting of annual financial statement as required by O.C.G.A. 36-1-6.
Union County Commission Agenda 12/16/10 Posting of annual financial statement as required by O.C.G.A. 36-1-6.
Union County Commission Agenda 11/17/11 Posting of annual financial statement as required by O.C.G.A. 36-1-6.
Please find attached copies from 2007 and 2008 showing where the financial report was printed in the North Georgia News. Also, I have attached copies of the County Agenda showing where the report has been posted in the courthouse. However, entirely due to error on my part, it appears that we did not place the report in the newspaper for the years 2009 and 2010. We will immediately correct that by putting the reports in the paper next week.
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The statement shall set forth the source of ALL income and a summary of ALL expenditures in a plain and simple manner that can be easily understood by all taxpaying citizens. The statement shall also contain a report of all money owed by the county,
Am I correct in inturperting it says “ALL Income and EXPENDITURES?”
What we have is “GENERAL FUND” NO SPLOST or any other accounts.
www.cleanandopen.org
To answer your questions, one must answer two questions. Is SPLOST moneys county moneys? Does the county commissioner have "charge of receipts and expenditures of county moneys?" If these two questions are affirmative, then it's a strong possibility that the answer to your question is, "Yes."

ACOG

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#99 Aug 17, 2012
And, what about the Butternut Creek Golf Course and Recreation Bank Accounts.

What about all the other accounts, like the EXPANSION FUND?

So many questions and no answers.

Wouldn’t you really like to know How Much this County Has?

I urge everyone to go in and look at the Grand Jury Reports. Look at Lamars first couple of years in Office. There was even bank accounts beginning and ending balances. What do you get now.

LIP SERVICE.

WAKE UP UNION COUNTY!!!

Time To turn this County Around. Think about your children and Grandchildren. There is no reason to leave them a world of debt.

Pray for Union County and Our Nation!(9:00 P.M.)

www.cleanandopen.org

ACOG

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#100 Aug 17, 2012
Amos_1 wrote:
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I hopes you write that letter to the Judge.
certified mail!!!!!!
Amos_1

Dawsonville, GA

#101 Aug 17, 2012
ACOG wrote:
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certified mail!!!!!!

Good choice.

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