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Informed Opinion

Naples, FL

#65 Nov 7, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>Ah yes, in the real world, service sector employers have been keeping employee hours below a "full-time" employment threshold for at least the last 13-years.

Why would employers do such a thing?

To keep their labor costs low. See if an employee's hours rise into full-time territory then the employee becomes eligible for the same benefits that full-tume employees are offerd by the same employer.

Where was the concern for the worker before Obamacare could be blamed?

In your example, you relate the following:
"The manager apologized that they were being forced to cut employees hours, and in addition were prohibited from hiring additional ones."

This doesn't make any sense, if the business is understaffed then cutting existing employee hours will force the employer to hire more workers just to cover the hours that the business is open (has the business announced a reduction in hours they are open ?). Since the threshold is 29-hours per week this is the maximum an employee can work and not be the responsiobility of the employer for their health insurance.

What I'm wondering is, if the employer is forced to cut hours and stop any new hires is the owner filling the gap, I doubt it.

More nonsense from your post:
"And further, these low wage folks, from the start, are being forced to take on a double load and additional duties, for the same and in some cases reduced pay, with no assurances the employer will continue to carry their health insurance, where by they will be forced into the exchanges, that arenÂ’t working, but impose exorbitant premiums, and excessive deductibles."

If the employee is currently working less than 29-hours a week for any given employer then that employee is going to be getting their health insurance thru the Exchange, and more than likely be eligible for substanial subsidies.

And further, these part-time employees never qualified for emplyoer based health insurance anyway.
Curse you and your facts, statistics, and rational analysis.

We freeloading deadbeats look for any excuse not to Man Up and buy medical insurance like real gown-ups.
Oh my

Young Harris, GA

#67 Nov 7, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
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http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
Curse you and your facts, statistics, and rational analysis.
We freeloading deadbeats look for any excuse not to Man Up and buy medical insurance like real gown-ups.
While it is unknown whether or not that poster is in fact a deadbeat, he does have a history of posting discredited chain emails without a peep of admission that what was posted was in fact another discredited chain email. Some might begin to wonder about any other stories that are presented as fact.

Course it's understandable that once you claim the moral high ground, admitting to circulating false witness does tend to tarnish the self-righteous facade.
citizen

Dawsonville, GA

#68 Nov 8, 2013
You will miss all the self-pay moneys...We pay double what you do for services and medicine!!YOU don't pay shit for me!!!
citizen

Dawsonville, GA

#69 Nov 8, 2013
The insurance companies and government have a cap on charges for services received..But if your self-pay,they pull #'s out there ass and that's what they charge...and people pay it,or screw their credit up!!!!
citizen

Dawsonville, GA

#70 Nov 8, 2013
there==their
disgruntled

Dawsonville, GA

#71 Nov 8, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Waaaaaaahhhhh !
Waaaaaaahhhhh !
Another freeloading deadbeat whining to keep getting free medical care at my expense ?
Are there any real men in Union County who pay their own bills ?
Have all the Southern Red States become populated by Girly Men who can't, or won't, be responsible for themselves or their families ?
Damn... show some pride.
Put on your big boy pants and hit medical insurance and get grubby parasitic paws out of the wallets of us responsible Americans tired of carrying your useless butts.
"Man Up", get a job, buy medical insurance and stop whining for God's sake.
Just think how proud your kids will be when Mommy and Daddy are acting just grown-ups.
. You are the most arrogant, narcissistic, close minded, selfish, uncompassionate person, and you and your parents should be ashamed of you. You are a piece of work. Thank God in heaven my grown child has got compassion for their fellow man and has the understanding that sometimes life's circumstances, such as death of a spouse, loss of their job, or terminal illness can cause havoc and heartache in families. How does my child know. I was a single parent, through the untimely death of my spouse. and received not one red cent of your precious money on government assistance, or Peach Care. Yes my grown child is proud of me and I raised a child who is college educated, self sufficient and not judgemental as yourself. I raised my child alone and no I do not have grubby parasitic paws, or a black tongue such as you do. You like to stereotype everyone. Look in the mirror. Do you like what you see? Yes there are still real men here and women too.
Jesse

Blairsville, GA

#72 Nov 8, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Waaaaaaahhhhh !
Waaaaaaahhhhh !
Another freeloading deadbeat whining to keep getting free medical care at my expense ?
Are there any real men in Union County who pay their own bills ?
Have all the Southern Red States become populated by Girly Men who can't, or won't, be responsible for themselves or their families ?
Damn... show some pride.
Put on your big boy pants and hit medical insurance and get grubby parasitic paws out of the wallets of us responsible Americans tired of carrying your useless butts.
"Man Up", get a job, buy medical insurance and stop whining for God's sake.
Just think how proud your kids will be when Mommy and Daddy are acting just grown-ups.
I've worked since I was 12 years old and work 55 hours a week now. I may not be as educated as you and don't have the time to sit on a computer all day and try to portray the working class republicans as limp wristed freeloaders like the dems really are. I do not want any free healthcare and would much rather have the right to purchase it from whatever provider I chose..the American way. I know many folks in the rural towns up north who feel the same way. I would much rather pay the penalty than have your president dictate what I have to do with my health care decisions. I also will say to your face whatever I say on this forum..which you wouldn't. So shove the girlyman crap up that rotten snatch of a sunburnt C""T you call a wife. None of these issues really even affect you anyways. Congrats on being a well-off retiree but shut up and watch the birds. Unless you would actually say these things to the majority of our faces.
Right Wing Nut III

Maysville, GA

#73 Nov 8, 2013
disgruntled wrote:
<quoted text>. You are the most arrogant, narcissistic, close minded, selfish, uncompassionate person, and you and your parents should be ashamed of you. You are a piece of work. Thank God in heaven my grown child has got compassion for their fellow man and has the understanding that sometimes life's circumstances, such as death of a spouse, loss of their job, or terminal illness can cause havoc and heartache in families. How does my child know. I was a single parent, through the untimely death of my spouse. and received not one red cent of your precious money on government assistance, or Peach Care. Yes my grown child is proud of me and I raised a child who is college educated, self sufficient and not judgemental as yourself. I raised my child alone and no I do not have grubby parasitic paws, or a black tongue such as you do. You like to stereotype everyone. Look in the mirror. Do you like what you see? Yes there are still real men here and women too.
Best post I have seen in a great while. God Bless You
Informed Opinion

United States

#74 Nov 8, 2013
Jesse wrote:
<quoted text>I've worked since I was 12 years old and work 55 hours a week now. I may not be as educated as you and don't have the time to sit on a computer all day and try to portray the working class republicans as limp wristed freeloaders like the dems really are. I do not want any free healthcare and would much rather have the right to purchase it from whatever provider I chose..the American way. I know many folks in the rural towns up north who feel the same way. I would much rather pay the penalty than have your president dictate what I have to do with my health care decisions. I also will say to your face whatever I say on this forum..which you wouldn't. So shove the girlyman crap up that rotten snatch of a sunburnt C""T you call a wife. None of these issues really even affect you anyways. Congrats on being a well-off retiree but shut up and watch the birds. Unless you would actually say these things to the majority of our faces.
Then stop being a loser and "Man Up" and buy medical insurance.

All this whining and moaning is like teenage girls when they're told they have to wash the dishes.

Don't buy insurance if you don't want to - but then when you or the Mrs. Get sick or injured please stay the hell away from the ER, Hospitals, and Clinics cause you made a bad call.

I'm tired of paying for freeloading deadbeats who bring their bleeding kids or their spouses with heart attacks, to the ER and sending me the bill.

But of course you you'll do it, walk away from the $100K bill, then go post about how bad the rest of us are who actually pay your bills.
citizen

Warner Robins, GA

#75 Nov 9, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
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Then stop being a loser and "Man Up" and buy medical insurance.
All this whining and moaning is like teenage girls when they're told they have to wash the dishes.
Don't buy insurance if you don't want to - but then when you or the Mrs. Get sick or injured please stay the hell away from the ER, Hospitals, and Clinics cause you made a bad call.
I'm tired of paying for freeloading deadbeats who bring their bleeding kids or their spouses with heart attacks, to the ER and sending me the bill.
But of course you you'll do it, walk away from the $100K bill, then go post about how bad the rest of us are who actually pay your bills.
I know of several people paying monthly medical bills,self included...NOT EVERYONE WALKS away from being overcharged for being under-insured...YOUR dear medicare has a cap on what they will pay for services..just wait and see when pharmacies go belly-up cause they can't make it on Obama care..the same medicine that costs YOU .50 (pharmacy gets,say,$12) but I would PAY out of pocket $36 for same prescription.....
Informed Opinion

Cape Coral, FL

#76 Nov 9, 2013
citizen wrote:
<quoted text>I know of several people paying monthly medical bills,self included...NOT EVERYONE WALKS away from being overcharged for being under-insured...YOUR dear medicare has a cap on what they will pay for services..just wait and see when pharmacies go belly-up cause they can't make it on Obama care..the same medicine that costs YOU .50 (pharmacy gets,say,$12) but I would PAY out of pocket $36 for same prescription.....
Little Bobby: "Dad, isn't it a good thing when people are responsible and pay their own bills ?"

Dad : Yes Bobby, that's what we call being "Conservative". We pay our bills and also pay insurance for our cars, our homes, and our health to cover bills we could never afford to pay. Bills that might reach millions and millions of dollars."

Little Bobby: "Dad, then why are some people who say they are Conservatives mad at Obama because he wants to make them carry insurance to pay medical bills they can't afford to pay ?, isn't that what a real Conservative would support ?"

Dad: "Well Bobby, it's because they aren't really conservatives. Those who object to ObamaCare don't want to pay for medical insurance they know they need. They are mad that ObamaCare might make them do the right and responsible thing. They want to avoid buying medical insurance until they get government insurance through Medicare. They want you and me to pay their medical bills until then.

Little Bobby: "But Daddy, isn't Medicare a socialist program designed to allow the government to provide medical care for otherwise uninsurable older Americans ?"

Dad: Little Bobby, someday you'll learn that those who scream the loudest that they're "Conservatives" - never are; and those who complain the most about government programs are always those who slurp up the most benefits from government programs.

Little Bobby: "Oh right... That's called "Cognitive Dissonance" we learned about that in schools during the elections - when we learned Paul Ryan was raised and educated on Social Security Tax Dollars - the same program he wants to destroy now that he's collected all the benefits."

Dad: "Yes son, it's great you are so smart - someday you'll be President !"

Glo Zell

United States

#77 Nov 15, 2013
Little Bobby: I'm is who your daddy is a talkin bout.

Your Higher Taxes pay for My healthcare thanks President Obama ...

Ha ha ha I'm getting healthcare... this is wonderful. So people keep on working. Thanks so much.

“Our Cause Isn't Lost”

Since: Jan 11

Blairsville, GA

#79 Dec 6, 2013
Ben Stein on Obama: Should Be “Charged With Criminal Fraud” for His Repeated Lies

http://www.randpaulreview.com/2013/12/ben-ste...

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