Informed Opinion

Naples, FL

#12912 May 23, 2013
And the saga continues -

Remember all those Right Wing Wackos screaming for Cheney's head on a platter for lying us into a war, so he and his cronies could profit in Billions on the bodies of our troops ?

oh wait ....

January 24, 2004: Halliburton admits two of its employees accepted a $6 million bribe in exchange for awarding Army subcontracts to a Kuwaiti-based company involved in rebuilding Iraq. Halliburton fired the employees.

January 25, 2004: CBS Television's 60 Minutes program shows how Halliburton does business with Iran even though U.S. law bans companies from doing business with the country.

January 26, 2004: New York City's controller accuses Halliburton of taking blood money from state sponsors of terrorism, such as Iran and Libya. Controller William Thompson - who oversees an $80 billion pension fund for city workers.

January 30, 2004: New York Times columnist, Bob Herbert, details how Halliburton evades U.S. taxes and export bans by establishing foreign subsidiaries.

Halliburton's Wendy Hall admits the company paid only $15 million in taxes in 2002 even though the company earned $339 million in profits from continuing operations and $12.5 billion in total revenue.

January 2004: Halliburton discloses that a subsidiary paid a $2.4 million bribe to a Nigerian government official's business in exchange for favorable tax treatment.

January 2004: Halliburton begins an advertising campaign to improve its tarnished image with the public. A television spot running on CNN says Halliburton supplies hot meals, laundry and telephone links for soldiers in Iraq.

February: The Pentagon reports that Halliburton Company would repay the government for overcharges estimated at $27.4 million for meals served to American troops at five military bases in Iraq and Kuwait last year.

In one military camp in July 2003, KBR billed the government for an average 42,000 meals a day but served only 14,000 meals. Pentagon auditors found the overcharges during a routine audit of Halliburton.

March: As of March 1, 2004, KBR is awarded reconstruction work in Iraq and Afghanistan worth at least $3.9 billion.

Endnotes:

1 through 63

1 "Defending Liberty in a Global Economy", speech at the CATO Institute, http://www.cato.org/speeches/spdc062398.html , June 23, 1998

2 GAO report, http://www.gao.gov/archive/2000/ns00225.pdf , September 2002

3 Pratap Chatterjee, Dick Cheney: Soldier of Fortune, www.corpwatch.org , May 2, 2002

4 Knut Royce and Nathaniel Heller, Cheney Led Halliburton to Feast at Federal Trough, Center for Public Integrity, August 2, 2000

5 see note 20 below

6 William Baue, Pay Dirt or Payola? How Halliburton Strikes it Rich, http://www.socialfunds.com , April 11, 2003

7 The Houston Chronicle, July 15, 1995

8 Earthrights International, http://www.earthrights.org/halliburton/hallin...

9 William Bunch, Invading Iraq not a new idea for Bush clique, Philadelphia Daily News, January 27, 2003

10 John Rega, Government Ties Helped Cheney and Halliburton Make Millions, in: Bloomberg News, October 6, 2000 and OPIC press release, http://www.opic.gov/pressreleases/archive/pre...

11 ibid.

12 ibid.

13 Jason Leopold, Online Journal, http://www.onlinejournal.com , April 20, 2003

14 David Morris, Congress Daily, April 16, 2003 and GAO reports GAO/NSIAD-97-63 and GAONSIAD-00-225, http://www.gao.gov

15 Los Angeles Times, July 12, 2002

16 New-York Times, August 1, 2002

17 ibid.

18 Pratap Chatterjee, Dick Cheney: Soldier of Fortune, http://www.corpwatch.org , May 2, 2002

19 Robert Bryce, The Candidate from Brown and Root, in: The Texas Observer, October 6, 2000

20 Bloomberg News, October 6, 2000

21 Earthrights International, http://www.earthrights.org/halliburton/hallin...

22 Jeff Gerth, Van Natta Jr., In Tough Times a Company Finds Profits in Terror War, in: New York Times, August 13, 2002
Informed Opinion

Naples, FL

#12913 May 23, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>But for some reason the American Public is not making the connection, perhaps it needs to be harped on more, or maybe the American Public understand exactly what was going on - the IRS was taking an inappropiate shortcut in identifying these groups for review.
God forbid an understaffed, underfunded, government agency use common sense to "target" likely offenders.

Why that makes too much sense.

Think our Right Wing Wacko friends will be just as outraged when the TSA "targets" the Muslim young man carrying his prayer rug onto a plane, having just purchased a one way ticket, with cash, while shouting about the "Infidels" occupying sacred and sovereign Muslim countries ?

Seems to me, as a voter, any organization who uses the "special" IRS codes to hide the identities of their contributors should be checked out - and if "targeting" makes it more efficient - have at it.

Since: Nov 08

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#12914 May 23, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
<quoted text>
See WHAT coming? I read the article. There's absolutely no point to it. He really isn't saying anything. He's a RWW physician from Missouri who wants to mouth off RWW language, again with no specific point. It's no big deal.
lol You'll see. I've no doubt of that.

Since: Nov 08

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#12915 May 23, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
<quoted text>
Want to fix that? How about voting for a Congress that doesn't block every single attempt to move the country ahead? There are real-world consequences to voting Republican. Real people suffer when you buy into the Republican insanity.
lol Good try. You voted for a failure......TWICE. Obama is so ineffective. Some Democrats don't even want to work with him.
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#12916 May 23, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
...Seems to me, as a voter, any organization who uses the "special" IRS codes to hide the identities of their contributors should be checked out - and if "targeting" makes it more efficient - have at it.
The IRS controversy isnít about taxes. Itís about disclosure.
By Dylan Matthews, Published: May 21, 2013
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/...

At some level, the scandal around the IRSís targeting of conservative 501(c)4 groups has nothing to do with taxes. That may sound weird Ė 501(c)4 is a section of the Internal Revenue Code, the entire 501(c) section exists to list groups that are exempt from some federal taxes, the IRS is the tax man, etc.

But thereís no universe in which the groups in question are going to pay taxes. Think about it. Letís say they instead register as 527 groups, enabling them to make unlimited independent expenditures. Those organizations donít have to pay taxes on contributions they receive either. Or maybe they want to be super-PACs (which are 527s, technically, for tax purposes), which can spend unlimited amounts to openly support candidates. They donít pay taxes on contributions either.

Whatís more, neither super-PACs nor other 527s have to tell their donors that they may be required to pay gift tax on some of their donations. 501(c)4s, on the other hand, have to make that disclosure according to the Congressional Research Service. Even if, for some crazy reason, they filed as a for-profit C corporations, theyíd have to spend less than they take in to be eligible for any taxes. And political groups generally like to spend whatever they can get their hands on.

So why are these groups so eager to keep their 501(c)4 status if it, if anything, puts them at a disadvantage tax-wise? Itís simple: disclosure. 501(c)4s can accept unlimited donations and donít have to tell a soul from whence they came. 527s, including super-PACs, have to file quarterly reports disclosing donors. Thatís why so many super-PACs have attached 501(c)4s, which can collect unlimited donations and then donate them in turn to the super-PAC,

...Making all charitable groups 501(c)3s could open them to that kind of scrutiny, particularly for any that deal with controversial topics, which could be far worse than anything thatís happened in the current scandal.

Or the groups could become 527s. But thatís not ideal either. Itís easy to imagine that, in a climate of intolerance, people would be afraid to donate money to civil rights groups if it was clear those donations would become public, and their neighbors would know. Or, more generally, people could be deterred from donating to causes they believe in but which are unpopular in their area.

...But thatís a values judgment about the importance of disclosure in a democracy, rather than a technical question of who pays what in taxes. Some of the last weekís headlines might have led you to believe that thereís some controversy over whether tea party groups should have to pay taxes. There isnít. No one thinks they should. The dispute is over whether they should have to disclose their donors, as a legal matter and as a moral one.

Since: Nov 08

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#12917 May 23, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, you find yourself working with false prejudicial preconceived notions rather than common sense and reality.
That leads to a lot of anger, incorrect assumptions, and illogical statements on your part.
You've heard the old saying? Garbage in--->>> Garbage out ?
That's what's wrong with a lot of RWW's. They're just poorly informed before they ever even START trying to think.
Your first sentence sounds exactly like you left wing loonies.
lol Not even a good try. Can't deny it.

Since: Nov 08

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#12918 May 23, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
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LOL, I'm looking forward to hearing you defend that the world is 6,000 years old, that Bush isn't the primary cause of the deficit, that citizen welfare programs are a bigger problem than corporate welfare, all about how cutting taxes does anything other than make the rich richer, how trickle-down economics is beneficial to the middle-class, how climate change doesn't exist, and how deregulating big-business is just GREAT for the country. I'm also really looking forward to hearing about what a GREAT job our Republican-led House of Representatives is doing.
I AM really looking forward to this.:) It should be entertaining.
We want you to defend
-that we have 58 states.
-Obama having a democrat congress for his first two years and did nothing. Now whines.(like you)
-more people on government assistence now.
-higher debt in just four and a half years instead of being cut in half.(as promised)
-soldiers still dying in the Middle East.
-rich Democrats getting a pass.(when guilty of the same thing as the rich Republicans.)
-why Obama hasn't gotten a budget passed in four and a half years.(Can't get anything pass the Democrats.)
Shall I go on?
Tonight will be fun!!!!

Since: Nov 08

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#12919 May 23, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
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Ah.... Another Right Wing Wacko with "Union Envy".
RWWs, because they don't have the courage and convictions necessary to organize and fight for their families' welfare, prefer to beg from their corporate masters like serfs to their feudal kings.
They are so jealous of union members enjoying higher wages, better benefits, nice pensions and job security, they just don't have the intestinal fortitude to fight for their rights. Serfdom is their lot in life.
Union membership is down because the corporate masters and their Right Wing Wackos serfs have joined forced to create "Right to Starve States".
Now the Right Wing Wackos get to starve.
We union members will continue to enjoy our decent wages, pensions, and benefits.
I just skimmed this, but UNION ENVY????? Glad to see you managed to maintain your sense of humor. Yeah, we ALL want to be thought of as THUGS. I truly am laughing.
Your last sentence.....you aren't enjoying them like you used to and it will get worse.
The bullying is coming to a close.

Since: Nov 08

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#12920 May 23, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow - a Right Wing Wacko almost authored a comment that addressed the facts.
No .... Wait .... He didn't.
No surprise there.
RWWs just hate those pesky things called "facts" normal folks think are so important on Planet Earth.
Pot...Kettle....

Since: Nov 08

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#12921 May 23, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
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Damn.. I'm sorry for you. Cheney and Halliburton must have made you go insane.
Cheney's Halliburton Made $39.5 Billion on Iraq War
By Angelo Young, International Business Times
20 March 13
The accounting of the financial cost of the nearly decade-long Iraq War will go on for years, but a recent analysis has shed light on the companies that made money off the war by providing support services as the privatization of what were former U.S. military operations rose to unprecedented levels.
Ten contractors received 52 percent of the funds, according to an analysis by the Financial Times that was published Tuesday.
The No. 1 recipient?
Houston-based energy-focused engineering and construction firm KBR, Inc.(NYSE:KBR), which was spun off from its parent, oilfield services provider Halliburton Co.(NYSE:HAL), in 2007.
The company was given $39.5 billion in Iraq-related contracts over the past decade, with many of the deals given without any bidding from competing firms, such as a $568-million contract renewal in 2010 to provide housing, meals, water and bathroom services to soldiers, a deal that led to a Justice Department lawsuit over alleged kickbacks, as reported by Bloomberg.
According to the bipartisan Commission on Wartime Contracting in Iraq and Afghanistan, the level of corruption by defense contractors may be as high as $60 billion. Disciplined soldiers that would traditionally do many of the tasks are commissioned by private and publicly listed companies.
You are missing the point. I read your first couple of sentences although I really didn't need to.
See...you paragons of virtue are supposed to be ABOVE such behavior. You are ALL HYPOCRITES. It is absolutely HILARIOUS. You give yourself passes, but you are guilty, guilty, guilty. THAT is why no one takes you guys seriously. Posers. HYPOCRITES.

Since: Nov 08

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#12922 May 23, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
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You must want to imprison Cheney:
1992
Halliburton subsidiary Brown & Root is paid $9 million by the Pentagon (under Cheney's direction as Secretary of Defense) to produce a classified report detailing how private companies (like itself) could provide logistical support for American troops
The Pentagon awards Brown & Root a five-year contract to provide logistics for the U.S. Army Corp of Engineers.
The GAO estimates that through this contract, Brown & Root makes overall $2.2 billion in revenue in the Balkans.2
1995
Without any previous business experience, Cheney leaves the Department of Defense to become the CEO of Halliburton Co.
Halliburton moves up from 73rd to 18th on the Pentagon's list of top contractors.
The company garners $2.3 billion in U.S. government contracts, which almost doubles the $1.2 billion it earned from the government previously.
under Cheney's leadership the company also receives $1.5 billion worth of assistance from government-sponsored agencies such as OPIC (Overseas Private Investment Corporation) and the Export-Import Bank.
1997
March: The Overseas Private Investment Corporation (OPIC), a U.S. government agency, helps Halliburton by providing "political risk insurance" worth up to $200 insurance.
The GAO (General Accounting Office), the auditing arm of Congress, reports that KBR overbilled the Army for costs associated with its work in Kosovo. It is revealed that the firm charged nearly $86 per sheet for plywood that it bought for $14.06.14 .
1998
Cheney oversees Halliburton's merger with Dresser Industries, one of the companies that helped Saddam Hussein rebuild Iraq's oil infrastructure after the First Gulf War, despite economic sanctions against Iraq.
1999
Halliburton's KBR division is re-hired by the military, after being fired in 1997, for a $180 million a year contract to supply U.S. forces in the Balkans with logistical support.
2000
August: Halliburton announces that it is giving Cheney a retirement package worth more than $33.7 million.
2001
KBR wins a $300-million exclusive contract to supply logistics to the Navy, providing services like cooking, construction, power generation and fuel transportation.
December: Kellogg, Brown & Root secures a 10-year deal with the Pentagon with no cost ceiling to provide support services to the Army.
2002
February: Kellogg, Brown & Root pays out $2 million to settle a lawsuit with the Justice Department, which alleged that the company defrauded the government.
The GAO launches lawsuits against Cheney because he refuses to turn over to Congress documents that reveal the identities of industry executives involved in the National Energy Strategy.
Brown and Root is awarded a $22 million deal to run support services at a military camp in Uzbekistan.
It is revealed that while Vice President Cheney was Halliburton, subsidiaries (Halliburton Products and Services Ltd.), incorporated in the Caiman Islands, is used since 2000 to get around sanctions on doing business in Iran.
At the same time, Halliburton's federal taxes dropped dramatically from $302 million in 1998 to an $85 million rebate in 1999.42
Despite these revelations, the company continues to be awarded massive government contracts, including a new 10-year deal with the Army with no lid on potential costs.
In the year 2002 alone, Brown & Root received $1.3 billion for services to the U.S. government.
November: Brown & Root begins a one-year contract, estimated at $42.5 million, to cover services for troops at bases in Bagram and Kandahar, Afghanistan.51
2003
Cont'd
lol You are hilarious. Again, the point just whizzes over your head. OR You have no defense. No passes for the left wing loonies. HYPOCRITES. NO CRED.
Scott

Dawsonville, GA

#12923 May 23, 2013
Why do Liberals always say "Oh wait"?

Why are Liberals o obsessed with Halliburton?

Why do Liberals always separate Americans into groups?

Why are Liberals so ugly?

Why do Liberals continue to support Obama when he ha failed so miserably?

Why is it ok for Liberals to become rich but it's not ok for Republicans?

Why is it ok for Liberals to take advantage of the tax code to lessen their tax burden, but, it's not ok for Republicans?

Why are Liberals so obsessed with Fox News? Have they ever actually watched it, or, are they just following Obama's lead?

Why are Liberals such snobs?

Why don't Liberal women shave and wear make-up once in awhile?

Just wondering.

Since: May 13

Ellijay, GA

#12924 May 23, 2013
Am I the only one that skips Informed Opinions long ass cut and paste posts?

Since: May 13

Ellijay, GA

#12925 May 23, 2013
Union envy.
That's rich! I used to live in a heavily unionized state. You should see what the unions have done to it.
It's a cesspool as are all unions states. Why do these people keep jumping their sinking ships and bring their politics down here?
Why?
ChicknButt

Decatur, GA

#12926 May 23, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>
lol You'll see. I've no doubt of that.
Nobody noticed that you didn't answer the question. Just a generalized "itsa comin'! Doom is comin'!" .
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>
lol Good try. You voted for a failure......TWICE. Obama is so ineffective. Some Democrats don't even want to work with him.
Nobody noticed that you bypassed answering in logical terms and went straight into an anti-obama rant with no foundation.

Nope. Nobody noticed at all.

Since: May 13

Ellijay, GA

#12927 May 23, 2013
I say, you broke it, you own it.
ChicknButt

Decatur, GA

#12928 May 23, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>
Your first sentence sounds exactly like you left wing loonies.
lol Not even a good try. Can't deny it.
Nobody noticed that you just said:

"I know you are but what am I?"

Nope. Nobody noticed.
ChicknButt

Decatur, GA

#12929 May 23, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>
lol Good try. You voted for a failure......TWICE. Obama is so ineffective. Some Democrats don't even want to work with him.
LOL! Whatever.

By the way, have you noticed how many Republicans (and everybody else) are completely sick of Ted Cruz?

McCain even had to finally give this moron a smack-down.

http://news.yahoo.com/john-mccain-latest-seni...

Texas Republicans - the dumbest, loudest people on the planet.
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#12930 May 23, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
-Obama having a democrat congress for his first two years and did nothing. Now whines.(like you)
Tell us all you know about the 60-vote majority required to move anything in the Senate, start there and you'll answer your own question.
ChicknButt

Decatur, GA

#12931 May 23, 2013
Synergy wrote:
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We want you to defend
-that we have 58 states.
Nobody thinks Obama doesn't know how many states there are. He misspoke. It means nothing. Only an idiot would think you can attach any significance to that.
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>
-Obama having a democrat congress for his first two years and did nothing. Now whines.(like you)
Reformed health care, millions more insured than before, womens rights, all kinds of things. Go back to the list I've posted directly to you at least 18 times when asking about what happened in those two years.

Compared to what the Republicans have accomplished since then it seems infinite. The only thing they have on their list is voting to repeal PPACA 37 times and tanking the nations credit rating. That's it.
Synergy wrote:
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-more people on government assistence now.
-higher debt in just four and a half years instead of being cut in half.(as promised)
-soldiers still dying in the Middle East.
Bush tanked economy - which is reason for 1 & 2. Bush put the soldiers in the Middle East (for reasons no one can explain except Haliburton) which accounts for #3. But once we've changed the stability factors in the region the adults have to keep troops there until a fully responsible pull-out can be achieved.
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>
-rich Democrats getting a pass.(when guilty of the same thing as the rich Republicans.)
Now you're being petty and silly.
Synergy wrote:
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-why Obama hasn't gotten a budget passed in four and a half years.(Can't get anything pass the Democrats.)
If you live on sound-bites and slogans that might sound like something to gloat over. If you look at what actually is happens on the floor and the real political process like an educated adult would, it means nothing.

What else you got? Anything that actually reflects the real world?

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