Informed Opinion

United States

#6165 Apr 6, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
<quoted text>You can't read or you just put your words in my mouth. Your orig. post#5830, p.272. "The medical insurers love it-the ceo of United healthcare received over a billion dollars for one corporate shill. Imagine how many kids could have received medical care with that billion dollars". I said I didn't believe it show me. I was correct because it was never paid and did not happen. See page #279, post#5967. This was written in 2012 not like your 2006 articles. Mine is not an article but done by a company that specializes in information. McGuire did not receive his golden parachute. I said he was a sleazeball and a crook. I know he did wrong , so what more do you want me to say? So I am not wrong as he didn't get the money. Should he have gone to jail? yes. But he has money just as the people in Hollywood and they do not go to jail either. I wasn't the judge. Saying that I thought this was o.k. and that I thought it was right is incorrect. You are like others on topix. and just make things up. So please say a small prayer for yourself so that you will learn not to put words in my mouth. I will go back and look up past post to prove my points.I say very clearly what I intend to say and do not need your help. Sorry for punctuation and spacing as your long winded post ate up all the space. I actually ended up with more room than I thought I would have.
Please just admit you were wrong.

There's no shame in learning from others. We Moderates and Progressives do it all the time.

Just plain facts:

In addition to salary and other benefits the guy received TWO BILLION DOLLARS in option and grants. He bought his way out of a federal indictment for a few hundred million bucks - walking away with OVER A BILLION DOLLARS in stock alone.

Amazingly, you think it helps your cause to argue he got less than a BILLION DOLLARS or not.

Imagine how ludicrous is it to base your rebuttal on a claim the the guy fires for stealing billions from the government got less than a billion dollars for depriving patients of medical care.

Even your have to understand that's like arguing Ted Bundy wasn't a bad guy, because he might not have killed ALL those women.

And people wonder why private insurance for medical care is a joke - and every industrialized country in the world has gone to single payer government superiors medical insurance.

By not us - no by God, were Americans and proud to be stupid.

Informed Opinion

United States

#6166 Apr 6, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>Supposedly, he is going to contribute $20,000. Considering how huge the deficient is, that's like a drop of water falling into the ocean. It's all part of his calculated sinister attempts at TRYING to look as if he REALLY cares. Pffffft.
I missed it.

How much in salary did Reagan and Bush refuse ?

Waiting .....
Informed Opinion

United States

#6167 Apr 6, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
CALIFORNIA BUDGET SURPLUS:

There's an interesting article on BBC about how California turned their financial Crisis around. Here are a few quotes and a link to the article:

"California is projecting a budget surplus of more than $1bn for the 2014-2015 fiscal year."

"The political deadlock has been broken - Democrats now have a "supermajority" in the state, controlling the governorship and both houses of the state legislature."

"Proposition 30 has been called the "Millionaires Tax" - except that in its final form it will affect everyone who earns more than $250,000 a year.

Four new tax brackets have been created for incomes above that threshold. Those who earn more than $1m will have to pay significantly more tax, backdated to the beginning of 2012"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-207...

It seems that we have a real-world large-scale model of how to solve fiscal problems and govern effectively. Elect Democrats, watch spending, and raise taxes on the wealthiest.

Where have I heard that before?

Conversely, there doesn't seem to be any model that shows cutting taxes for the mega-wealthy, screwing the middle-class, having two unfunded wars and deregulating everything is an effective way to run your fiscal affairs.
Stop bringing those facts to the table.

Republicans double and triple the national debt and turn budget surpluses into Trillion Dollar deficits.

Then they blame Democrats for not repairing the damage fast enough.

That's not opinion - that's just plain economic fact.
Informed Opinion

United States

#6168 Apr 6, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>Chickenbutt, you know as well as I that BillinDville has explained various taxes over and over. It's not what you libs want to hear(you accuse conservatives of doing that, too), so you play dumb or think you know MORE. Trust me. You don't. He KNOWS his stuff about taxes, so you might as well let it go and move on. ALL of us are pretty sick of posting the same stuff over and over. I have stated that many times. I only make half attempts anymore. It's fun until it's not. Some days I decide to jump in the fray and others I just make jokes.
Yea, I just saw a prospectus from a South American multi-national corporation that is buying over a hundred buildings owned by a midwestern state. It's rated the equivalent of AAA.

With the depreciation schedule and tax benefits it appears the annual return on investment (ROI), will be over 9%. Because its a hedge fund offering the maximum tax rate is 15%. The ROI is based on a 20 year leaseback to the state itself - now that's secure.

Minimum "buy in" is $5.0 Million.

Ain't it a great and fair tax system, we all have access to 9% returns on our investments and a 15% tax rate.

Anyone working for a living and receiving a paycheck paying a 34% tax rate - just buy into this investment. Surely everyone has at least $5.0 Million in extra cash sitting around the house so stop whining.

Yep, rich people pay 15% or less in taxes cause they are smarter and better than those idiots who work for living.

It's obviously a fair tax system for the working man.

Damn, I am one of those idiots, I left my $5.0 Million in my other pants.
ChicknButt

Decatur, GA

#6169 Apr 6, 2013
Ringsung wrote:
<quoted text>
You are liked and many respected. This may interest you
Pyongyang, April 5 (KCNA)-- The dear respected Marshal Kim Jong Un made a final decision for all-out action against the U.S. and advanced a new strategic line of simultaneously pushing forward the economic construction and the building of nuclear armed force at the March Plenary Meeting of the Central Committee of the Workers' Party of Korea. In this regard a spokesman for the Central Committee of the Kim Il Sung Socialist Youth League made public a statement Thursday.
Millions of Korean youth turned out as one in the sacred war for annihilating the enemy, true to the important decision made by the great man of Mt. Paektu, the statement said, and went on:
The youth vanguard, grown under the care of the peerlessly great men of Mt. Paektu, is ready to flatten even a mountain once the headquarters of the revolution issues an order. This is their spirit and proud tradition.
Keep the work up against U.S. imperialism and the U.S. industrial war complex
Weird post. No worries though.

http://api.ning.com/files/3y149Of9CWkVZ6Ly7aE... *LS5B*tTksEht1Br4sj1BgKhBJ*DsQ 1udsequ/Obama_CalmDownPeople_I gotthis_Lg.jpg?width=500&h eight=318
Bored

Commerce, GA

#6170 Apr 6, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Please just admit you were wrong.
There's no shame in learning from others. We Moderates and Progressives do it all the time.
Just plain facts:
In addition to salary and other benefits the guy received TWO BILLION DOLLARS in option and grants. He bought his way out of a federal indictment for a few hundred million bucks - walking away with OVER A BILLION DOLLARS in stock alone.
Amazingly, you think it helps your cause to argue he got less than a BILLION DOLLARS or not.
Imagine how ludicrous is it to base your rebuttal on a claim the the guy fires for stealing billions from the government got less than a billion dollars for depriving patients of medical care.
Even your have to understand that's like arguing Ted Bundy wasn't a bad guy, because he might not have killed ALL those women.
And people wonder why private insurance for medical care is a joke - and every industrialized country in the world has gone to single payer government superiors medical insurance.
By not us - no by God, were Americans and proud to be stupid.
You got your azz kicked and won't admit it water boy.
ChicknButt

Decatur, GA

#6171 Apr 6, 2013
Bored

Commerce, GA

#6172 Apr 6, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Stop bringing those facts to the table.
Republicans double and triple the national debt and turn budget surpluses into Trillion Dollar deficits.
Then they blame Democrats for not repairing the damage fast enough.
That's not opinion - that's just plain economic fact.
A sucker is born every minute, and in your case every second.

California:
Directors of the State Budget Crisis Task Force said their researchers had found a lot of other debts that did not turn up in California’s official tally. Much of it involved irrevocable promises to provide pensions to public workers, health care for retirees, the cost of delayed highway maintenance and an estimated $40 billion bill to bring drinking water up to federal standards.

They also pointed out many of the same unpaid bills from previous years that the governor had brought to light, like $8 billion in delayed payments to schools and community colleges, and $250 million that was raided from a fund dedicated to transportation and treated as revenue.

The task force estimated that the burden of debt totaled at least $167 billion and as much as $335 billion. Its members warned that the off-the-books debts tended to grow over time, so that even if Mr. Brown should succeed in pushing through his tax increase, gaining an additional $50 billion over the next seven years, the wall of debt would still be there, casting its shadow over the state.
Bored

Commerce, GA

#6173 Apr 6, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
<quoted text>
Weird post. No worries though.
http://api.ning.com/files/3y149Of9CWkVZ6Ly7aE... *LS5B*tTksEht1Br4sj1BgKhBJ*DsQ 1udsequ/Obama_CalmDownPeople_I gotthis_Lg.jpg?width=500&h eight=318
It means you are wanted in N.Korea, they like your style of propaganda. At least it fooled IO, who is an easy mark anyway.
ChicknButt

Decatur, GA

#6174 Apr 6, 2013
Bored wrote:
<quoted text>
A sucker is born every minute, and in your case every second.
California:.........
Since you didn't post your link I thought I'd help out.

http://thinkingrightblog.com/obama-trying-to-...

The thinking right blog? Gee..wonder if they have any bias?
Informed Opinion

Naples, FL

#6175 Apr 6, 2013
Bored wrote:
<quoted text>You got your azz kicked and won't admit it water boy.
Yep, my credibility was challenged - I provided indisputable proof I was correct -
those that challenged me admitted I was correct
- but having been proven wrong they immediately resorted to plan B
- it just didn't matter.

I cleaned house - again - with the uninformed Right Wingers.

Right Wingers always believe what is convenient, not what is accurate, Obama is a Muslim Kenyan hiding those weapons of mass destruction somewhere in Iraq; a war that paid for itself; and Bush left us with a great economy, no deficit, and he reduced the national debt.

Right Wingers love their fantasies.

Right Wing Wacko World is all yours and you can have any beliefs you like.

The rest of us here on Planet Earth will chose reality, thanks.

Why, you can even chose to believe I didn't just make mincemeat out of your pathetic attempt to avoid acknowledging having your ass handed to you.

It's fine with me.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#6176 Apr 6, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
I missed it.
How much in salary did Reagan and Bush refuse ?
Waiting .....
You missed it because the economy was different. You are Obama drunk and hopeless. Just live it. You'll see. I am perfectly confident in that.
Bored

Commerce, GA

#6178 Apr 6, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep, my credibility was challenged - I provided indisputable proof I was correct -
those that challenged me admitted I was correct
- but having been proven wrong they immediately resorted to plan B
- it just didn't matter.
I cleaned house - again - with the uninformed Right Wingers.
Right Wingers always believe what is convenient, not what is accurate, Obama is a Muslim Kenyan hiding those weapons of mass destruction somewhere in Iraq; a war that paid for itself; and Bush left us with a great economy, no deficit, and he reduced the national debt.
Right Wingers love their fantasies.
Right Wing Wacko World is all yours and you can have any beliefs you like.
The rest of us here on Planet Earth will chose reality, thanks.
Why, you can even chose to believe I didn't just make mincemeat out of your pathetic attempt to avoid acknowledging having your ass handed to you.
It's fine with me.
ha-ha-ha
what credibility?
you don't got no stinking credibility with all the crap you post.

Everything you post is usually wrong and Boring.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#6179 Apr 6, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Yea, I just saw a prospectus from a South American multi-national corporation that is buying over a hundred buildings owned by a midwestern state. It's rated the equivalent of AAA.
With the depreciation schedule and tax benefits it appears the annual return on investment (ROI), will be over 9%. Because its a hedge fund offering the maximum tax rate is 15%. The ROI is based on a 20 year leaseback to the state itself - now that's secure.
Minimum "buy in" is $5.0 Million.
Ain't it a great and fair tax system, we all have access to 9% returns on our investments and a 15% tax rate.
Anyone working for a living and receiving a paycheck paying a 34% tax rate - just buy into this investment. Surely everyone has at least $5.0 Million in extra cash sitting around the house so stop whining.
Yep, rich people pay 15% or less in taxes cause they are smarter and better than those idiots who work for living.
It's obviously a fair tax system for the working man.
Damn, I am one of those idiots, I left my $5.0 Million in my other pants.
Here's the thing. How do you know those investers were ALWAYS financially secure enough to invest? Perhaps some of those investers grew up in the hood and worked and ACHIEVED that status. Why is it that you who aren't financially able to do that are so BITTER toward thoses who are? It makes no sense. If you had that VERY SAME OPPORTUNITY, you would DO THE VERY SAME THING. You haven't reached that status, SO you want everyone who has...TO PAY, PAY, PAY. I don't have that status and I DON'T CARE what they do. They made great decisions and are reaping that benefit. I simply DON'T CARE. Kind of like how you all give passes to Obama and what he DOES. YOU don't care. Well, there is ONE difference. You think everything that Obama does is for YOU. What a laugh! I don't think the money the big dogs make is necessarily "right", but I also don't think it's right to forcefullly take it from them.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#6180 Apr 6, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
THAT'S the picture Obama sent to all of our enemies!!!!! How did you get your hands on it????? Hmmmm.
Chicknbutt

Decatur, GA

#6181 Apr 6, 2013
Now that we've proven Democratic fiscal policy works on a large scale we can move on to other things.

Let's look at Republican Fiscal Policy. What? you say. That's right. Paul Ryans budget was rejected last month by the Senate. For people with attention spans, we could go deep into the implications of his budget, but let's just say this: America has rejected that bit of idiocy.

And specifically, the Senate voted on a "No Vouchers for Medicare" amendment specifically banning that bit of insanity. It passed the Senate with a 96-3 vote. Even Republicans can't deal with their own policy.

So now that we have firmly established that Democratic policies work, that even Republicans can't choke down their own policies that they promoted during the election - what else is there to talk about?

Oh - ObamaCare. Republicans tried to repeal it late last month. That failed again. For the THIRTY-NINTH TIME.

Those poor souls. They just can't get a grip around the idea that America wants the Patient Protection and the Affordable Care Act. They're going to have to go back to their corporate lobbyists and tell them they failed.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#6182 Apr 6, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep, my credibility was challenged - I provided indisputable proof I was correct -
those that challenged me admitted I was correct
- but having been proven wrong they immediately resorted to plan B
- it just didn't matter.
I cleaned house - again - with the uninformed Right Wingers.
Right Wingers always believe what is convenient, not what is accurate, Obama is a Muslim Kenyan hiding those weapons of mass destruction somewhere in Iraq; a war that paid for itself; and Bush left us with a great economy, no deficit, and he reduced the national debt.
Right Wingers love their fantasies.
Right Wing Wacko World is all yours and you can have any beliefs you like.
The rest of us here on Planet Earth will chose reality, thanks.
Why, you can even chose to believe I didn't just make mincemeat out of your pathetic attempt to avoid acknowledging having your ass handed to you.
It's fine with me.
I just read your first sentence, but you are going to ride that fallacy forever. THAT is the ONLY time you have felt successful. 2006. Congratulations. Now! Will you please bore us with something else? Perhaps something from 2013?
Bored

Commerce, GA

#6183 Apr 6, 2013
Chicknbutt wrote:
Now that we've proven Democratic fiscal policy works on a large scale we can move on to other things.
Let's look at Republican Fiscal Policy. What? you say. That's right. Paul Ryans budget was rejected last month by the Senate. For people with attention spans, we could go deep into the implications of his budget, but let's just say this: America has rejected that bit of idiocy.
And specifically, the Senate voted on a "No Vouchers for Medicare" amendment specifically banning that bit of insanity. It passed the Senate with a 96-3 vote. Even Republicans can't deal with their own policy.
So now that we have firmly established that Democratic policies work, that even Republicans can't choke down their own policies that they promoted during the election - what else is there to talk about?
Oh - ObamaCare. Republicans tried to repeal it late last month. That failed again. For the THIRTY-NINTH TIME.
Those poor souls. They just can't get a grip around the idea that America wants the Patient Protection and the Affordable Care Act. They're going to have to go back to their corporate lobbyists and tell them they failed.


George W. Bush’s legacy grows more impressive

The retention of 98 percent of the Bush tax cuts by the most liberal president to hold office reminds us that a mere four years after leaving office, George W. Bush has a legacy that is becoming more impressive with time. Kevin Hasset of the American Enterprise Institute puts it this way:“After everything settles, people of both parties will have to agree that this was a big win for Bush. Almost all of Bush’s favored tax policies have become a permanent part of the tax code. The top rate is higher, but marginal tax rates on ‘rich’ people with incomes below $400,000 are even lower than they would have been if Bush’s tax cuts had never passed.” He emphasizes:“It is especially important that dividends will probably never again be taxed as ordinary income. Even Republicans in the House were against Bush’s dividend tax proposal to begin with. Now, even Democrats agree that dividends should be taxed less.” So much for Warren Buffett’s secretary.
Ringsung

Macedonia, OH

#6185 Apr 6, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep, my credibility was challenged - I provided indisputable proof I was correct -
those that challenged me admitted I was correct
- but having been proven wrong they immediately resorted to plan B
- it just didn't matter.
I cleaned house - again - with the uninformed Right Wingers.
Right Wingers always believe what is convenient, not what is accurate, Obama is a Muslim Kenyan hiding those weapons of mass destruction somewhere in Iraq; a war that paid for itself; and Bush left us with a great economy, no deficit, and he reduced the national debt.
Right Wingers love their fantasies.
Right Wing Wacko World is all yours and you can have any beliefs you like.
The rest of us here on Planet Earth will chose reality, thanks.
Why, you can even chose to believe I didn't just make mincemeat out of your pathetic attempt to avoid acknowledging having your ass handed to you.
It's fine with me.
We read all your posts and likely agree with all. Our respect is profound and we wish you most well. You must remain focused as you take the imperialist America to task along with their military industrial complex adoring leaders. Ignore your detractors, confound your enemies. RS/H2437 mitskun12
Informed Opinion

Alva, FL

#6186 Apr 6, 2013
Bored wrote:
<quoted text>George W. BushÂ’s legacy grows more impressive

The retention of 98 percent of the Bush tax cuts by the most liberal president to hold office reminds us that a mere four years after leaving office, George W. Bush has a legacy that is becoming more impressive with time. Kevin Hasset of the American Enterprise Institute puts it this way:“After everything settles, people of both parties will have to agree that this was a big win for Bush. Almost all of Bush’s favored tax policies have become a permanent part of the tax code. The top rate is higher, but marginal tax rates on ‘rich’ people with incomes below $400,000 are even lower than they would have been if Bush’s tax cuts had never passed.” He emphasizes:“It is especially important that dividends will probably never again be taxed as ordinary income. Even Republicans in the House were against Bush’s dividend tax proposal to begin with. Now, even Democrats agree that dividends should be taxed less.” So much for Warren Buffett’s secretary.
Yea, what a surprise, Right Wing Obama caves in to the Extreme Right Wing Wacko that ran Bush.

Imagine, a Tweedle Dee "caves in" and adopts the same policies that Tweedle Dum" adored.

We are all shocked, shocked.

Of course the answer can't be that Obama is obviously about as liberal as John Ashcroft.

Oh no - that makes sense and denies the Wackos a Leeeeberal Boogeyman.

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