NormC answers Dark Male questions

NormC answers Dark Male questions

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NormC

Cleveland, GA

#1 May 26, 2014
Dark Male asked questions on another thread. It is buried deep. So, here is a new thread to start a fresh discussion. I am sure insults and misinformation will be posted against me. But, that is something that I can live with. Have been for many years.

To Dark Male -

OK - Serious conversation.

You stated in a previous post the following: "TMV and ACOG have actually presented quite a few documents on this forum and I still have not seen any refuting evidence or facts to disprove what they have presented."

Here is your evidence

No one in any authority has taken ACOG or TMV seriously.
No one or agency has investigated Lamar's office.
No charges have been made by any agency.
No indictments have been made by anybody.

tmv and acog have asked for hundreds of documents. Posting something does not make your opinion of it true.

Consider the following, which is the tip of the iceberg.

When Linda (ACOG) asked people to show up at a budget hearing, over 200 showed up. Linda and one other sat alone. All others were in support of Lamar. He read a statement. He called her a liar and pointed out numerous things she said that were untrue. SHE DID NOT rebuttal him or challenge him on any of it.

She hired someone who specializes in taking officials down. He responded to her emails based on information she was feeding him. He dug into it. He had a meeting with Lamar. He found out Linda was a liar. Linda sued him to get her money back and lost.

Linda called WSB TV and got Richard, one of the best investigative reporters in the state and one who loves to bring down the powerful. He did a segment. He listened to Linda. He listened to Lamar. He made Linda look like a fool on television.

There have been attacks against Lamar in letters to the Office of Attorney General, the governor's office and others. They looked at it and determined there was nothing to warrant investigation.

Linda and David have hit a road block in every avenue they have tried.
When Lamar would make their information part of a meeting, I reported on it. My boss knew what I wrote was the truth because he read it before it went to print, he approved it, he had copies of the supporting documents, defended it after it was printed, and then he got scared. His decision to let me go made him a very unpopular person in this county. His decision is still criticized to this day. When he should have had my back after 18 years of 52 weeks a year with no vacations and 50-80 hours a week, he caved in. The Georgia Department of Labor determined that the "reason" listed on the separation notice was not true. I have the proof to that.

Linda Pittman and David Hopkins admire each other.
There are a few in their corner because they have a personal grudge or issue, not because there is anything illegal going on.

The community loves our commissioner. They totally reject Linda and David.

David and Linda put out a paper asking people to vote "No" on the SPLOST and illegally hung that paper on mailboxes. The vote passed with 70% approval, a clear rejection to Linda and David.

Now, there are the facts without any name calling or insults.
This information would convince any reasonable minded person " who is not for anyone in this fight" what the situation really is.

What bothers me? OK, I will talk to you about it.

I tried to start a thread where people can purchase an informative magazine www.unioncountymag.com that covers the years 2000-2012. You can buy a copy, read it, and be truthfully informed on what a great community we have.

I started a thread to tell the community I am giving students information about the dangers of illegal drugs and the illegal use of prescription pills. And what is the response from some? Lies, insults, misinformation, character assassination.

OK, Dark Male, whoever you are, there is it.
Retired Rich Golfer

Webster, NC

#2 May 26, 2014
Well said. True. Accurate.

Can't add anything more to the facts you stated.
zit

Alto, GA

#3 May 27, 2014
Just goes to show you just how corrupt our system is Norman. What did all that rambling disprove?

Another question. Do you and Retired Rich Golfer have a thing going?
Never seen you with a female?
NormC

Cleveland, GA

#5 May 27, 2014
Linda, my offer to debate you for a $10,000 purse stands. When and where. Bring cash.
tmv post

Warner Robins, GA

#6 May 27, 2014
NormC wrote:
Linda, my offer to debate you for a $10,000 purse stands. When and where. Bring cash.
I'll debate you Norm. But you'll have to show me the $10K first :) And we can include Lamar Paris. And we'll have to agree on the venue, rules etc.

You and Lamar get together, build me a platform, show me the money, and I will come. Will be a few conditions though. You and Lamar agree to the general concept and I will provide some general conditions on my part.
Retired Rich Golfer

Webster, NC

#7 May 27, 2014
It is funny that people can't accept the truth.
ACOG and tmv have been trying to discredit Union County for YEARS.
Their efforts, with documents and all, fall on deaf ears all across the state.

It is unprofessional for Lamar to debate you or anyone else. You are not a candidate running for office and have proven to be rather ... well, how do I say it .... crazy? irrational? looney? odd? I would be ashamed of Lamar if he stepped down to your level.
NormC

Cleveland, GA

#8 May 27, 2014
Hey, loser, you had your chance to get 10K from me in your lawsuit. No, wait, you went on topix and said your were going to get $100,000 from me and my house. You got no money and no house. Ha Ha Loser.

Agree on venue? We had venue - Union County Superior Court in Blairsville. You lost your debate with me, in court, the proof being you had your motion denied, mine was granted, and you surrendered.

Rules? The judge set the rules. He had to remind you of the rules. He asked you if you had ever seen hen's teeth and you said yes. Then the judge made you look silly by saying he was raised on a farm and he never saw hen's teeth. Then he told you one of your ridiculous requests had as much chance to getting approved as hen's teeth.

Now, to say I have to show you 10K first. Oh how funny from a boy who had to get $300 a month from mommie and still did not have enough to pay his monthly bills, and you were drawing food stamps. What, you going to pay me off in food stamps? Oh, how funny.

I have a copy of one of your tax returns where you did not even make $10K in that entire year.

Of course you want conditions on your part. Like what? We can't bring up your criminal past?

Already beat you once and beat you soundly. Once is enough.No need to debate because you don't have the money to pay up.

Aw, but it is so sweet for little davy boy to come to little linda's aid.

Next time you and her are in a parking lot together, maybe you can give her another "hug" like you did when you two embraced after you lost your court case here. Yea, you were being watched and I have a great camera with a great lens. Want a photo of you leaned up against your car, talking for a long time to Linda sitting in her car? I have it. You were in a public area where photographs are allowed.

Oh to see how you two admiring each other is just oh so sweet.

Huggy Huggy

LOL
Retired Rich Golfer

Webster, NC

#9 May 27, 2014
I can just see the misfits going to "judge it" over and over.
Some posts have more negative "judge it" than there are readers.

It proves nothing because a person can judge a post all day.

Y'all are kinda strange.

zit has an obsession with homosexuality as many of the posters do here. I don't know if you are homophobes or queer. Just sayin'
Sick Man Freud

Blairsville, GA

#10 May 27, 2014
tmv post wrote:
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I'll debate you Norm. But you'll have to show me the $10K first :) And we can include Lamar Paris. And we'll have to agree on the venue, rules etc.
You and Lamar get together, build me a platform, show me the money, and I will come. Will be a few conditions though. You and Lamar agree to the general concept and I will provide some general conditions on my part.
This bears repeating:

What's sad is watching a grown man with children playing on Topix all day and not supporting his family. While it may be fun and self-important to play the "savior of the world" jabbering along about the end of the world and such foolishness, most responsible people get out, get jobs and support their families.

Can you truly say that you are supporting your children? Do you have a real job? I'm not talking about pretending to be a publisher with a "newspaper" that comes out one a year? Neither is pretending to be a whistleblower / activist (agitator, more appropriately) a real job.

Seriously, Norm, with all his flaws and mistakes, makes you look incredibly silly.
just the way it is

Jefferson, GA

#11 May 27, 2014
Sick Man Freud wrote:
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This bears repeating:
What's sad is watching a grown man with children playing on Topix all day and not supporting his family. While it may be fun and self-important to play the "savior of the world" jabbering along about the end of the world and such foolishness, most responsible people get out, get jobs and support their families.
Can you truly say that you are supporting your children? Do you have a real job? I'm not talking about pretending to be a publisher with a "newspaper" that comes out one a year? Neither is pretending to be a whistleblower / activist (agitator, more appropriately) a real job.
Seriously, Norm, with all his flaws and mistakes, makes you look incredibly silly.
RRG not sure who is sicker, you or norm
NormC

Cleveland, GA

#12 May 27, 2014
JTWIS - the man sniffing the rear of the dogs slandering the good people in our community is trying to call other people sick - oh how funny.
Joe

United States

#13 May 28, 2014
just the way it is wrote:
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RRG not sure who is sicker, you or norm
Looks like a toss up!
Thomas

Dawsonville, GA

#14 May 28, 2014
Sick Man Freud wrote:
<quoted text>
This bears repeating:
What's sad is watching a grown man with children playing on Topix all day and not supporting his family. While it may be fun and self-important to play the "savior of the world" jabbering along about the end of the world and such foolishness, most responsible people get out, get jobs and support their families.
Can you truly say that you are supporting your children? Do you have a real job? I'm not talking about pretending to be a publisher with a "newspaper" that comes out one a year? Neither is pretending to be a whistleblower / activist (agitator, more appropriately) a real job.
Seriously, Norm, with all his flaws and mistakes, makes you look incredibly silly.
Bottom line the guy is a useless POS!
Dark Male

Ellijay, GA

#15 Jun 1, 2014
NormC,

Let me start out saying it is very commendable of you to get involved with working with children and I thank you for your service in the armed forces as well.

I also thank you for taking the time to respond, you seem to be a very passionate and enthusiastic man.

Lets take this in bite size chunks.

You stated that in your refuting evidence no one in authority has taken ACOG and tmv serious.

My reply would be not yet anyway.

But the evidence I am more interested in would be has Lamar show where he has paid the taxes they say he has not?

This would be very easy... cancelled check, receipt of paying taxes etc.

Now some say he doesn't need to stoop to there level but he is one that is supposed to be beyond reproach and a receipt proving that this has been paid should be soooo easy to provide......if he paid it.

Let's start with that one for now.
Retired Rich Golfer

Webster, NC

#16 Jun 1, 2014
Dark Male wrote:
NormC,

But the evidence I am more interested in would be has Lamar show where he has paid the taxes they say he has not?
This would be very easy... cancelled check, receipt of paying taxes etc.
Now some say he doesn't need to stoop to there level but he is one that is supposed to be beyond reproach and a receipt proving that this has been paid should be soooo easy to provide......if he paid it.
Let's start with that one for now.
No one but a handful of malcontents are questioning Paris' property taxes.
If Lamar ever stooped to the level of responding to people on topix, he would be chastised by the Democrats who support him and the Republicans who like what he has done in Blairsville. Lamar has supporters from each party who keep him in office. Lamar knows better than to respond to these negative peons who do nothing to contribute the UC.

Answering to the likes of ACOG and tmv would be counterproductive for a professional man.

The witch hunt has gone on for years and years. Unsuccessfully, I might add.
just the way it is

Jefferson, GA

#17 Jun 1, 2014
Dark Male wrote:
NormC,
Let me start out saying it is very commendable of you to get involved with working with children and I thank you for your service in the armed forces as well.
I also thank you for taking the time to respond, you seem to be a very passionate and enthusiastic man.
Lets take this in bite size chunks.
You stated that in your refuting evidence no one in authority has taken ACOG and tmv serious.
My reply would be not yet anyway.
But the evidence I am more interested in would be has Lamar show where he has paid the taxes they say he has not?
This would be very easy... cancelled check, receipt of paying taxes etc.
Now some say he doesn't need to stoop to there level but he is one that is supposed to be beyond reproach and a receipt proving that this has been paid should be soooo easy to provide......if he paid it.
Let's start with that one for now.
all you will get, allyou will ever get is name calling
NormC

Canton, GA

#18 Jun 1, 2014
Dark Male wrote:
NormC,
Let me start out saying it is very commendable of you to get involved with working with children and I thank you for your service in the armed forces as well.
I also thank you for taking the time to respond, you seem to be a very passionate and enthusiastic man.
Lets take this in bite size chunks.
You stated that in your refuting evidence no one in authority has taken ACOG and tmv serious.
My reply would be not yet anyway.
But the evidence I am more interested in would be has Lamar show where he has paid the taxes they say he has not?
This would be very easy... cancelled check, receipt of paying taxes etc.
Now some say he doesn't need to stoop to there level but he is one that is supposed to be beyond reproach and a receipt proving that this has been paid should be soooo easy to provide......if he paid it.
Let's start with that one for now.
First, thanks for the nice comments. I love doing my part to help my community

Good lead into a conversation.
OK - Let's create a situation.
This is TOTAL FICTION, but NormC has a bone to pick with Dark Male and wants to attack him So, NormC comes onto topix and makes the following statements.
Dark Male had a sex change operation.
Dark Male embezzled money from a boss 25 years ago.
Dark Male keyed somebody's car.
Dark Male killed a dog after breaking up with a girlfriend.
Dark Male has 17 children by 7 women of 5 different races.

Now, Dark Male has done NONE of those things. It is the rantings of a vindictive and arrogant NormC because of a personal grudge.

But, people come on here and say, "Hey, Dark Male, if none of that is true, why don't you prove it."

How do you respond?

The fact is this - Linda has attended meetings where Lamar has told people things she says are not true. But, Linda sits there SILENT and does not get up and challenge him in those open meetings where both are present. But, she slips back onto this forum and spreads more misinformation, after REFUSING to DEFEND what she has posted in an open meeting she was at.

Let us take the above situation. Dark Male is in a room of over 200 people and NormC is there. Dark Male takes every point and says NormC is not telling the truth. NormC sits there silently, not rising to your questioning my integrity. After saying nothing in response to you in open meeting where people are listening, I come back on topix, repeat the same lies and add some more lies. Meanwhile, some idiot in a place where neither of us live takes up my cause against you.

How do you respond?

Does not take a genius to figure that out.

Get the picture?

Linda and David asked voters to vote no against SPLOST for months and months, illegally hung information on mailboxes all around the county. They spread their message far and wide. Seven out of ten voters told them what they could kiss as they turn their backside to Linda and David to vote Yes for SPLOST. 70% said yes. THAT is HUGE!

Linda asked people to vote Lamar out. He got reelected him again with a remarkable majority. And remember, that was even more remarkable considering Lamar ran as a Democrat in a predominately Republican county in a predominately Republican area of the state.

Linda called Richard Beltcher WSB-TV who loves to trash political people He looked at all of Linda's information. He talked to Lamar. Richard made Lamar look FANTASTIC while Linda looked like a FOOL. If there was something wrong, Richard would have found it and reported in. Linda, came back with same lies and more lies.

Every person up to governor's office she has called has ignored her.

There is much more, but that is sufficient for now to give you an idea.

Thanks for a good conversation.
Dark Male

Ellijay, GA

#19 Jun 1, 2014
NormC,

Thanks for the reply. And was expecting the comment about Lamar stooping to responding on topix comment.

But here's the deal, Lamar is someone who is a voted in politician and is answerable to the people, maybe not here on Topix but to the people never or less.

Now I was one of those jarheads but I might even think twice about raising a fuss in a room of two hundred people who might be against me.(I probably would still do as I got a little bit of Irish in me anyway.)

Now here the deal it's not to hard to show a reciept of payment or cancelled check to totally remove any doubt, just saying it's not true is more smoke and mirror BS of someone who might be hiding something.

Do you see my point?
like someone said

Blairsville, GA

#20 Jun 1, 2014
NormC wrote:
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The fact is this - Linda has attended meetings where Lamar has told people things she says are not true.
...
Lamar has responded; however, only with name calling. Lamar hasn't shown any proof that Linda's or TMV's allegations regarding taxes, SPLOST, no decal on county-owned vehicles, etc., are false. Like someone said, he's ObamaLite -- deficit spending, non-transparency, so on, and so on.
Retired Rich Golfer

Webster, NC

#21 Jun 1, 2014
No! I don't see your point at all.

Did you read anything Norm wrote?

Do you not understand topix is not a credible forum and, yes, Lamar would be "stooping" to people who fail to present all the facts and have distorted information they obtain. The attacks and assumptions about Lamar and others in this county does not deserve a response from Lamar or others who have been insulted, lied about, and embarrassed.

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