Mangum Assistant Police Chief Suspended After DUI

The Mangum Police Department's assistant chief has been suspended indefinitely after being charged with driving while intoxicated.

[unmotivated31]

How could this be, we're supposed to support and respect our law enforcement!

[unjust]

SUPPORT OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR WHAT DRINKING AND DRIVING AND NEARLY KILLING ANOTHER MAN THERE IS NO SUPPORT IN THAT!! SOMETIMES PEOPLE HAVE TO STAND UP FOR WHAT IS RIGHT. THERE IS ALSO A 16 YEAR ON TRIAL FOR KILLING A THIRTEEN YEAR OLD WHILE DRINKIUNG AND DRIVING, SO FAR HE IS SCOTT FREE!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH MANGUM POLICE AND JUSTICE!! THE MAN THAT WAS NEARLY BEAT TO DEATH MAY LOOSE HIS JOB BUT ONE OF THE MEN THAT DID THE BEATING, AND IS SUPPOSE TO PROTECT OUR TOWN GETS A SLAP ON THE HAND AND KEEPS STARTING RUMORS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED!! THERE IS NO JUSTICE OR SUPPORT!

[Hmmm]

Why does a lil podunk town like this need an assistant anyway? What a ripoff of the locals having to pay the wages.

[TRAVESTY]

Are you kidding me......he was back at work the following week!!!! They put him on the night shift, I guess hoping no one would notice. That's a hell of a punishment!!! What a joke!!! You would be shocked at some of the things that go on in this town. I think everyone from the DA, Chief, City Mgr, on down the line should be fired!!!! There's also a man that was driving over 90 mph, drunk and loaded, hit and killed a man and yet he walks the streets!!! Not to mention bragging about how he got away with it!!! I am appalled at the injustice in this town!!! I think the man that got beat up should hire a good attorney and sue the city for everything it's worth. Which from the sounds of it, wouldn't be much!!!!

[FUOHP]

Sounds like a candidate to become a trooper....

[FYI]

Well for those of you that don’t know anything bout the court system in the world it’s slow. The 16yr old is still free and is being held accountable for his negligence. there is a lot about that accident that people don’t know and will probably never know, because they would rather listen to the rumors of this small town bs. But o well that’s your choice. My point being if you don’t know the facts then shut the hell up.
The other guy well that’s another problem. He should be and I hope to god that he will be locked up for killing that man. I mean my god I know they are trying to set an example with the 16yr old. But this guy killed someone too. There is no reason he should not pay the price too. I know he will one day but the sooner the better.
Now for the asst. chief. Yes he screwed up and yes he is paying his price as well. But if anyone had any sense at all the city can’t fire him till he is convicted of a crime. As of now he is not but I am sure that is to come in the near future. I can say that this is another situation that no one knows anything about except what they heard at the coffee shop, hair salon, or from "Billy Bob".
Now how would yall feel if any one of these things happened to you or your family and everyone talked about you or your family the way yall are?

[pissted in texas]

Why would anyone let this go on in a small town if there wasn't other trying to hide there on misgivings. I beleive the city officials that yall have elected must also have skeletons in there on closet to let this go on are just scared of confrontation?

[FYI]

pissted in texas wrote:

Why would anyone let this go on in a small town if there wasn't other trying to hide there on misgivings. I beleive the city officials that yall have elected must also have skeletons in there on closet to let this go on are just scared of confrontation?

spell check is awsome!!!!!!!!!!

[VERY ANGRY]

I have heard every bit of details in the case of the 16 year old! The 13 year old that he KILLED, was my niece! He was drinking, driving, &CHOSEpick those girls up. He along with ALL the kids in this town need to understand that drinking and driving kills!!!! Not to mention that he was 16 not 21! The number of kids that drink in this small town is out of control. Its out of control all over this country! We as adults and parents need to teach our children RIGHT from WRONG! DON'T RUN FROM YOUR MISTAKES! I guess we should just ok all these individuals actions and ignore it. RIGHT? Cause it'll go away, at least till another child is KILLED! Does anyone have a heart! We lost our sweet angel at the young age of 13! We will never see her graduate, go to college, get married, have babies of her own. Her momma will NEVER get to hold her again! No one will see her beautiful blue eyes brighten up a room again!

[Dink]

FYI wrote:

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spell check is awsome!!!!!!!!!!

Please use spell check.....awesome

[FYI]

VERY ANGRY wrote:

I have heard every bit of details in the case of the 16 year old! The 13 year old that he KILLED, was my niece! He was drinking, driving, &CHOSEpick those girls up. He along with ALL the kids in this town need to understand that drinking and driving kills!!!! Not to mention that he was 16 not 21! The number of kids that drink in this small town is out of control. Its out of control all over this country! We as adults and parents need to teach our children RIGHT from WRONG! DON'T RUN FROM YOUR MISTAKES! I guess we should just ok all these individuals actions and ignore it. RIGHT? Cause it'll go away, at least till another child is KILLED! Does anyone have a heart! We lost our sweet angel at the young age of 13! We will never see her graduate, go to college, get married, have babies of her own. Her momma will NEVER get to hold her again! No one will see her beautiful blue eyes brighten up a room again!

Well Very Angry I do see that u are that in fact angry. But I am sure that you think you know every little detail, but ask yourself one question "was you there" did you see the accident take place. No I didn’t think you was or did. Justice will be served and as I said before the court system is a very slow process. I do so agree that parents in this town need to remember that whipping that ass is not against the law, it is encouraged. Have you ever stop to think that he did not kill her. Yes his negligence could be a factor but she was chosen by god. If it wasn’t her time to go then she would still be here. I do understand that you are very hurt and I can’t say that I would not react the same way you are. But forgive and forget the bad and remember the good. I am sure that a civilized good Christian person can find it in their heart to do that.

[uranidiot]

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN AND FYI AND TRAVESTY
THE 16 YEAR OLD U R REFERRING TO HAS NOT BEEN HELD
ACCOUNTABLE FOR ANYTHING. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND HE IS STILL BEING CAUGHT DRINKING AND DRIVING. BUT AS U SAY THAT IS RUMOR. AS FOR "THE OTHER GUY"
U SHOULD TRY PRACTING WHAT U ARE PREACHING. U SHOULD TAKE YOUR ON ADVICE AND SHUT THE HELL UP.
BOTH CASES WERE INVESTIGATED BY THE OKC TROOPERS.
NOT U OR ANYONE ELSE SHOULD MAKE COMMENTS THAT THEY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT. U ASK HOW YOU WOULD FEEL IF THIS HAD HAPPENED TO U AND YOUR FAMILY BUT YET U COMMENT ABOUT THE OTHER GUY WHICH U HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT REALLY HAPPENED. WHAT IS A "TRAVESTY" IS U SAYING THAT THE GUY WAS BRAGGING ABOUT IT. WALK A MILE IN HIS SHOES THEN U SEE HOW YOU WOULD FEEL. I BELIEVE THE LESSON HERE IS "JUDGE NOT LEST YE BE JUDGED".
OH AND FYI I KNOW WHO U R NOW U KNOW WHO I AM. TRAVESTY, WELL THE NAME SEEMS TO DESCRIBE U PERFECTLY.

[InMyOpinion73554]

Let's all just take a few a moments to look at the facts....On the cop...Fact: He was drinking and driving and should be held accountable for that. As a roll model for our youth here in Mangum he should have know better then to act in that manner. On the 16 year old...Fact:He was drinking and driving recklessly. The 13 year old girl lost her life in a tragic accident that happened because of the irresponible behavior of that 16yr old boy. He should not only be held responsible for his action but he should also take responsiblity. Fact: His negligence was definately the only factor in the death of this child. If he had been driving responsibly she would be at her home now with her family where she belongs, talking and laughing looking forward to turning 14. And if the justice system was making an example out of this 16yr old boy then he would not be driving still. The only example being shown here is that it is okay for our youth to drink and drive and have fun at anybodies expense. But I guess we will just see what happens when everything is said and done. All these cases being mentioned should show the public that drinking and driving is a big problem no matter how old you are or who you are. In conclusion...You should realize that there are concenquences to the action you take. If you break the law then you are responsible for the events that happened no matter how serious they might be, due to this irresponsible behavior that you chose.

[koltsfilly]

FYI wrote:

Well for those of you that don’t know anything bout the court system in the world it’s slow. The 16yr old is still free and is being held accountable for his negligence. there is a lot about that accident that people don’t know and will probably never know, because they would rather listen to the rumors of this small town ****. But o well that’s your choice. My point being if you don’t know the facts then shut the **** up.
The other guy well that’s another problem. He should be and I hope to god that he will be locked up for killing that man. I mean my god I know they are trying to set an example with the 16yr old. But this guy killed someone too. There is no reason he should not pay the price too. I know he will one day but the sooner the better.
Now for the asst. chief. Yes he screwed up and yes he is paying his price as well. But if anyone had any sense at all the city can’t fire him till he is convicted of a crime. As of now he is not but I am sure that is to come in the near future. I can say that this is another situation that no one knows anything about except what they heard at the coffee shop, hair salon, or from "Billy Bob".
Now how would yall feel if any one of these things happened to you or your family and everyone talked about you or your family the way yall are?

Trust me, In these blogs, they do talk bad about the victims whoever they are and whether they know the facts or not. They also try and convict the suspect before all the facts are out. They have no compassion nor do they care about the facts. All they care about is themselves and trying to make themselves look big and important.

[koltsfilly]

FYI wrote:

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Well Very Angry I do see that u are that in fact angry. But I am sure that you think you know every little detail, but ask yourself one question "was you there" did you see the accident take place. No I didn’t think you was or did. Justice will be served and as I said before the court system is a very slow process. I do so agree that parents in this town need to remember that whipping that **** is not against the law, it is encouraged. Have you ever stop to think that he did not kill her. Yes his negligence could be a factor but she was chosen by god. If it wasn’t her time to go then she would still be here. I do understand that you are very hurt and I can’t say that I would not react the same way you are. But forgive and forget the bad and remember the good. I am sure that a civilized good Christian person can find it in their heart to do that.

Don't blame evil on God. He doesn't take children like that. It is pure unadulterated evil.

[Dink]

You should be ashamed of yourself FYI!!! I'm not a gambling person but for once I'd bet that that little girl's Aunt does know EVERY little detail of the happenings of that night and then some! She also has the right to be angry for it's the second stage of GRIEF...so what's YOUR excuse? Were you there at the hospital just after the wreck? Did you see that girl's father doing his best to hold her mother up after the Troopers told her that their daughter wouldn't be coming home?...did you hear the girl's mother cry out for her baby girl?...did you see her mother cradle herself and say over and over again "This is not happening...this is not happening"?...did you see another mother kneel at her side to give comfort for she too had just lost her baby girl just days before? No, I didn't think that you did...and that's why it's so easy for you to so callously attack her Aunt like this!
I hope that JUSTICE will be served but JUSTICE won't bring that little girl back home to her mother's arms where she belongs...nor will it give much comfort to her family. How can you say that the driver's negligence COULD be a factor but she was chosen by God??? This was not of God's doings...and if you keep thinking that it was, then you're part of the problem...shifting the blame. The driver of that vehicle made a conscious decision to drink and drive...and he knew that three other lives were at his mercy. You tell her family to forgive and to forget the bad times and remember the good...I'm sure that brings them much comfort for her memories are all that they have left of her.

[FYI]

Dink wrote:

You should be ashamed of yourself FYI!!! I'm not a gambling person but for once I'd bet that that little girl's Aunt does know EVERY little detail of the happenings of that night and then some! She also has the right to be angry for it's the second stage of GRIEF...so what's YOUR excuse? Were you there at the hospital just after the wreck? Did you see that girl's father doing his best to hold her mother up after the Troopers told her that their daughter wouldn't be coming home?...did you hear the girl's mother cry out for her baby girl?...did you see her mother cradle herself and say over and over again "This is not happening...this is not happening"?...did you see another mother kneel at her side to give comfort for she too had just lost her baby girl just days before? No, I didn't think that you did...and that's why it's so easy for you to so callously attack her Aunt like this!
I hope that JUSTICE will be served but JUSTICE won't bring that little girl back home to her mother's arms where she belongs...nor will it give much comfort to her family. How can you say that the driver's negligence COULD be a factor but she was chosen by God??? This was not of God's doings...and if you keep thinking that it was, then you're part of the problem...shifting the blame. The driver of that vehicle made a conscious decision to drink and drive...and he knew that three other lives were at his mercy. You tell her family to forgive and to forget the bad times and remember the good...I'm sure that brings them much comfort for her memories are all that they have left of her.

You know I cant see how anyone can say that they know every little detail to what happened, not only in this case but to anything that happens in life, unless they seen it with their own eyes. I think you are very right she does have the right to be angry. You also think that god had nothing to do with this it was the devil all the way. Well I do and that, just like the rest of all these blogs is an opinion that everyone is entitled to. But in a case a serious as this, facts not rumors would be appropriate. I will be the first to admit that I by far know many facts about this and that is the reason I comment to everyone’s thoughts. I just think that a lot of people are a bit narrow minded and should not only think of their self but think about others as well. I think it goes something like treat everyone equally. As an outsider to all people mentioned on this blog, I just think it is ridiculous the way people lash out and talk trash about people. It’s just a sad situation for everyone.

[Shocked]

FYI wrote:

Well for those of you that don’t know anything bout the court system in the world it’s slow. The 16yr old is still free and is being held accountable for his negligence. there is a lot about that accident that people don’t know and will probably never know, because they would rather listen to the rumors of this small town bs. But o well that’s your choice. My point being if you don’t know the facts then shut the hell up.
The other guy well that’s another problem. He should be and I hope to god that he will be locked up for killing that man. I mean my god I know they are trying to set an example with the 16yr old. But this guy killed someone too. There is no reason he should not pay the price too. I know he will one day but the sooner the better.
Now for the asst. chief. Yes he screwed up and yes he is paying his price as well. But if anyone had any sense at all the city can’t fire him till he is convicted of a crime. As of now he is not but I am sure that is to come in the near future. I can say that this is another situation that no one knows anything about except what they heard at the coffee shop, hair salon, or from "Billy Bob".
Now how would yall feel if any one of these things happened to you or your family and everyone talked about you or your family the way yall are?

Explain to me exactly how this 16 yr old is being held accountable.
Pickup was replaced, he drives to school, drives to work, drives the drag, hangs/parties with his friends, rodeos..... need I go on?????

I however agree with you on the fact that another life was taken because of drinking and driving, just days later, but because both parties were drunk no one is accountable???? How is this so?

Only those that lost their life to soon have been held accountable. They made a foolish decision and now their families are the ones who suffer for the choices they made.

One of the biggest problems with our legal system is that it is so slow, many people go months before they are convicted of drinking and driving, and during that time will repeat the offense several times, and in most cases don't get caught. If we really want to make a difference, we all have to work together to revamp how the law works.....
According to our 6th Amendment "In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district where in the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence."

When does this actually apply???
The court system is so clogged up because, MOST people will not take responsiblity for their actions. Pleading 'NOT GUILTY' when they were clearly drinking (blood tests/breathlizer confirming) and driving, therefor hiring lawyers that take up everyone's time, money and patience.

I could go on and on, but I will leave it at that.

[Watchekee]

Will if people would discipline their children then this would never happened!
his mother just let him run wild since the day he learned to run. she never held him accountable for nothing!
he went around being mean to animals and beating up kids and the mom thought it was all funny!! and now he has killed a little girl and she is still isn't making him mind. Has this boy had any counseling to help him? i think he needs it and i think so does the mother! only a mother would defined this action with such conviction.

[used to live there]

I dont live in Mangum any longer, but I have friends and family there---and I know the family of both partys in this wreck very very well---I only have this too say---It is true this boy has never been held accountable for anything in his life--and anything he has ever done has always been "someone elses fault".However his parents are good people-- but just like so many of us,unable to see fault in their children.
As far as the young girl goes. God bless her young life that ended so terribly,but as the facts seem to show--she was not without some guilt in this herself--she was supposed to be spending the night with a friend--and went out--where was the mother of that friend that let two young young girls out at that hour of the night? When my kids were still young and at home--if I let a child come over to spend the night--I figured that childs parent had trusted the safety of that child to me and I took that responsibility seriously. I think this was a tragic accident, and one that will haunt that young man forever---but God forgives, and so who are we to not do the same!I know of many many terrible things that have happened in Mangum--just like other towns. So why not let justice takes its turn and leave it to the courts to decide the punishment or fate of this young man--and most of all we need to pray that both familys find peace from this terrible accident.