Suspect in brutal death of Cave Creek...

Suspect in brutal death of Cave Creek woman arrested

There are 1049 comments on the KTVK Phoenix story from Jul 15, 2008, titled Suspect in brutal death of Cave Creek woman arrested. In it, KTVK Phoenix reports that:

Late Monday night, Maricopa County Sheriff's detectives went to the Cave Creek home of Justin Wade Lunsford, 26, and arrested him in the first degree murder of Mary Elisabeth Polgar.

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one possible reason is

Mesa, AZ

#416 Aug 25, 2008
one who knows wrote:
<quoted text> Don't you think if this guy Sam was involved Lunsford would talk and he'd be arrested...and I saw this kid and he has always had a very short or shaved head of brown black hair. He looks italian and is lean about 170 lbs. doesn't match the truck discription...don't get me wrong this kid sam is bad news as are many guys in the cave creek bars but the only one arrested is lunsford and i don't think lunsford is protecting this idiot. I am sure he would talk especially with possibly facing the death penalty..it goes to show what type of person Lunsford is by the company he keeps with people such as this psycho Sam
ATF often does not make immediate arrests in order to pursue racketeering activities, using wiretaps, etc. These undercover operations can last for years.
old friend

Seattle, WA

#417 Aug 25, 2008
Well I havent been back to cave creek in a year or so, but there has seemed to be a trend of reasons why I dont need to go back. I grew up in the creek, consider myself a true creeker, and have known Justin since the 1st grade. There was a group of us in the class of 2000 that partied hard enough to be at college drug use status, but we werent. Half the football team was high as shit, and a good amount of us did every drug imaginable. After I left the creek in 2001, I noticed some of us creekers moved on and kicked the substance abuse we called friendships. And unfortunately some of us continued to abuse drugs and complete the process of addiction. I stopped going back to all the silly bars and friends houses in cave creek because many of us from the class of 2000 didnt grow up. We didnt allow our minds to develope proporly due to the constant flow of foriegn chemicals into our bodies. We even lost a dear friend a couple years back to heroin overdose, and he was truley a gem.

I beleive Justin has a good heart, and he is most likely a sweet and caring guy. But I guarentee that Justin has never truly been able to be Justin becuase of his adimate dedication to getting fucked up. I never quit smokin weed, but all the white shit that people are doing down there seriosuly fucks people up. Last time I saw Justin was at cocamo joes in north scottsdale about a year ago. He was extremely lit, and his was of thinking seemed oddly similar to those he had in highschool. I do not doubt the people Justin was involved with are sketchy. But when someone is as dependent on substances as Justin has been for the past ten years, decisions in life become handled with less care and less responsibility.
Fenris

United States

#418 Aug 25, 2008
IN az wrote:
<quoted text>
Funny how the worst you can find on me is traffic violations huh? How shall I say let those without sin cast the first stone? I dont know ONE person who does not have a traffic violation, lol. Please get a hobby.
Just to clarify Ms Tarver, in 6 (yes, six) years of driving, you have been cited 13 times for:

1)11 moving violations of various types.
2)3 counts of failure to appear, including (at least) 1 warrant being issued for your arrest.
3)1 count for knowingly displaying a fictitious license plate.
4)1 count of driving on a suspended license.
5)1 count of no valid insurance.

While this in no way makes you a hardcore criminal, it does illustrate that at the very least you are guilty of very poor judgement and a cavalier attitude towards the law & safety of others. That seems to be a very common thread in this story; i.e. drugs, booze, reckless behavior, arrrests, jail. Very shortly, you will be able to add "ex-wife of a prison inmate" (perhaps even death row) to your resume'. No one is claiming holier-than-thou status here, but certainly it should be apparent to you that your low rent "stand by your man" routine not only places yourself and all the other players in this little soliloquy in the public eye, but it is harming whatever chance said ex-husband may have at a fair trial. I am quite sure Mr Lunsford's defense counsel cringes every time you put a finger on a keyboard, just as I am sure law enforcement monitors it for any interesting developments (such as your insistence on driving without a driver's license). It seems every time you appear here, more posters like "old friend" from Seattle above appear, making the situation far worse (although not admissable in court). Toxicology reports generally dont lie, so we will soon know the truth regarding the drug issue you have been adamantly denying. Certainly it is time for you to wisen up, use your head, and fly right. Otherwise, MCSO has plenty of paper and pens, and it is just a matter of if, not when..........
Brit

Poston, AZ

#419 Aug 25, 2008
Fenris wrote:
<quoted text>
Just to clarify Ms Tarver, in 6 (yes, six) years of driving, you have been cited 13 times for:
1)11 moving violations of various types.
2)3 counts of failure to appear, including (at least) 1 warrant being issued for your arrest.
3)1 count for knowingly displaying a fictitious license plate.
4)1 count of driving on a suspended license.
5)1 count of no valid insurance.
While this in no way makes you a hardcore criminal, it does illustrate that at the very least you are guilty of very poor judgement and a cavalier attitude towards the law & safety of others. That seems to be a very common thread in this story; i.e. drugs, booze, reckless behavior, arrrests, jail. Very shortly, you will be able to add "ex-wife of a prison inmate" (perhaps even death row) to your resume'. No one is claiming holier-than-thou status here, but certainly it should be apparent to you that your low rent "stand by your man" routine not only places yourself and all the other players in this little soliloquy in the public eye, but it is harming whatever chance said ex-husband may have at a fair trial. I am quite sure Mr Lunsford's defense counsel cringes every time you put a finger on a keyboard, just as I am sure law enforcement monitors it for any interesting developments (such as your insistence on driving without a driver's license). It seems every time you appear here, more posters like "old friend" from Seattle above appear, making the situation far worse (although not admissable in court). Toxicology reports generally dont lie, so we will soon know the truth regarding the drug issue you have been adamantly denying. Certainly it is time for you to wisen up, use your head, and fly right. Otherwise, MCSO has plenty of paper and pens, and it is just a matter of if, not when..........
I still see no problem here, and am extremely curious as to why you concern yourself with my driving history so much.(Which by the way there are not 13 seperate violations, could it have crept into your head that perhaps there were numerous citations on one ticket, a.k.a couldnt find my card, etc so that would be added to the SAME ticket, yet filed under a seperate citation on your little online reference site)

Would you like to take a look as well and see that I have NO DUI's, and no other issues of any kind?(Oh excuse me, before you decide to pry further let me clarify that the ONLY other thing I have is a CURFEW violation from when I was 17 for being out past ten and unfortunately ran into an officer who had nothing better to do. As far as your involvement, why are you speaking on here?
Why continue to contribute to the demeaning and rediculously rude statements that only those who are ignorant seem to rant about here?

Im sorry, but you are sadly mistaken if you think my driving record is going to have any effect whatsoever on the outcome of Justins trial.

As far as "resume's" go, I'm sure another of equally if not more enticing attributes of mine will outwiegh having been married to someone who was in the wrong place at the wrong time, let alone be questioned on the first place.

As far as trying to "scare" me with MCSO, well, lets just say there are a number of things there that you ALSO do not know, so before you attempt to threaten me, I would recommend you conduct some more research in prying into MY personal life.

This, ONCE AGAIN, is not about me.
So, seeing as you have nothing to contribute, kindly stop posting nonsense, or maybe take the time to at least know what you are talking about.

As far as the stand by your man "routine" that you so claim it to be, that will not change. Sorry to burst your bubble but it's called LOYALTY, and something that seems to unfortunately bewilder you.

Well, best of luck with that.

Brit

Poston, AZ

#420 Aug 25, 2008
Fenris wrote:
<quoted text>
Just to clarify Ms Tarver, in 6 (yes, six) years of driving, you have been cited 13 times for:
1)11 moving violations of various types.
2)3 counts of failure to appear, including (at least) 1 warrant being issued for your arrest.
3)1 count for knowingly displaying a fictitious license plate.
4)1 count of driving on a suspended license.
5)1 count of no valid insurance.
While this in no way makes you a hardcore criminal, it does illustrate that at the very least you are guilty of very poor judgement and a cavalier attitude towards the law & safety of others. That seems to be a very common thread in this story; i.e. drugs, booze, reckless behavior, arrrests, jail. Very shortly, you will be able to add "ex-wife of a prison inmate" (perhaps even death row) to your resume'. No one is claiming holier-than-thou status here, but certainly it should be apparent to you that your low rent "stand by your man" routine not only places yourself and all the other players in this little soliloquy in the public eye, but it is harming whatever chance said ex-husband may have at a fair trial. I am quite sure Mr Lunsford's defense counsel cringes every time you put a finger on a keyboard, just as I am sure law enforcement monitors it for any interesting developments (such as your insistence on driving without a driver's license). It seems every time you appear here, more posters like "old friend" from Seattle above appear, making the situation far worse (although not admissable in court). Toxicology reports generally dont lie, so we will soon know the truth regarding the drug issue you have been adamantly denying. Certainly it is time for you to wisen up, use your head, and fly right. Otherwise, MCSO has plenty of paper and pens, and it is just a matter of if, not when..........
Ah, and lastly to clarify the "knowingly displaying a fictitious plate" did you go on further to read that it was dismissed by the city due to the fact that I had purchased a new vehicle and had not yet replaced the old plate with the new one while driving? Or did you just want to make it sound like you had uncovered some juicy, dirty past of mine to accompany your rediculous commentary? Also, the other numerous dismissals that you fail to mention making my violations...oh lets see..... about six in the past six years? So that could be one a year...or who knows, maybe I had a bad year and got two which would leave the last ticket free... So I have a lead foot...anything else?

At least its not a drinking/drug/etc problem.Would you care to share your record sir/ma'am? Or would it simply put you to shame?

Hm... looking for clues...blowing things out of proportion, not divulging the true/whole story or even factual information if it indeed plays against your case or story...If I didnt know better I would say you worked for the media...
LOL

Phoenix, AZ

#421 Aug 25, 2008
Ummmm looks like there has been some info left out here on Brit! Looks like another great character to me. You are so pathetic Brittany, go hide in a hole where you belong.

Civil Court Case Information - Case History
Case Information
Case Number: CV2008-052802 Judge: Albrecht, Richard
File Date: 7/25/2008 Location: Northeast
Case Type: Civil
Party Information
Party Name Relationship Sex Attorney
Dana Realmuto Plaintiff Unknown Pro Per
Kellie Realmuto Plaintiff Unknown Pro Per
Brittany Tarver Defendant Unknown Pro Per
Case Documents
Filing Date Description Docket Date Filing Party
7/25/2008 IPH - Injunction Prohibit Harassment 7/28/2008
7/25/2008 PIH - Petition For Injunction Of Harassment 7/28/2008 Plaintiff(1)
Fenris

United States

#422 Aug 25, 2008
Brit wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, and lastly to clarify the "knowingly displaying a fictitious plate" did you go on further to read that it was dismissed by the city due to the fact that I had purchased a new vehicle and had not yet replaced the old plate with the new one while driving? Or did you just want to make it sound like you had uncovered some juicy, dirty past of mine to accompany your rediculous commentary? Also, the other numerous dismissals that you fail to mention making my violations...oh lets see..... about six in the past six years? So that could be one a year...or who knows, maybe I had a bad year and got two which would leave the last ticket free... So I have a lead foot...anything else?
At least its not a drinking/drug/etc problem.Would you care to share your record sir/ma'am? Or would it simply put you to shame?
Hm... looking for clues...blowing things out of proportion, not divulging the true/whole story or even factual information if it indeed plays against your case or story...If I didnt know better I would say you worked for the media...
While I would really not go around bragging that you havn't yet received a DUI when you are only 22, again no one is saying you are public enemy #1. You just dont seem to be very wise in your decision-making processes, associations, or respect for the law (a trait that seems to be shared by all in this circle of family & friends). Time will tell if these faults derail you as they have Mr Lunsford. There certainly seem to be a lot of bad actors being floated about in this group. It appears the Mr Samuel James Parker (supposedly Mr Lunsford's local associate) mentioned in "Creekers" above post has his OWN date with prison next week in a drug violation/probation revocation sentencing. A quick background search on him is REALLY interesting reading as well. And no, I am not a member of the media. This info is available to anyone who wants it; potential employers, educational institutions, insurance agents, etc etc. Again, just because of that fact alone you should probably clean up your act....

In any event that was my only point, and judgment of guilt or innocence will be made in the criminal justice system. It should be an extremely lively and interesting trial, as it appears that Mr Lunsford's criminal defense attorney is extremely "colorful" as well!!

ARIZONA

Lawyer’s F-ing T-Shirt Not Grounds for Sanction, Hearing Officer Says
By Debra Cassens Weiss

8-20-08 -- A hearing officer in Arizona is recommending dismissal of misconduct charges against a lawyer with an unusual communications style.... Lawyer Jeffrey Mehrens showed up to interview two police officers in a vehicular manslaughter case against his client in a T-shirt sporting a slogan. It read,“Let the f---ing begin,” according to the hearing officer’s report (PDF). Mehrens said the intent was to communicate his feeling that his client was at a disadvantage because of police conduct. The prosecutor who was present felt the apparel was inappropriate.... The state bar cited the T-shirt and two other incidents involving prosecutors in its complaint against Mehrens. But hearing officer Robert Stephan Jr. wasn’t persuaded the conduct amounted to an ethical violation.... In a second incident, Mehrens sent a note to the prosecutor who had objected to his T-shirt. It said she had a poor selection of magazines in her waiting room and he was going to take care of the problem with a gift subscription to Modern Drunkard Magazine.
Fenris

Phoenix, AZ

#423 Aug 25, 2008
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Phoenix, AZ

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Phoenix, AZ

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Your ALL STUPID

United States

#426 Aug 25, 2008
I'm Justins love toy!! Please please set him free!!
Fenris

Mesa, AZ

#427 Aug 25, 2008
I'm sorry for interrupting your forum with unrelated trash, I'm just an angry unloved idiot and just need to lash out.
Fenris

Mesa, AZ

#428 Aug 26, 2008
I forgot...I'm also a sanctimonious jerk, obviously without a life here in Logan, Home of the Fighting Corn.
ummm ok

Phoenix, AZ

#429 Aug 26, 2008
god there is nothing like a ugly skinny girl like brittany trying to make it sound like shes all smart and shit .. Please brittany >.. get back to dancing at least that was worth a laugh
Fenris

Mesa, AZ

#430 Aug 26, 2008
ummm ok wrote:
god there is nothing like a ugly skinny girl like brittany trying to make it sound like shes all smart and shit .. Please brittany >.. get back to dancing at least that was worth a laugh
You are pathetic. We are talking about serious traffic violations here! Get serious.
ummm ok

Mesa, AZ

#431 Aug 26, 2008
Fenris, lay off! I am no more pathetic than you.
Fenris

Mesa, AZ

#432 Aug 26, 2008
ummm ok wrote:
Fenris, lay off! I am no more pathetic than you.
Screw you ummmm ok"! You aren't even literate and I'm real smart.
Fenris

United States

#433 Aug 27, 2008
"Mystery man" become a "wanted man" as the plot thickens!!! 6 days on the run and counting!!

Criminal Court Case Information - Case History
Case Information
Case Type: Criminal Location: Downtown
Party Information
Party Name - Number Relationship Sex Attorney Judge Case #
State Of Arizona -(1)
Plaintiff N/A COUNTY ATTORNEY CRIMINAL -CCC,
Samuel James Parker -(2)
Defendant M Goebel, Jonathan Morrow CR2008-149969-001

Case Documents
Filing Date Description Docket Date Filing Party
8/22/2008 WAR - Warrant For Arrest - Party (001) 8/25/2008
8/22/2008 102 - ME: Waiver Prelim Hrg/Plea - Party (001) 8/22/2008
8/19/2008 WWP - Waiver With a Plea - Party (001) 8/25/2008
8/19/2008 INF - Information - Party (001) 8/25/2008
8/19/2008 NAR - Notice Of Appearance - Party (001) 8/20/2008
8/13/2008 DCO - Direct Complaint - Party (001) 8/13/2008
8/12/2008 NAR - Notice Of Appearance - Party (001) 8/25/2008
Case Calendar
Date Time Event
8/19/2008 8:30 Preliminary Hearing
8/19/2008 8:31 Original Arraignment Hearing
9/4/2008 8:00 Sentencing
Brit

Poston, AZ

#434 Aug 27, 2008
Hmmm... very interesting.
Thing is he was arrested on warrant (the last posted "Aug.22nd" update) and was already bailed out. It had nothing to do with this case though, and he hasnt been running for six days. I was on the phone with a good friend of mine who use to date him and his parents were trying to get her to pick him up since he made bail. She wanted nothing to do with him though, but he did call her again once he got home. So he's not M.I.A. or anything.
Former Creeker

Partlow, VA

#435 Aug 27, 2008
I just have to say that, whether he is guilty or not, Liz is still dead. Someone still killed her and if he didn't do it, he knows who did, so why hasn't he spoken up about who did it. Justin is not some little guy, so saying he was "hit over the head" is some kind of BS. I too, went to high school with Justin, and stayed far away from him, as I was scared of him. Doesn't surprise me that he more than likely did this. Sad to say but when I heard the story it didn't surprise me because Justin is one scary guy and messed up in the head on drugs too. Yes Liz was obviously on drugs also, but that doesn't give you the right to kill her and her animals. I'm not going to say I hope Justin dies, because I don't, but I heard the prosecuters were seeking the death penalty and well I hope justice is served. That is in fact, why we have a judicial system right?

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