Measure to abolish North Dakota prope...

Measure to abolish North Dakota property taxes on ballot

There are 65 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Apr 29, 2011, titled Measure to abolish North Dakota property taxes on ballot. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

A proposed constitutional amendment to abolish property taxes in North Dakota has been approved for the ballot.

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whatever

Saint Paul, MN

#42 May 1, 2011
Evangilizer wrote:
What a great way to eliminate education..........
there is no public education system, only brownshirts begging for more money
Hard Rock Miner

Ely, MN

#43 May 1, 2011
N.D. has a huge budget surplus and no state taxes. I think sales taxes are the way to go and eliminate all payroll and property taxes. Frugal, buy used? NO TAX. A large % of the folks on the dole in MN came to MN because of our generous welfare system. They did not move here for "a better life", they came for more free money.
Christian Right Strikes

Minneapolis, MN

#44 May 1, 2011
What's the big deal? How will the elimination of local taxes negatively impact the evangelical churches, the "christian" schools, and the State's dependence on ignorance to maintain its nearly 3rd world farm/fundamental religious status?
The only identifiable city, Fargo gets its expenses covered by exhorbidant having "fool me every spring" Federal taxpayers bailing out their leaky boat.
What better way to eliminate the immoral public school system, put farmers in charge of guns and crime control, and getting rid of illegal aliens and home grown deadbeats, who will lose their welfare support system. God knows there are a lot of Minnesota residents who just might move to such a theocracy and both states would be better off.

Since: Jan 09

United States of America

#45 May 1, 2011
tom wrote:
Soon North dakota wont have any source of income and everything there will come to a ginding halt...Dont drive to ND in teh future there roads will be dirt and schools will be run down with minimum wage teachers....It will be like mid 1800,s there.
Tom, get informed, their state is the only one to have a surplus.
Real Track Guy

Minneapolis, MN

#46 May 2, 2011
I've long said that there should be no thing as "Property Tax." I would be more than fine with raising sales tax to get rid of property tax. With property taxes, you never really own your house....you just rent it from the government. Don't believe me? Stop paying your property taxes and see what happens. Old Uncle Sam will come and take HIS house from you.
Bikerr

Saint Paul, MN

#47 May 2, 2011
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>they're getting more back from the federal gov't than they pay in. We have to pick up thier tab for them. that would be a welfare state.
----Just in case your needing this info..-------According to a report by the Tax Foundation, some states receive more from the federal government than they pay in taxes on a per capita basis, while others receive less. The Tax Foundation contends that the reason for this imbalance is higher incomes in some states and a progressive income tax, which accentuates the revenue differences between high and low income states. There is, however, a relationship between the ratio of federal expenditures to tax revenues and state population. States with small populations tend to receive more money from the federal government than they pay in taxes. This can be explained by the fact that each Senator has equal bargaining power, but an unequal number of constituents with whom to share federal funds and tax breaks.--------North Dakota has fewer people hence there money goes farther and is bigger. It's not a welfare state,They have more oil than Saudia Arabia. So before you go dishing that state Follow the money.
they call it

Saint Paul, MN

#48 May 3, 2011
Bob the Bilderberger wrote:
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ND needs to implement the Palin plan. She charged the oil companies a royalty for every barrel of oil they drilled out of Alaska's real estate and turned the money over to the taxpayers in the form of annual royalty checks.
Socialism!
Crusoe

Chicago, IL

#49 May 3, 2011
Jim wrote:
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Ummmm....My road looks like downtown Libya....Schools beg every year for more and more...I dont think what Minnesota is doing is working either!
Libya is a country rather than a city with a downtown. Product of a tax free education system?
tom

Hayfield, MN

#50 May 3, 2011
The Negotiator wrote:
<quoted text> Tom, get informed, their state is the only one to have a surplus.
Oh I know...I have delivered stuff all over ND. There schools are old and run down there roads are even worse then Minnesota. Yes low taxes are great,but just saying there is a price to pay for low taxes.
Crusoe

Chicago, IL

#51 May 3, 2011
No Longer In the Union wrote:
Wow, does ND have it together. I thought WI was going to blow by us as a better State to live in, but ND may now have to get a look. 4% unemployment, booming economy and no Mark Dayton. Sound pretty good to me.
And yet, it has vast empty spaces where no one wants to live. Most people who aren't hermits seem to be willing to pay taxes and live outside of ND.
tom

Hayfield, MN

#52 May 3, 2011
Crusoe wrote:
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And yet, it has vast empty spaces where no one wants to live. Most people who aren't hermits seem to be willing to pay taxes and live outside of ND.
Yes they have jobs and low taxes....If you want to mvoe back in time to the mid 1900,s and drive on mostly dirt roads and have services like they did 50 years ago,then ND is for you. If you want to be in the modern world then dont live in ND.
dermbuilder

River Falls, WI

#53 May 3, 2011
Could it be that North Dakota like Saudi Arabia is swimming in petro dollars? North Dakota has, if many people in the Upper Midwest don't realize it, HUGE energy resources. Also they have perhaps the highest ratio of rural to urban population in all the U.S. Not sure what exactly the implications of that are, but in any case, ND has a higher proportion of people in very small towns and on farms than other states like Minnesota.

“OVERGROWN FETUS”

Since: Oct 10

NON ABORTION

#54 May 4, 2011
Crusoe wrote:
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And yet, it has vast empty spaces where no one wants to live. Most people who aren't hermits seem to be willing to pay taxes and live outside of ND.
North Dakota is largely uninhabited because it is deadly cold and brutal in the winter and the summers are hot and nasty.

Just last week someone died in a blizzard. Leaving your house in the winter is dangerous as it is desolate country. It is very secluded and not people friendly.

A group of us go fishing and hunting there each year at Devil's Lake. My friend bought a cabin with land for a song. No one wants to stay and build a home. The state would probably give you 100 acres if you asked them. Most of the year most of N Dakota is uninhabitable.

“OVERGROWN FETUS”

Since: Oct 10

NON ABORTION

#55 May 4, 2011
dermbuilder wrote:
Could it be that North Dakota like Saudi Arabia is swimming in petro dollars? North Dakota has, if many people in the Upper Midwest don't realize it, HUGE energy resources. Also they have perhaps the highest ratio of rural to urban population in all the U.S. Not sure what exactly the implications of that are, but in any case, ND has a higher proportion of people in very small towns and on farms than other states like Minnesota.
You are right about the oil. They have enough oil to float the country. They say a millionaire has been made everyday for the last three months. That is why many think they can cut property taxes. The state is oil rich. I believe the local refineries, Ashland and Koch, receive their oil from N Dakota. My wife will only get gas at Marathon stations, it is her way to boycott OPEC.

“OVERGROWN FETUS”

Since: Oct 10

NON ABORTION

#56 May 4, 2011
Crusoe wrote:
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And yet, it has vast empty spaces where no one wants to live. Most people who aren't hermits seem to be willing to pay taxes and live outside of ND.
Check this out.

http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-ener...
Hard Rock Miner

Ely, MN

#57 May 4, 2011
Hugh Jackwagon wrote:
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North Dakota is largely uninhabited because it is deadly cold and brutal in the winter and the summers are hot and nasty.
Just last week someone died in a blizzard. Leaving your house in the winter is dangerous as it is desolate country. It is very secluded and not people friendly.
A group of us go fishing and hunting there each year at Devil's Lake. My friend bought a cabin with land for a song. No one wants to stay and build a home. The state would probably give you 100 acres if you asked them. Most of the year most of N Dakota is uninhabitable.
I would prefer desolation to the tens of thousands of welfare couch potatoes we have imported from: Illinois, Indiana and third world countries.
trolls

Hugo, MN

#58 May 4, 2011
Bob the Bilderberger wrote:
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That's due to the fact that they have two military bases (Grand Forks and Minot Air Force bases).
Minnesota has none because we're too good to host those war-mongering redneck military people.
You mean like the current president?
trolls

Hugo, MN

#59 May 4, 2011
tom wrote:
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Yes they have jobs and low taxes....If you want to mvoe back in time to the mid 1900,s and drive on mostly dirt roads and have services like they did 50 years ago,then ND is for you. If you want to be in the modern world then dont live in ND.
Sorry Tom, but this post made me laugh when I saw it came from someone living in AUSTIN!! You guys are about 10 years ahead of ND, congrats, have a Spam burger!
Crusoe

Chicago, IL

#60 May 4, 2011
Hard Rock Miner wrote:
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I would prefer desolation to the tens of thousands of welfare couch potatoes we have imported from: Illinois, Indiana and third world countries.
Well, good news for you - there is PLENTY of room. I wonder why?
Vikings Fan

Rochester, MN

#61 May 4, 2011
tom wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes they have jobs and low taxes....If you want to mvoe back in time to the mid 1900,s and drive on mostly dirt roads and have services like they did 50 years ago,then ND is for you. If you want to be in the modern world then dont live in ND.
Tom, I have a relative who owns a farm s.e. corner of North Dakota. They live 7 miles from a town with a population of 1500, decent school, asphalt road to and past their farm, and rural water has been installed through-out North Dakota. A couple of lakes nearby, good deer/pheasant hunting. Fargo has quite a few amenities, yet they are close to nice amenities of Minnesota. The biggest problem they have right now is finding people for the jobs availible, and housing for the people taking those jobs.

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