Measure to abolish North Dakota property taxes on ballot

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A proposed constitutional amendment to abolish property taxes in North Dakota has been approved for the ballot.
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gimme a break

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Turn roads, water, fire , police and medicine over to the private sector. Then only those that can afford it will have services. And those that can't can just move on. Good plan, works well in third world countries.
No Longer In the Union

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Wow, does ND have it together. I thought WI was going to blow by us as a better State to live in, but ND may now have to get a look. 4% unemployment, booming economy and no Mark Dayton. Sound pretty good to me.
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gimme a break wrote:
Turn roads, water, fire , police and medicine over to the private sector. Then only those that can afford it will have services. And those that can't can just move on. Good plan, works well in third world countries.
.........Name third world country that is not run by a dictator like Obama. Fool.
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Great idea as long as the oil and coal last and the affected business interests insist that the tax burden needs to be lifted from those industries. In any event, new taxes or "fee's" will be instituted to cover any shortfall. It will come out the left pocket or right.
centralmnusa

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Starve the beast and create a theocracy...God will provide.

Since: Jan 11

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Mike wrote:
Great idea as long as the oil and coal last and the affected business interests insist that the tax burden needs to be lifted from those industries. In any event, new taxes or "fee's" will be instituted to cover any shortfall. It will come out the left pocket or right.
Bt it also frees up money not confiscated by the govt pigs, lets business invest and grow and the citizen to spend or save more of their own money also growing the economy,
good luck to them. keep the govt welfare job pigs away.
Bob the Bilderberger

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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>they're getting more back from the federal gov't than they pay in. We have to pick up thier tab for them. that would be a welfare state.
That's due to the fact that they have two military bases (Grand Forks and Minot Air Force bases).

Minnesota has none because we're too good to host those war-mongering redneck military people.

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Wolverines wrote:
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Bt it also frees up money not confiscated by the govt pigs, lets business invest and grow and the citizen to spend or save more of their own money also growing the economy,
good luck to them. keep the govt welfare job pigs away.
Perhaps if they raised enough of their own taxes the Feds wouldn't have to give them back $1.67 for every dollar ND sends in?

AW, what the heck, we can pull them in the wagon a little bit longer, we've been doning for along time now.
Bob the Bilderberger

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No Longer In the Union wrote:
Wow, does ND have it together. I thought WI was going to blow by us as a better State to live in, but ND may now have to get a look. 4% unemployment, booming economy and no Mark Dayton. Sound pretty good to me.
ND needs to implement the Palin plan. She charged the oil companies a royalty for every barrel of oil they drilled out of Alaska's real estate and turned the money over to the taxpayers in the form of annual royalty checks.

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Bob the Bilderberger wrote:
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ND needs to implement the Palin plan. She charged the oil companies a royalty for every barrel of oil they drilled out of Alaska's real estate and turned the money over to the taxpayers in the form of annual royalty checks.
People were getting royalty checks in Alaska from oil long befoe Palin.
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This is going to entertaining to watch. What happens when the Legislature DOESN'T come up with replacement funds? The same people whining about property taxes are going to whine just as loud if income and sales taxes go up to cover it and they'll threaten to vote anyone out of office who is in favor of the increases. All police and fire departments are going to stop being paid, schools will close, road and highway work will stop.

It's going to be fun watching the implosion.
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Alaska is like ND, they are federal welfare sponges. AK residence have been paid oil revenues long before the 1/2 term Gov. ever showed up. Still not a bunch of welfare users heading to AK to get the free money. The same will be true of ND. Says more about what the states don't have.
LOVE IT

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I LOVE NORTH DAKOTA!!!!
Reality

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Hugh Jackwagon wrote:
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The ratio of people on welfare is higher in Minnesota than that of North Dakota.
We are the ones with a 5 billion dollar deficit. We are the major destination for welfare seekers from not only the USA but the world.
What was meant by ND being a welfare state is that they get more money from the federal government that they pay in.

A large part of ND and SD's "success" is getting other state to help foot the bill.

If MN got $1.25 for every $1.00 sent to the federal government MN would not have as huge as a deficit.
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Bob the Bilderberger wrote:
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ND needs to implement the Palin plan. She charged the oil companies a royalty for every barrel of oil they drilled out of Alaska's real estate and turned the money over to the taxpayers in the form of annual royalty checks.
That is not the Palin plan. Two minutes of research will show that that policy was put in place when the Alaska pipeline was built.

While charging the oil companies a royalties is a good idea giving Palin credit is at best intellectually dishonest...but more likely a bold faced lie.
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Reality wrote:
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What was meant by ND being a welfare state is that they get more money from the federal government that they pay in.
A large part of ND and SD's "success" is getting other state to help foot the bill.
If MN got $1.25 for every $1.00 sent to the federal government MN would not have as huge as a deficit.
Do you have a source for this? I'd honestly be interested in reading it.

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Back in the late '70's, California voters put 'Proposition 13' on the ballot, never dreaming that the future consequences would be so devastating. The properties were valued at their 1975 rate, and the property taxes could not exceed 1% of the total cash value of the property. In addition, the assessed value could not go up more than 2% per year. There were only two ways to reassess the base value of the property. A change in ownership, or completion of a new construction. City and county services that counted on property taxes could no longer raise property tax rates to pay for a new fire truck without getting a two-thirds majority vote for a special tax. One of the reasons California is in such dire financial difficulty is because they have amended their constitution to prohibit revenue collection (they also need a two-thirds majority vote in both the state legislative houses to raise the state tax rates, including income tax rates).

I think North Dakota should back away for putting this in their constitution. It's too difficult to fix a constitutional amendment.
No T for me

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When you have oil revenues, lots of open land, and a shrinking population, it's time to offer incentives to get people to live in your state. That's what this is, it's not a model for everywhere in the US.
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Evangilizer wrote:
What a great way to eliminate education..........
I'm sure they have more than enough for education. Typical liberal way of thinking. We need more taxes to fund the unions which in turn fund the democratic politicians. A giant circle of corruption if you ask me.
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Most states around us look a lot more inviting. The democrats have destroyed this state with all their silly ideas and it's time we take it back before it's too late. Detroit is a great example of a city that might never recover because the unions and democrats destroyed it.

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