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Neighborhoods polluted by dangerous wood smoke

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clean air

Caldwell, ID

#1 Dec 26, 2012
We have a neighbor who loves smoke. In the summer the neighbors have to put up with the smoke coming from the grill as well as the smell of fatty meats. In the winter, it gets much worse because the neighbor is polluting the air with toxic wood burning smoke. This is not clean burning, if there is such a thing. This is dirty toxic wood or cardboard or whatever else he is burning. You can see the white smoke billowing out of his chimney. The other night and all of today my eyes have been burning. Please burn wood responsibly or better yet, not burn wood or any other garbage at all. If this neighbor cared about the environment he would know that he is not being green by wood burning. He can well afford the energy bill. In the meantime, he is endangering everyone in the surrounding area and beyond with his toxic smoke. Cochise County has no laws against wood burning as it is not a containment area--whatever that is. I understand people are on a budget and maybe can't afford energy/heating but there are programs to help the financially challenged. I am going to look into the Health Department and see what can be done. I have also found case law where neighbors have sued for nuisance and for trespassing (the smoke on other property). Is anyone else concerned about this as a health issue? Unfortunately, people are not always considerate of others. In Old Bisbee especially where homes are on top of each other there should be some type of law to stop this air pollution. If interested please read: http://news.yahoo.com/wood-stoves-just-many-c...

What is interesting is how Cochise County puts out guidelines, admits to the dangers of wood smoke yet does nothing to control it.

Since: Sep 09

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#2 Dec 26, 2012
clean air wrote:
We have a neighbor who loves smoke. In the summer the neighbors have to put up with the smoke coming from the grill as well as the smell of fatty meats. In the winter, it gets much worse because the neighbor is polluting the air with toxic wood burning smoke. This is not clean burning, if there is such a thing. This is dirty toxic wood or cardboard or whatever else he is burning. You can see the white smoke billowing out of his chimney. The other night and all of today my eyes have been burning. Please burn wood responsibly or better yet, not burn wood or any other garbage at all. If this neighbor cared about the environment he would know that he is not being green by wood burning. He can well afford the energy bill. In the meantime, he is endangering everyone in the surrounding area and beyond with his toxic smoke. Cochise County has no laws against wood burning as it is not a containment area--whatever that is. I understand people are on a budget and maybe can't afford energy/heating but there are programs to help the financially challenged. I am going to look into the Health Department and see what can be done. I have also found case law where neighbors have sued for nuisance and for trespassing (the smoke on other property). Is anyone else concerned about this as a health issue? Unfortunately, people are not always considerate of others. In Old Bisbee especially where homes are on top of each other there should be some type of law to stop this air pollution. If interested please read: http://news.yahoo.com/wood-stoves-just-many-c...

What is interesting is how Cochise County puts out guidelines, admits to the dangers of wood smoke yet does nothing to control it.
^WTFO!
Holy Smokes

Prescott, AZ

#3 Dec 26, 2012
clean air wrote:
We have a neighbor who loves smoke. In the summer the neighbors have to put up with the smoke coming from the grill as well as the smell of fatty meats. In the winter, it gets much worse because the neighbor is polluting the air with toxic wood burning smoke. This is not clean burning, if there is such a thing. This is dirty toxic wood or cardboard or whatever else he is burning. You can see the white smoke billowing out of his chimney. The other night and all of today my eyes have been burning. Please burn wood responsibly or better yet, not burn wood or any other garbage at all. If this neighbor cared about the environment he would know that he is not being green by wood burning. He can well afford the energy bill. In the meantime, he is endangering everyone in the surrounding area and beyond with his toxic smoke. Cochise County has no laws against wood burning as it is not a containment area--whatever that is. I understand people are on a budget and maybe can't afford energy/heating but there are programs to help the financially challenged. I am going to look into the Health Department and see what can be done. I have also found case law where neighbors have sued for nuisance and for trespassing (the smoke on other property). Is anyone else concerned about this as a health issue? Unfortunately, people are not always considerate of others. In Old Bisbee especially where homes are on top of each other there should be some type of law to stop this air pollution. If interested please read: http://news.yahoo.com/wood-stoves-just-many-c...
What is interesting is how Cochise County puts out guidelines, admits to the dangers of wood smoke yet does nothing to control it.
No doubt about it, you are a whining b!tch.

“Geekhood Is Greatness”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#4 Dec 26, 2012
clean air wrote:
....In Old Bisbee especially where homes are on top of each other there should be some type of law to stop this air pollution...
Such pollution is a problem when you choose to live above neighbors' chimneys.
Take a deep breath

Sierra Vista, AZ

#5 Dec 27, 2012
Oh, how I miss the smell of incinerated scraps of wood and residual milling's from the logging towns of Oregon - burning huge amounts daily from their 'Tee-Pee' wood burners with billowing clouds of smoke encompassing the Willamette valley. That smell of wood smoke in the morning brought tears to my eyes, as did the smell of napalm and cordite in the AM in Nam. Oh, such memories of bygone days....

You candy a$$es would complain if you were hanged with a new rope.....
Choking on smoke

Tucson, AZ

#6 Dec 27, 2012
I was just thinking about this today. Have a neighbor that only burns wood and without a properly set up chimney the smoke never rises far above the ground. All of Bisbee might be getting polluted air from Naco.
When I lived in Nogales because of all the burning for heat from Sonora, Nogales was the most polluted place in Arizona during winter.
hack

Tucson, AZ

#7 Dec 27, 2012
Not to mention the burnt coffee bean stench that drifts down Main Street but what's wrong with smoke from fatty meats? It makes me drool just thinking about.
clean air

Caldwell, ID

#8 Dec 27, 2012
GulchGeek wrote:
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Such pollution is a problem when you choose to live above neighbors' chimneys.
The chimney was not there when I moved in. I know you like to assume a lot. And, I also know that I would be condemned for wanting and feeling I have a right to breathe free clean air. You can all go screw yourselves.
whipping post

United States

#9 Dec 27, 2012
JoBoo wrote:
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^WTFO!
I guess "clean air" is not the suffering in silent type like you.
Gasper

Tucson, AZ

#10 Dec 27, 2012
My neighbor eats fatty meat and then proceeds to emit a loud and noxious stream of gas which blows straight into my bedroom window. When will the Bisbee government pass a law against passing gas?

“Geekhood Is Greatness”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#11 Dec 27, 2012
clean air wrote:
<quoted text>
The chimney was not there when I moved in. I know you like to assume a lot. And, I also know that I would be condemned for wanting and feeling I have a right to breathe free clean air. You can all go screw yourselves.
Am I correct in assuming that you live in old Bisbee?

My point was that people 'discover' some quaint little town with houses nestled in a canyon and decide this is where they will attain the idyllic life they've been unable to find elsewhere. Never mind the less-than-idyllic realities of living in any such town: full steam ahead, and bring lawyers, courts, government enforcement agencies, etc. down on those neighbors who's presence and lifestyles bump into and bruise some corners of your personal concepts of 'ideal.'

After all, if they're going to barbecue, the least they could do is become vegetarians, like you. Would that temper your self-centered complaining?

I think the reason you've been unable to get the County to budge on this is that they exercise better common sense than you.

“Geekhood Is Greatness”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#12 Dec 27, 2012
Gasper wrote:
My neighbor eats fatty meat and then proceeds to emit a loud and noxious stream of gas which blows straight into my bedroom window. When will the Bisbee government pass a law against passing gas?
The day the Bisbee city government passes a law against passing gas is the day they pass a law against City Council meetings.

As far as your neighbor: depending on the decibel level of his farts, you may be able to hang him on a noise control violation.

Since: Sep 09

Location hidden

#13 Dec 27, 2012
whipping post wrote:
<quoted text>I guess "clean air" is not the suffering in silent type like you.
I don't suffer in silence, I just can't believe the post. Really what's next? "The person living next to me uses electricity to light there house! I can't stand the glare it puts off at night! And putting my house at risk, what if there is a short circuit and the whole canyon goes up?!"
BBQ

Phoenix, AZ

#14 Dec 27, 2012
That person complaining is lucky they don't live next door to me. I smoke my fatty meat with mesquite. Sounds perverse I know.
kopa pakalolo

Hauula, HI

#15 Dec 27, 2012
We eat wild pigs on the island. You know they grow all over the place so you just shoot and eat. Skinny pig is sick pig you dont eat. Fat pig you put in imu and eat. Or make smoke saucage and eat. More better than store pig. nothig more better then fat wild pigs to eat. nobody here mind the smoke. To bad no fat wild pigs in desert. You dont have much wood to smok them with?
BBQ

Phoenix, AZ

#16 Dec 27, 2012
kopa pakalolo wrote:
We eat wild pigs on the island. You know they grow all over the place so you just shoot and eat. Skinny pig is sick pig you dont eat. Fat pig you put in imu and eat. Or make smoke saucage and eat. More better than store pig. nothig more better then fat wild pigs to eat. nobody here mind the smoke. To bad no fat wild pigs in desert. You dont have much wood to smok them with?
Ignorant island person, mesquite grows here faster than rumors and burns well. Well enough to annoy stinking Scottsdale immigrants into getting the hell out.
onceuponatime

Moss Point, MS

#17 Dec 27, 2012
clean air wrote:
We have a neighbor who loves smoke. In the summer the neighbors have to put up with the smoke coming from the grill as well as the smell of fatty meats. In the winter, it gets much worse because the neighbor is polluting the air with toxic wood burning smoke. This is not clean burning, if there is such a thing. This is dirty toxic wood or cardboard or whatever else he is burning. You can see the white smoke billowing out of his chimney. The other night and all of today my eyes have been burning. Please burn wood responsibly or better yet, not burn wood or any other garbage at all. If this neighbor cared about the environment he would know that he is not being green by wood burning. He can well afford the energy bill. In the meantime, he is endangering everyone in the surrounding area and beyond with his toxic smoke. Cochise County has no laws against wood burning as it is not a containment area--whatever that is. I understand people are on a budget and maybe can't afford energy/heating but there are programs to help the financially challenged. I am going to look into the Health Department and see what can be done. I have also found case law where neighbors have sued for nuisance and for trespassing (the smoke on other property). Is anyone else concerned about this as a health issue? Unfortunately, people are not always considerate of others. In Old Bisbee especially where homes are on top of each other there should be some type of law to stop this air pollution. If interested please read: http://news.yahoo.com/wood-stoves-just-many-c...
What is interesting is how Cochise County puts out guidelines, admits to the dangers of wood smoke yet does nothing to control it.

In all fairness to you and your neighbors you should consider moving to a location where all of the existing inhabitants feel and practice life as you do.

“Geekhood Is Greatness”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#18 Dec 27, 2012
'Clean air,' you might consider buying a big chunk of land where neighbors would be no problem. There are basement bargains in the gaslands, where fracking is producing that environmentally-conscious 'green' energy you suggest your neighbors use here. Check out the energy-efficient places where, for heat, one simply opens the kitchen faucet and lights. Then, knock yourself out, exercising your "right to breathe free clean air."
Choking on smoke

Tucson, AZ

#19 Dec 28, 2012
BBQ wrote:
That person complaining is lucky they don't live next door to me. I smoke my fatty meat with mesquite. Sounds perverse I know.
Many people have allergic reactions to mesquite trees in the spring. Those same allergens can also be present when you burn the wood. Many people are allergic to mesquite smoke. I suspect my problem is my neighbor burns it. I normally don't have allergies.
Mulberry is not a good wood to burn either for health reasons.
It's not a perfect world.
BBQ

Bisbee, AZ

#20 Dec 28, 2012
In all fairness, I do admit that people who burn garbage such as cardboard in their stoves are a menace. That stuff can really stink bad and coffee beans roasting stinks things up real good. OB is just that way. You have to live with a lot of noise, stench and lack of parking. The outlying areas are considerably better.

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