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Man Killed After Stabbing at Birmingham Nightclub

There are 13 comments on the ABC 33/40 story from Aug 30, 2009, titled Man Killed After Stabbing at Birmingham Nightclub. In it, ABC 33/40 reports that:

A 21-year-old Birmingham man was stabbed to death early Sunday morning during a fight at Club Zen in the city's downtown.

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a dial

Prattville, AL

#1 Aug 31, 2009
Posted by wadial on 08/31/09 at 11:52PM
I was there when it happened, I was taking a picture of me and a buddy and then all of a sudden everyone was scuffling around like a fight was happening -( 2:38a.m.)- so I turned around to see what was going on. I was standing in between the bathrooms and bar area and I saw Kevin laying on his back with his hands holding his stomach and side. I had not yet know what had happened, my thoughts were he was just hurt from being in a fist fight. when everyone started to back up around him I began to see more blood and realized it was more serious than a fist fight. One of the guys I had come with was a EMT and he began to try and help but the bouncers held him back while nobody else was trying to help. About a min later they let him try to help Kevin, keep in mind no one else was trying to do anything. The police were there keeping everybody back, but no one was doing anything except him. A few mins had past and they started getting everyone out of Zen, I went and stood outside waiting on my friend, the firefighters showed up first which seemed like it took forever. One female got out of the truck and was just lezley walking, when she pasted me I said, a guy is dieing in there and you are just walking???? Anyways what I am getting at is this, In the scuffling around I had accidently taking a picture of him when it had just happened. The picture is of Kevin on the ground, and the exact time of that moment was 2:41a.m. I know this because when I take a picture it digital stamps the exact time of the picture. Just secs after it had happened, the report said the call or stabbing was at 2:55a.m. WRONG!!!! The picture was taking with my phone which has a satellite configured clock, which means the clock sets itself according to the world time which is the correct time all the time. So with that said the time had to be before 2:41a.m. I believe something more could have been done, Kevin could have been at UAB in mere mins if someone would have let them take him straight there. 3:10a.m. is his time of death, Im curious the time he arrived at UAB only two or three mins away. Do the math, Kevins life was taken from him due the the lack of seriousness of the situation. My condolences to Kevins family and I am going to keep the picture of him if anyone seeks to press charges against the club ZEN or whoever.
Clean our city up

Pinson, AL

#2 Sep 1, 2009
a dial wrote:
Posted by wadial on 08/31/09 at 11:52PM
I was there when it happened, I was taking a picture of me and a buddy and then all of a sudden everyone was scuffling around like a fight was happening -( 2:38a.m.)- so I turned around to see what was going on. I was standing in between the bathrooms and bar area and I saw Kevin laying on his back with his hands holding his stomach and side. I had not yet know what had happened, my thoughts were he was just hurt from being in a fist fight. when everyone started to back up around him I began to see more blood and realized it was more serious than a fist fight. One of the guys I had come with was a EMT and he began to try and help but the bouncers held him back while nobody else was trying to help. About a min later they let him try to help Kevin, keep in mind no one else was trying to do anything. The police were there keeping everybody back, but no one was doing anything except him. A few mins had past and they started getting everyone out of Zen, I went and stood outside waiting on my friend, the firefighters showed up first which seemed like it took forever. One female got out of the truck and was just lezley walking, when she pasted me I said, a guy is dieing in there and you are just walking???? Anyways what I am getting at is this, In the scuffling around I had accidently taking a picture of him when it had just happened. The picture is of Kevin on the ground, and the exact time of that moment was 2:41a.m. I know this because when I take a picture it digital stamps the exact time of the picture. Just secs after it had happened, the report said the call or stabbing was at 2:55a.m. WRONG!!!! The picture was taking with my phone which has a satellite configured clock, which means the clock sets itself according to the world time which is the correct time all the time. So with that said the time had to be before 2:41a.m. I believe something more could have been done, Kevin could have been at UAB in mere mins if someone would have let them take him straight there. 3:10a.m. is his time of death, Im curious the time he arrived at UAB only two or three mins away. Do the math, Kevins life was taken from him due the the lack of seriousness of the situation. My condolences to Kevins family and I am going to keep the picture of him if anyone seeks to press charges against the club ZEN or whoever.
I would like to encourage you to bring this information to Kevin's family as well as A C Roper (Birmingham's police chief) his life may have been saved with quicker action, Birmingham is no place for anyone to frequent day time or night time, Bob Riley needs to step in and clean this place out of all leaders and get some qualified and educated people in here, we should rename this City CROOKHAM
HELLO THERE

Covington, LA

#3 Sep 2, 2009
Your Boy "the victim was a herion dealer. OK. I know everyone is saying oh Kelvin was so good and all this but I knew HIM very well and did not know the one who stabbed him. Kelvin was not a the good one at all. If he was why was he fighting with some one. I am sorry of his death becasue no one should die like he did. However there are 2 sides to every story and he was not an angel like all of you are saying. I have seen him in Typsy T's selling. He is responsible for alot of bad himself but no one will admit that. I am sorry for his family because there are greiving for the lost of a family member but don't throw the other dude under the bus because he took up for himself....It was self defense. kelvin was on top of him while 2 of his buds were kicking him in the head. So it was his life or one of them....
tracist

United States

#4 Sep 3, 2009
I am very interested in what you have said... I have not heard any of this about Kevin. I know that no one deserves to be stabbed or shot nor does ZEN deserve to pay for this action! I know the owners of this club... they run the best club in Birmingham- in my opinion! There are plenty of cops there! Not sure what everyone thinks they should change... and not only that but the last "killing" was at this same location BUT it was called the Station, it was under different management (another friend of ours) and it happened in the parking lot! Please someone tell me how many restaurants we all eat at where someone has been killed at? Many more than you think! If we are shutting them down bc of this... lets go shut every business down that this happens at... bet everyone would get tired of no where to go bc everything would be closed! There is no reason to shut them down for this! If anyone wants to help us help the owners with anything you know about this, please reply and let me know! THANKS!
HELLO THERE wrote:
Your Boy "the victim was a herion dealer. OK. I know everyone is saying oh Kelvin was so good and all this but I knew HIM very well and did not know the one who stabbed him. Kelvin was not a the good one at all. If he was why was he fighting with some one. I am sorry of his death becasue no one should die like he did. However there are 2 sides to every story and he was not an angel like all of you are saying. I have seen him in Typsy T's selling. He is responsible for alot of bad himself but no one will admit that. I am sorry for his family because there are greiving for the lost of a family member but don't throw the other dude under the bus because he took up for himself....It was self defense. kelvin was on top of him while 2 of his buds were kicking him in the head. So it was his life or one of them....
HELLO THERE

Covington, LA

#5 Sep 4, 2009
tracist wrote:
I am very interested in what you have said... I have not heard any of this about Kevin. I know that no one deserves to be stabbed or shot nor does ZEN deserve to pay for this action! I know the owners of this club... they run the best club in Birmingham- in my opinion! There are plenty of cops there! Not sure what everyone thinks they should change... and not only that but the last "killing" was at this same location BUT it was called the Station, it was under different management (another friend of ours) and it happened in the parking lot! Please someone tell me how many restaurants we all eat at where someone has been killed at? Many more than you think! If we are shutting them down bc of this... lets go shut every business down that this happens at... bet everyone would get tired of no where to go bc everything would be closed! There is no reason to shut them down for this! If anyone wants to help us help the owners with anything you know about this, please reply and let me know! THANKS!
<quoted text>
I agree it is not the place of business. it is the people who think they are able to act the way they do and go into thses places. it is the people not the place.
annonymous

Lisle, IL

#6 Sep 4, 2009
If you knew HIM very well, how come you keep referring to him as Kelvin when his name is Kevin. And for the first comment, the times that are given to the public are just estimates. They aren't always the EXACT times that events occur, obviously. As the bouncers job, they are to keep everyone back because if they let just anyone get to someone with severe wounds, they could either make the situation worse or could have been friends with the person that Kevin was in an altercation with. With that said, no one should have to lose their life in such a terrible way, and everyone should keep his family in their prayers because whatever already happened cannot be changed.
scott

London, UK

#7 Sep 5, 2009
a dial wrote:
Posted by wadial on 08/31/09 at 11:52PM
I was there when it happened, I was taking a picture of me and a buddy and then all of a sudden everyone was scuffling around like a fight was happening -( 2:38a.m.)- so I turned around to see what was going on. I was standing in between the bathrooms and bar area and I saw Kevin laying on his back with his hands holding his stomach and side. I had not yet know what had happened, my thoughts were he was just hurt from being in a fist fight. when everyone started to back up around him I began to see more blood and realized it was more serious than a fist fight. One of the guys I had come with was a EMT and he began to try and help but the bouncers held him back while nobody else was trying to help. About a min later they let him try to help Kevin, keep in mind no one else was trying to do anything. The police were there keeping everybody back, but no one was doing anything except him. A few mins had past and they started getting everyone out of Zen, I went and stood outside waiting on my friend, the firefighters showed up first which seemed like it took forever. One female got out of the truck and was just lezley walking, when she pasted me I said, a guy is dieing in there and you are just walking???? Anyways what I am getting at is this, In the scuffling around I had accidently taking a picture of him when it had just happened. The picture is of Kevin on the ground, and the exact time of that moment was 2:41a.m. I know this because when I take a picture it digital stamps the exact time of the picture. Just secs after it had happened, the report said the call or stabbing was at 2:55a.m. WRONG!!!! The picture was taking with my phone which has a satellite configured clock, which means the clock sets itself according to the world time which is the correct time all the time. So with that said the time had to be before 2:41a.m. I believe something more could have been done, Kevin could have been at UAB in mere mins if someone would have let them take him straight there. 3:10a.m. is his time of death, Im curious the time he arrived at UAB only two or three mins away. Do the math, Kevins life was taken from him due the the lack of seriousness of the situation. My condolences to Kevins family and I am going to keep the picture of him if anyone seeks to press charges against the club ZEN or whoever.
so you took pics? any chance of seeing them? I'm a journalist at the Daily Star Sunday - maybe I could do a story with pics highlighting the senseless losses caused by knife crime. [email protected] nice one
HELLO THERE

Covington, LA

#8 Sep 8, 2009
HELLO THERE wrote:
<quoted text>I agree it is not the place of business. it is the people who think they are able to act the way they do and go into thses places. it is the people not the place.
No his name is Kelvin. You should check your sources.
anonymous

Birmingham, AL

#9 Sep 11, 2009
HELLO THERE wrote:
Your Boy "the victim was a herion dealer. OK. I know everyone is saying oh Kelvin was so good and all this but I knew HIM very well and did not know the one who stabbed him. Kelvin was not a the good one at all. If he was why was he fighting with some one. I am sorry of his death becasue no one should die like he did. However there are 2 sides to every story and he was not an angel like all of you are saying. I have seen him in Typsy T's selling. He is responsible for alot of bad himself but no one will admit that. I am sorry for his family because there are greiving for the lost of a family member but don't throw the other dude under the bus because he took up for himself....It was self defense. kelvin was on top of him while 2 of his buds were kicking him in the head. So it was his life or one of them....
Im glad you knew him, because the reason for the stabbing was due to a death of the man who did the stabbings really close friend, who had bought some herion from kelvin...and it killed him because it had something wrong with it..i know its not justified on either end, but this is my two cents, i know the man who did the murder, and he is very well known all over southside and clubs, he knows club owners, and workers..and i seriously doubt he would of been searched if they DID search everyone before entering the club, due to the fact that he was known.
annonymous

United States

#10 Sep 13, 2009
I have known Harold " The vicious wretched terrible" person. MURDERER that the media has made him look like for years and years. Harold is NONE of these things that the media has made him out to be. He is a very reputable artist performing under the name Kncktrnl, a well known MC along the Eastern states, and beyond. He is an extremely kind, gentle man who would give ANY person the shirt off of his back. To all of you that are on this message board, you should know that Harold is not the type of man to viciously slay some random person on a whim. The only reason that he would have retaliated the way that he did would be for self defense reasons. There is always more than one side to every story, and the media has taken this one and ran way too far with it. The truth always comes out. Harold has carried a knife with him ( rightfully so) for all of the years that he has performed/worked in the clubs downtown. You never know what kind of crazy you are going to come across downtown in a large city, and a knife was his source of protection. H I urge all of you to be open to discovering the truth about this unfortunate event, and refrain from spreading any rumors about either of the two men unfortunately involved in this event. In the mean time we should all take the time to say a prayer for both families.
ana

Pearl River, LA

#11 Sep 26, 2009
HELLO THERE wrote:
Your Boy "the victim was a herion dealer. OK. I know everyone is saying oh Kelvin was so good and all this but I knew HIM very well and did not know the one who stabbed him. Kelvin was not a the good one at all. If he was why was he fighting with some one. I am sorry of his death becasue no one should die like he did. However there are 2 sides to every story and he was not an angel like all of you are saying. I have seen him in Typsy T's selling. He is responsible for alot of bad himself but no one will admit that. I am sorry for his family because there are greiving for the lost of a family member but don't throw the other dude under the bus because he took up for himself....It was self defense. kelvin was on top of him while 2 of his buds were kicking him in the head. So it was his life or one of them....
I am so glad someone came out with the truth!!.. He was defending himself.. that dude got what he deserved.. glad he never had a chance to go into the military.. piece of s*&t heroin dealer..
chris jerrico

UK

#12 Nov 14, 2009
that person he is so mental that stabbed kevin we feel sorry for kevin
Please

United States

#13 Nov 18, 2009
Clean our city up wrote:
<quoted text>
I would like to encourage you to bring this information to Kevin's family as well as A C Roper (Birmingham's police chief) his life may have been saved with quicker action, Birmingham is no place for anyone to frequent day time or night time, Bob Riley needs to step in and clean this place out of all leaders and get some qualified and educated people in here, we should rename this City CROOKHAM
You impress me with your ability to tell a story. I considered everything that you wrote and concluded that you are suffering from post drmatic stress disorder. Please seek help.

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