Sexist Laws Against Men In America

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Jan 11, 2013
 
another thing is women get to make the choice if they brutally kill the baby in an abortion the fathers have NO say. I know it's the women's bodies and all but it's the father's CHILD.
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#66
Mar 7, 2013
 
The way you are talking is as if every woman you meet is a damn evil fem-nazi (yes, femnazi, that's what we call those who call themselves feminists but don't adhere to actual equality for all).
I am a feminist. No, don't turn off and condemn me for not wanting to take responsibility, because that couldn't be further from the truth.

I disagree with the draft. I think it is an outdated concept, especially considering that only men are required to sign up for it.
I also think the wage gap is attrocias, especially since there are public sector cuts which mostly hit the traditionally "female" jobs, meaning more women are being forced into even lower paid private sector jobs where the wage gap is even bigger. I could potentially be paid 10,000 less annually than my male counterparts for the same work at last count.

"women are helpless and sort of pathetic. theyre designed to be under us. yeah some are smart driven talented even athletic. but not at the rate we are. we shouldnt just hand them equality. and we need to stop letting ourselves be owned by them"

And this comment right here has validated the existance of feminism, if it needed further validation. I am definately not helpless or pathetic, I am perfectly capable of standing up for myself.

Not what at the rate you are? Intelligence, drive and talent are not decided by having a Y chromosome. Athletiecism, granted, in general men are built to be more muscular than women which does open the field for sport to them. But that is as far as that goes.

Why should we not be handed equality? Why should we be paid less for the same work? Or be discriminated against in careers because of the chance of possibly taking maternity leave? Or, even worse because of doubts in our ability based purely (i.e when there is no evidence of a lack of ability) on our sex? Or be marginalised by government cuts in the public sector.

Stop letting yourselves be owned by us? The same way that women used to be traded as pieces of property? How a woman could own nothing in her own right if she were married? How she was considered the property of her husband? Why should we not be afforded the same status, rights and responsibilities (yes, responsibilities as well) as men?

If you want to be a "real man" grow up and accept that women are not out to get you. We are out for social freedom (i.e that damned 'lock and key' analogy that suggest because you have a penis you are entitled to as much sex as you want. But women with vaginas must sit tight and wait for a husband), equal pay and equal career oppertunities.

Well I seem to have said my piece. Have fun picking it apart, if you feel so inclined.
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#67
Mar 7, 2013
 
Chart wrote:
another thing is women get to make the choice if they brutally kill the baby in an abortion the fathers have NO say. I know it's the women's bodies and all but it's the father's CHILD.
Not all women insist on making the choice alone. I made the decicision jointly with my partner that if our method of contraception were to fail and I were to get pregnant we would keep the child if we were financially and emotionally able. Don't forget, men can up and run at any point in that 9 months if they choose to. Once we've made the decision we're stuck with it.

However important it is for the father to have a voice in the decision I believe (and this is just my opinion) the final choice is up to the mother considering all the stress and physical pain she will be experiancing through pregnancy.

Your statement goes two ways. My dad bullied my mum into having an abortion when they were still together. My mum was later diagnosed with depression and put on anti-depressants. She still hasn't come to terms with it now, 13 years later.
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Mar 7, 2013
 
too true wrote:
True, I would like to add ever more sexist things against males in the US. that women are given 100% body and 50% mind rights to our kids. then after that is done they can turn to the government to ask them to ( as I say give them a CC to buy themselves things and have the father pay there debt ) make the man pay the county back for her failure to support the kid or kids they made together. as she gets food money, cash money, grants for cars, schooling and ect. the man is put in debt right off, now needs to loss 65% of the fathers income before taxes, can't see his kid or kids without fighting the courts and her on it, they take all licenses from him to boot, he can not get grants or schooling to pay of her debt the county made , and times change the fathers with crimes for being unable to pay on time. I can add tons more f'ed up laws on this 100% AGAINST fathers too. Just to add, ask yourself this. Will it make more since to help the fathers out with grants, cars, and skills to pay off the cost that ONLY MEN have to pay. men by more cost like not being able to see the kid they paying out there ass and with blood for, harder to get jobs because women with kids get them first ( also because they get the free schooling and help with transportation there in most cases)plus now the father has no license, car, not enough schooling ,his own rent and bills that need to be paid ect ect ect ect ect. the females not support in how to care for the kid and raising the kid, the fathers in the support in schooling , getting to a job and other things that will help him pay for the kid/kids bills not take the things the father needs away from him to go what the law requires. ok-ok, to make more clear sense, father is 100% payer, mother not. help the fathers working and having to pay for everything. not the lazy I do not have to because the law said mothers. this country is going in massive debt because if this EPIC FAIL and sexist laws against men. For F' sake just look at the suicide rates for male in this country. that what happens when you tell men " we are going to take everything from you, BUT you need to still pay for everything even if its not your bill " Can't people is this FAIL that started in the 80's ((to put a date on it(can say the other word because that means a bloody mess now) from start)) man spent 400,000 years making the world and understanding it. women wanted to be put right there in a day. ok-ok, I give them this. I can train a monkey to drive,( great they can do it) but I will NEVER give them a license. there just way more to it then that. so now everything is F'ed and until the women that are not lazy and used all the free father and tax payers money stand and start making laws AGAINST women that F'ed father, kids and tax payers out of that money. Its a living HELL for us men. BTW I live in most likely the most sexist state in the US. its just so F'ed up that a man can doing everything the law tells them to do and more and still have nothing. When the women can get everything for free to catch up and say/do anything they want it seems. with NO CONIQUENCES from it. and treat men like shit for everything we have done and are doing. BOTTOM LINE, MEN PAY THE FINCAL, LEGAL, EMOSTHIONAL, HISTORICAL AND SEXIST COST WOMEN DON'T HAVE TOO THESE DAYS. Our laws in the US or more communistic then even china the only country that still is. W.T.F!!!!!!!!!! AMERICA IS ONE MASSIVE EPIC FAIL!!!!!!!!!! maybe in 100-200 years if its still here might understand but how the hell does that help MALES still alive today or till then. If the father rights and the suicide rate stay the same for the next 40 years there might not be anymore males in the US to care. ok, I'm DONE!:p
I'm fron the UK so this may not be relevant, but fathers have equal rights and can take charge of their children either wholly or with joint custody (what my father has over men and my siste) and claim benefits and child support.
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Mar 7, 2013
 
Beautiful Bombshell wrote:
<quoted text>Sounds like you have been there boy. I bet your cute. Beating a woman when they don't deserve it is down right wrong.
So it's only wrong if they don't deserve it?
What's your stance on beating men? Could beat my partner if he deserved it?

No one, male or female, should be subject to domestic abuse.
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Mar 7, 2013
 
behonest wrote:
I cannot believe all the sexist remarks from both males and females. I am astounded by the statements "women always" "men always" "they always"
thenotoriousj, why fight sexism with sexism?
Men and women alike are victimized everyday. we need to fight the hate that consumes our society instead of putting blame on gender. I consider myself a feminist, in that I want to be treated like a person, not a female. I am for the empowerment of the individual no matter the sex, race, religion, etc. I do want equal rights. That does not mean I think women are better than men. It means I want the same opportunities.
I can't change my sex. nor do i want to, and i'm not going to use my body to get sympathy or to get ahead in any way. i just want to be treated like a person and not a baby maker or house cleaner. I am a woman with integrity and a love for human life.
As for the comment about men inventing most everything, it is true, but you must understand that women really did not have the education, resources, or support than men had. And even though it was hard, there were women that did great things for this world and many of them were never given credit for their accomplishments.
It is so refreshing to be on the internet of all places and read an intelligent, well thought out comment like this.

To all of you who are not endowed with the same desire for equality,
When you have something like this in front of you, why are you still making the generalisations and pointing the finger? Does it matter who does what anymore? Stop fighting and embrace it, you might find you like the results of a society where the only differences between men and women are physical.
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Jun 7, 2013
 
Draft Females First wrote:
Draft only females until an equal number have been compelled to serve in combat. Notice that feminists (or should I say femalists) ignore discrimination when they benefit.
This is the most idiotic thing I've ever heard. THIS is why you're pissed at women and feel discriminated against?? Because of military service and jobs?? Gah....idiot.
What you failed to realize is that a MAJORITY of the system that exists was set up by MEN, by YOU and YOUR kind. Not us. From our angle many of US have felt kept OUT of these places and positions when yea ok maybe some women wanted to contribute but couldn't. So what the hell is your problem understanding that? You act like women did that, that we kept ourselves from job opportunities and service when in fact, we simply weren't allowed for the most part. I hate war and everything about it, wish it didn't exist and think it's stupid to go fight strangers but if women want to do it then so be it. And after YEARS of fighting to be able to, many are. And guess what????? Many of them are raped constantly by their OWN comrades in arms. Duh duh duh!!!! This is how you show appreciation for joining rank with you?? By raping us?
You must be ignorant of American history and the reality that women haven't had a lot of access to a lot of things that people like you are now complaining about. Jeezz....I can't believe how stupid this rant was and SO obvious!
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#72
Jun 21, 2013
 
Sexist indeed... And not even close to reality.

For a start, most of the things known have been invented by men. Supposedly. It's in fact impossible to tell how many things were invented by women, for obvious reasons. Here's two of them:
1) women could, by law, not get patents for their inventions. As a result, men took credit for the invention themselves.
2) Women did not have access to higher education until maybe 100-150 years ago. How do you invent anything sophisticated when you lack the knowledge to do so? Despite that, the very first computer programmer was a woman, and the inventor of kevlar (used for bulletproof vests) was a woman. Also, the person who discovered radiation (and thereby enable chemotherapy) was a woman.

Next: So what if you theoretically could create several babies a day for the rest of your life? If you have no one who is willing to take you, it's useless. A man always needs a willing woman, whereas women will never have trouble finding a willing man. In fact, women don't even need men. Ever heard of semen banks?
So there are still women who die in childbirth. But you know, already the fact that women can give birth is amazing. Men can't. In fact, men can't even stand the pain a woman has to go through in order to have the child. And that has been scientifically proven. Women are (this was proven too) physically less sensitive to pain than men. Try going through the sort of pain women have to go through for the same length of time (the guys who did the test did 2hours screaming & had to stop. Some women have to do 48hours)& then you can talk. That is nowhere near pathetic or weak. Only an ignorant would say that. The only reason men are physically stronger is because in the very far past they had to go hunting and fighting. Women were expected to give birth, raise the children and keep the house clean. Physical activity of any kind was considered a no-go, which also contributed to their physical weakness. Well, now, the tables are turning. Except for athletes, the average man is becoming weaker and the average women's strength is slowly but surely getting closer to that of men.

I don't get what made you think that people only care about women's health... Ever been to a doctor for men? No? Well, they're around and if men don't start going (as they should) they are not going to help in increasing awareness. Besides, prostate cancer (to use your example) is very well-known.
As for your diet coke example: I don't know where you're from, but where I am from and where I have been, there has never been any kind of advertising on the back. On the other hand, I see tons of advertisements for men's health, so your argument (again) doesn't stand.

Now to rape: you know, there's a reason why a man is in prison. Generally because he broke the law. In that case, people couldn't care less what happens to him inside the prison. Had he not broken the law, then he would not be in there. It's his own fault. Besides, if men were capable of keeping it in their pants/trousers, then men in prison would not be raped. It's as simple as that, without even being sexist.
Of course women are being (somewhat) protected against rape! A girl/woman walking around the street should not have to be afraid of being raped! Neither should a boy/man walking around the street. These people are innocent. They have commited no crime and they have not "asked for it". With people protesting against these things, of course there would be awareness. You don't get anything from people keeping silent. And no, men generally don't get raped more often than women. Where did you get your data from?
I agree on the disparity in our society: men like you are the reason why there is not yet equality and why the rest of the men are treated unfairly and seen as rapists, women-haters, etc. You're basically shooting your own gender in the knee.

Btw, until 100 years ago child custody laws were 100% in favour of men. And what's wrong with the school system?
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#73
Aug 19, 2013
 
Marco wrote:
Now to rape: you know, there's a reason why a man is in prison. Generally because he broke the law. In that case, people couldn't care less what happens to him inside the prison. Had he not broken the law, then he would not be in there. It's his own fault. Besides, if men were capable of keeping it in their pants/trousers, then men in prison would not be raped. It's as simple as that, without even being sexist.
I agreed with most of your post up until this part, which is quite frankly disgusting and ignorant, to be honest. Firstly, roughly around 1/3 of prisoners are on remand. Meaning they have not yet been convicted. Under the law someone is innocent until they're proven guilty.

Secondly, even if someone has been convicted of an offence and has been sentenced to a term of imprisonment, why should they make them fair game for horrific rape, abuse, violence or any other mistreatment? Yes they do lose their right to liberty in prison, but that doesn't mean they should be stripped of basic human rights or deemed unworthy of protection.

Remember there's a lot of people who are jailed for non-violent offences, including offences that have no victims - drug possession for own personal use, for example.

Remember what Winston Churchill said "You can judge a nation on how you treat it's prisoners"
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Nov 14, 2013
 

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Women are equal to men. Without women, men would not exist and visa versa. Women will one day be on completely equal footing with men in every aspect. And those immature, ignorant rants that men wrote in this comment stream only further prove that most men are inferior and scared of women because they know that women gain more power over men every day.
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Nov 14, 2013
 
But also, there were a couple of really insightful posts by men on this forum that give me hope that all is not lost for their half of humanity.

“Respect the power of a Man”

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Nov 18, 2013
 
Truth wrote:
Women are equal to men. Without women, men would not exist and visa versa. Women will one day be on completely equal footing with men in every aspect. And those immature, ignorant rants that men wrote in this comment stream only further prove that most men are inferior and scared of women because they know that women gain more power over men every day.
"Women are equal to men." "Women will one day be on completely equal footing with men" Lol they either are or they aren't
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#77
Jan 22, 2014
 
JustAMe wrote:
<quoted text>Let me tell you something Billy Boy! When you can bleed for seven days and not die, and when you are abel to give child birth then we will talk! Until then, STOP THE BITCHING!
Having the ability to carry a child in your womb is amazing. As a result of being the mother of a child, the child is often closer to the mom than the father. Mothers also get to experience an amazing thing in life that a male will never be able to do. You are being rude to use this in a comment. I feel that this comment has no standing. When you can be mature, we will talk!
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Apr 30, 2014
 
tellyawahat wrote:
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Isn't it amazing,yet boring, when women brag about "creating life" when they do not truely create life. GOD creates life and gave men's bodies the ability to make the seeds that become human beings.
Its actually not boring unless your a 'sick' human who doesn't believe in human life/animal life and REAL LIFE but to consider that an accusation of life was made by a fake Deity. yes god existed as a man. but he died on the cross as a man and that is all....btw a bunch of men killed him...human men....that were already created.....by woman AND man.... we need men and women to be put together in harmony......not get mad at women because their bodies are able to take internal and external pain for years. you cant explain an unchosen subject to anything like rape in PRISON, War, or anything like that, that is ugly and done by CHOICE.......Life is beautiful. made by man and woman. they do truly create life. and the point that you ignore this is disgusting. we DO go through pain, agony and mental hurt because of you. we wouldn't mind at all if more men realized this and cared instead of simply putting it in so he can ''pass on his family name''........isn't that sick???? pass on YOUR FAMILY NAME...names are labels...not life or love.... and no. im speaking from the heart...from life experience. unlike all of you who have had one bad experiences if any at all and going on the internet figuring out how to bash the other sex. please just grow up. you need LIFE AND LOVE AND PEACE AND THAT IS ALL....your proving yourself that Christianity is a bad religion just by your simple tone..........
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Apr 30, 2014
 
Gabe wrote:
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Having the ability to carry a child in your womb is amazing. As a result of being the mother of a child, the child is often closer to the mom than the father. Mothers also get to experience an amazing thing in life that a male will never be able to do. You are being rude to use this in a comment. I feel that this comment has no standing. When you can be mature, we will talk!
that is beautiful......it is horribly painful and for some reason we get alot of crap for it but.....you explain in in the only way it needs to........
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Apr 30, 2014
 
BoyPwr wrote:
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"Women are equal to men." "Women will one day be on completely equal footing with men" Lol they either are or they aren't
you look kind of inferior with your BOY POWER and 'RESPECT POWER OF MAN'' macho macho crap...just by your name u can tell your a woman hater....GROW. UP. honestly you guys act like your a sexist 12 yer old all the time. that's meant for the 'no girls allowed' in your porn magazine tree house with your buds. not real adult life.......... either are or aren't? No sir,...there is balance. women are better at some things and men are at other things...equal and unequal. so i think everyone needs to just grow up and stop complaining about women....and men...but i haven't seen one comment yet..........
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Apr 30, 2014
 
Chart wrote:
another thing is women get to make the choice if they brutally kill the baby in an abortion the fathers have NO say. I know it's the women's bodies and all but it's the father's CHILD.
first if all...im young and i dont believe in abortion..but i can tell you it is NOT BRUTAL.it is mentally brutal on both parents but physically on the woman's body which i dont understand. BRUTAL is when someone takes a stick and bashes someones head in out of anger. which sadly happens to women in sexist politics and simply around the world for thousands of years for simply not doing what he desires. and YES MEN DO HAVE A CHOICE. it is BOTH OF THE PARENTS CHILD. not just the fathers. and they do have a choice. alot of women are forced abortion. im not going to explain to you how or why just be mature and look up yourself. take some time to acknowledge women and not just yourself.....only then we can all respect each other. oh and ''another thing''? um look up women's laws. youl laugh at how ridiculous they are and why there should be feminism....which isn't bad. its against abortion btw....
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Apr 30, 2014
 
Sexist indeed... And not even close to reality.
For a start, most of the things known have been invented by men. Supposedly. It's in fact impossible to tell how many things were invented by women, for obvious reasons. Here's two of them:
1) women could, by law, not get patents for their inventions. As a result, men took credit for the invention themselves.
2) Women did not have access to higher education until maybe 100-150 years ago. How do you invent anything sophisticated when you lack the knowledge to do so? Despite that, the very first computer programmer was a woman, and the inventor of kevlar (used for bulletproof vests) was a woman. Also, the person who discovered radiation (and thereby enable chemotherapy) was a woman.
Next: So what if you theoretically could create several babies a day for the rest of your life? If you have no one who is willing to take you, it's useless. A man always needs a willing woman, whereas women will never have trouble finding a willing man. In fact, women don't even need men. Ever heard of semen banks?
So there are still women who die in childbirth. But you know, already the fact that women can give birth is amazing. Men can't. In fact, men can't even stand the pain a woman has to go through in order to have the child. And that has been scientifically proven. Women are (this was proven too) physically less sensitive to pain than men. Try going through the sort of pain women have to go through for the same length of time (the guys who did the test did 2hours screaming & had to stop. Some women have to do 48hours)& then you can talk. That is nowhere near pathetic or weak. Only an ignorant would say that. The only reason men are physically stronger is because in the very far past they had to go hunting and fighting.____ETC.
why are you the only one who can Simply state fact without coming off ad vulgar and sexist? why are you the only one who can admit to mens faults and womens without saying its ALLL women's fault.....your the only one who isn't whining about getting raped in jail by a man on man, but stating that what goes on is because of anger and by their fault..........why cant there just be more people like you.......who speak the truth...:'(...YOUR A Beautiful person and i hope you never change..........
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Apr 30, 2014
 
you guys.(mostly men) need to look at reality...this is sort of a men's post so you can expect to get hate towards women, but all of you complaining about rape in jail, childbirth and women are pathetic shit like this? NEED TO STOP. when you compare childbirth to ''oh all the things men have to go through like jail, war, health ect'' WHICH YOU CANNOT IN ANY POINT IN TIME!, IF, IIIFFF you didnt do bad things and GO TO JAIL YOURSELF (not by woman's fault but your own) you wouldn't get raped in the butt! AND women do NOT IN ANY CIRCUMSTANCE CONTROL WHAT THE MANS GOVERNMENT HAS DONE THROUGH THOUSANDS OF YEARS!('mmmEN Discovered everything and made everything!) BTW WHICH IS NOT TRUE and mostly true because if a woman tried to get higher education or any at all she would be slaughtered... which still exists!!!!! just because you don't live in America doesn't mean there isnt hate and murder against women just for BREATHING THE AIR SHE DESERVES!...women...do NOT CONTROL whether or not you choose go go to war and shoot up a shit load of people!!!! i have NO IDEA why women started joining the war...and never will..i dont even understand why men do!!!! why? because a bunch of MEN want to control countries and money and women's rights! the whole reason of the twin towers and things like that was because MEN WANTED TO CONTROL WOMENs RIGHTS YET AGAIN.('but women's rights is a joke'') haha yes it has always been hilARIOUS...all of it is just a big laughing sick stock!!!!.....all of you men talking down to women and preaching about GOD ALMIGHTY are proving Christianity to be a sexist retarded hateful HATEFUL THING! we cant keep living like this! if you dont want women to be sexist and or have feminism which we ALL DESPERATELY NEED,Than GROW the HECK UP! and think about the next generation! our children need help and all you can think about is bashing women and everything that stands IN YOUR WAY! its sad. because men are, are , are in all control! and all they can do is blame women for everything! all the laws that MEN MAKE! WHY???? JUST STOP!
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Apr 30, 2014
 
Jack wrote:
In America when a male reaches 18 years of age he is required by law to register for the draft . If he refuses to do so then he faces certain penalties across the board . He loses his right to vote . His driving priveleges can and will be taken away . Also all college financial assistance programs become off limits to him , no grants , no loans .
There are no such regulations for females making these laws and penalties entirely sexist in both function and nature .
For the last 25 years or so every male safe-haven in this country from military school to elementary school sports to everything in between has been under siege by women screaming and ranting as they are demanding equality . Why is it that no one has pointed out that they want equality in every area other than responsibility ?
Laws concerning the draft should mandate that women also be required to sign up at age 18 or face the same penalties as men . The military , police forces , fire fighters , miners , offshore workers ,construction workers , garbage men , sewer workers and all other dangerous or undesirable occupations should be mandated by law to be filled 50 % men and 50 % women . If enough women don't apply for these jobs then they should be drafted into service and required to fill those positions . Thats what we really want isn't it ? Equality ? Fairness ? Or do we really not want equality in the arena of responsibility ?
World war 2 over 200,000 American men gave their lives , less than 300 women . Vietnam , over 50,000 American men gave their lives , less than 100 women . All wars bear similar statistics . The same for police officers killed on duty , firefighters , construction workers , miners and all dangerous jobs . There never has been equality of responsibility in this country , there never will . Why does no one point out the plain , obvious and rampant discrimination against men in this country ?
maybe its time men went through what women did....even though it could never add up to be equal pain.....but that's not important....whats important is equality. and you cant blame women for what the male government does.

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