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Resident of Birdsboro

Reading, PA

#1 Dec 16, 2008
I have lived in Birdsboro for over 5 years now. Everytime our water/sewer bills go up up up they blame it on the same thing. How do they think people can pay these high bills. We don't make to kind of money that they do. Borough official need to get their heads out of their buts and tell the truth. Our bill went from about $150.00 per 1/4 to over $400.00, we are at work all day and have a child in school. Wish they could explain the truth!!!!!!!!!!
Angry Birdsboro Resident

Royersford, PA

#2 Dec 19, 2008
Our quarterly bill doubled. Thankfully at $500, it isn't nearly as bad as some of my neighbors whose most recent bill was over $800. How in the world did they expect 2000 blue collar people to pay for 10M????? Did they think this through at all? As soon as this housing crisis is over we are out of here!!!
jeff

Boyertown, PA

#3 Dec 24, 2008
all they do is lie mr DEAN MILLER NEEDS TO RESIGN.
Kathy Birdsboro resident

Boyertown, PA

#4 Jan 19, 2009
They had an excellent girl in the water dept. who would help everyone that came in with their complaints.Never was she arrogant,ugly,refusing help,or did she brush anyone off.If she couldn't help immediately,she would call back after talking to the manager.Very,very helpful and now,you call there & get nothing but arrogance,stupid answers and above all,they know nothing,ever! Getting rid of that employee was your biggest mistake.She knew more than the boro authority and the boro council and all their cronies put together.I guess she didn't play their games, right? she was helpful and an asset to the Boro.Now, nothing gets done,you close one day a week,and from my understanding,all work is ou of there,that she did, which was probably everything. What does that show the residents of Birdsboro. She is the one that kept it together,knew everything and never put the residents last! You people are pathetic!!
Jennifer and Michael

AOL

#5 Jan 28, 2009
This is public information that we just learned. A secretary of Boro Hall, charged with DUI,had her license taken away, and is still there,working in a local gov't position? And the one that was fired for doing her job,knowing her job, and helping everyone, is no longer there,a place in Maryland is doing the water * sewer billing, the President of Council is responsible for the program being used for the billing,and our rates are outrageous,with my bill gotten today. Is there something desperately wrong with this picture!!
BIRDSBORO RESIDENT

Reading, PA

#6 Jan 28, 2009
just received latest water/sewer bill...this is criminal...my family status and habits have not changed in 4 years however our water/sewer bill has nearly tripled... $180 - now $520...we need change in local government now
Birdsboro resident

Philadelphia, PA

#7 Jan 28, 2009
My water Bill went up over 500 Dollars in one quarter! I have no leaks and did not change my water habits. What everyone needs to do is to contact the Attorny Generals Office and report this to them.
jeff Birdsboro resident

Dickson City, PA

#8 Jan 29, 2009
whaen you call there its a joke sandy the phone gronny picks up and tells you the manager is not in i called from the parking lot one day and keren was sitting in her office no shes not in try back or leave a message never do i get a call back they need to clean house down there and start over and get somone that cares for the residents of birdsboro karen are mgr does not even live in are town this is bull. PLEASE LOWER ARE WATER AND SEWER RATES.
The UnWashed masses

Reading, PA

#9 Jan 29, 2009
I moved to Birdsboro over eight years ago from the City of Reading. I assumed it was to make life better for our family. Our house is about 15 years old. At that time our water bill was lower then where we moved from. Mind you, the house we moved from was approxmately 1500 sq. ft. smaller with little or no grass.
Recently, the boro replaced all meters, stateing that the meters were no longer functioning properly because they only last for up to 15 years of age. In the eight years of residence we have had our rates increased at least 3 times. The most recent bill indicates that we have used over 30,000 gallons of water. This purplexes me because over these last 3 months we have adjusted our water usage by reducing the time and frequency of showers, toilet flushing, and misc water usage. All this resulted in a billing of almost $800.00. An increase over the last billing of almost $170.00 dollars. Makes one question the conservation effort. In addition the Boro, in the spirit of the nations bail out, asks each resident to assist them in an effort to petition the PA government for the Water Grant. My question to them and all who suffer this reign of terror is, why have you waited so long and what will you do with the money if recieved. To date our Boro Government has not shown much fiscal responsibility or concern for it's residents.
Michele Crammer

AOL

#10 Feb 4, 2009
My friend just gave me an article that was in the paper a few weeks ago. Everyone knows I'm the one who worked in the water dept., but I am not the only one who took payments.For instance the 6 mo. I was out for an operation, and another 6 mo. I was out for an operation, which I had all the sick time accumulated because I was never absent,so who took the payments then, the boro fairy? And Dean Miller refers to me as fixing peoples bills, that is absolutely not true.When Beard & Miller did the Authority's audit,they secretly called me to the library to meet with them to help straighten things out. I did meet with them & I told them if they would check at M & T Bank and at Leesport Bank when accounts were opened and closed by the Boro secretary and the then former manager, they would know where the Authority's misplaced money went. But they didn't, so they really didn't do their job,plus I told Dean Miller, who could never look me in the eye, when it was happening about the money and I told councilpeople and NO ONE did a thing.They are not going to blame me and make me look bad in this community. I was going to go to the paper, but I was advised, by the lawyer I had gotten in the beginning from Phila., that because there is nothing stating certain comments cannot be made, I should just put it on here for everyone to see, and thats what I did because what I'm saying is the truth. I was a dedicated good worker and I helped residents understand their bills as much as I understood them and I got screwed! Personally, and I know I'm allowed to say all this because it says ask for comments or your opinions, and this is mine, with no restrictions, so legally anyone can say what they want, I think the program is messed up, truly and I know for a fact some of the readings were NOT correct because I had backup of what the readings were when they were first taken and how out of line they were and then when the dept. would go back and read, I would make a copy of that, so all the readings had backup, what happened to all that stuff after I was left go, I have no idea!and as far as applying for grants, its not the boro people who should be doing the writing, the Boro Manager is supposed to apply for grants, when Ron Ewing was there, he did all that stuff.Yes, you can tell I'm pissed because I'm tired of being the escape goat. I did my job, followed the rules, its whats left in the Boro Hall that didin't. I just wanted people to know the truth, because being a liar that dean miller is, made it sound like I took money, which I had heard they even checked into my accounts and background.Wow, I guess they didn't find anything, I'm still poor as ever!! Thanks everyone, and please run for council and ask to be appointed on the authority.start a petition to get rid of the authority members now because council appoints the authority members and YOU elect council members so please, do your civic duty and run for council or make a petition, its for your best interest.I hope you all have everyone read this because I know I'm allowed to say all this or believe me, I wouldn't. Michele Crammer PS You can't hide from the truth, it all catches up with you one way or another, like my mom used to say, what goes around comes around.I would have never written this, but seeing that in the paper was the LAST straw that put me over the edge!!
Mike

Boyertown, PA

#11 Feb 8, 2009
You need to clean house down there.Somebody is kissing somebodys butt or you wouldn't have the girl down there you have.what does she get paid for knowing. I'm one of the vendors that you deal with.Bring the real girl back who knew what she was doing and what had to be done.Between the Council and the Authority who are all stupid, very stupid people, no matter what degrees they have, they don't have the class it takes to run a boro made up of mostly the elderly, the one they left go in the back office is the one who should be running the boro. Byt the way, iis it true about the girl down there, drunken driving, dui,license taken away. Who's butt is she kissing that her job is still there??
Crazy

Barto, PA

#12 Feb 11, 2009
Birdsboro... what a joke.

How can you expect people to afford their bills in a a time like this.

If any potential home buyers are considering birdsboro --- KEEP ON MOVING

When the RT82 bridge falls down I guess we are going to have to pay for that too?

Could you ask my boss for a raise for me? Oh wait, my company just froze everyones salary for 2009 and are in the midst of layoffs. Good timing BBORO.. should have gotten outa here when i had the chance!

“Why so SERIOUS? ”

Since: Jan 09

It's hard core up in da woods

#13 Feb 11, 2009
Crazy wrote:
Birdsboro... what a joke.
How can you expect people to afford their bills in a a time like this.
If any potential home buyers are considering birdsboro --- KEEP ON MOVING
When the RT82 bridge falls down I guess we are going to have to pay for that too?

Could you ask my boss for a raise for me? Oh wait, my company just froze everyones salary for 2009 and are in the midst of layoffs. Good timing BBORO.. should have gotten outa here when i had the chance!
Accidental fires happen every day... when you and your family isn't home...wink...wink. Good luck
judy

AOL

#14 Feb 17, 2009
let's see, I remember seeing in the paper where the Boro Office was not allowed to use their computers for personal email amoung other comments,in order to be more productive, well, upon checking this email,it looks like it was sent to sandy kline at the boro and to sfeick at the boro from a councilwoman.Is that why they are closed on a Wednesday, they are doing work, from the time they took taxpayers money playing games and sending emails to each other? If we all did that at work, everything would shut down.GET RID OF THE USELESS SLACKERS!!
OFM

Boyertown, PA

#15 Feb 19, 2009
jeff Birdsboro resident wrote:
whaen you call there its a joke sandy the phone gronny picks up and tells you the manager is not in i called from the parking lot one day and keren was sitting in her office no shes not in try back or leave a message never do i get a call back they need to clean house down there and start over and get somone that cares for the residents of birdsboro karen are mgr does not even live in are town this is bull. PLEASE LOWER ARE WATER AND SEWER RATES.
Keren a manager? Yea right, her workers know more about the borough then she does and just think about it, I heard she gets paid $60 or $65K FOR WHAT! Cut her salery in half and we could have money for our street repair! Of course that won't happen because the person who hired her is high up on the food chain and he care more about her then he does about the borough! Has the manager applied for a grant? That is part of her job but she probably doesn't know it.
Blake Stoffers

Reading, PA

#16 Mar 5, 2009
Michelle Cramer,
I am truly sorry you have been screwed by this "town". You always have treated your citizens right. The strong armed tactics of the BMA and their third party billing co. can no longer be tolorated in this economic enironment. There must be a revolt either political or by other MEANS.
to threaten to terminate water sevice because your invoice is 7 days past due is insane and intolorable. CITIZENS UNITE FIRE THEM ALL !!!
judy

AOL

#17 Apr 27, 2009
What does it take for you, meaning council, representing the Boro, to wake up!! You are assinine!! Who is the girl in the so called secretary position, sleeping with that she stays there. there is absolutelynothing that she knows!! Unbelievable!! The best person in the water dept. was the person who got canned. Why, she didn't sleep with anyone or kiss anyones ass!! You people are a joke and don't think we all and I mean all in birdsboro aren't saying this. Everyone is fed up. Look what is left in the office. Who in their right mind wants to even try to deal with those idiots. Bring back a well respected "lady" in the Boro, bring back Michele. and contrary to what, and I know who started this, Sandy Kline, the drunk with the DUI, she did not fix anyonmes bills. Good Luck Michele where ever or whoever hired you. I'm sure you are doing them proud. Too bad the Boro screwed you like they did, they lost a very good dedicated employee. Oh by the way, the other side has an idiot too for a secretary, this town really went to hell!! thanks for the comment posting, too bad you idiots don't read them or care to read them. It shows you really aren't for the people, but the elections are coming up!!
Concerned Resident

Boyertown, PA

#18 May 12, 2009
Call the police! We're being robbed. How can the BMA think that our bills are acceptible???Why would they think that having a monthly water bill that exceeds the electric bill ok? I hear that the Municipal Authority will be at a meeting on May 18. Let's all attend and tell them what we think!!!!! I plan on giving them an earfull after the crap they pulled this week. They called everyone's past due amounts to be paid immediately. For many of us not paying has been our protest. Now they will have to deal with us face to face. I can't wait to hear their lame excuses. Hopefully news stations will be there. Why would anyone want to buy a house in Birdsboro?????????? Boro council that should be a concern of yours....Thats OK...your all gonna be fired anyway!!!!!!!!
Jeff

Reading, PA

#19 May 12, 2009
Michele Crammer wrote:
My friend just gave me an article that was in the paper a few weeks ago. Everyone knows I'm the one who worked in the water dept., but I am not the only one who took payments.For instance the 6 mo. I was out for an operation, and another 6 mo. I was out for an operation, which I had all the sick time accumulated because I was never absent,so who took the payments then, the boro fairy? And Dean Miller refers to me as fixing peoples bills, that is absolutely not true.When Beard & Miller did the Authority's audit,they secretly called me to the library to meet with them to help straighten things out. I did meet with them & I told them if they would check at M & T Bank and at Leesport Bank when accounts were opened and closed by the Boro secretary and the then former manager, they would know where the Authority's misplaced money went. But they didn't, so they really didn't do their job,plus I told Dean Miller, who could never look me in the eye, when it was happening about the money and I told councilpeople and NO ONE did a thing.They are not going to blame me and make me look bad in this community. I was going to go to the paper, but I was advised, by the lawyer I had gotten in the beginning from Phila., that because there is nothing stating certain comments cannot be made, I should just put it on here for everyone to see, and thats what I did because what I'm saying is the truth. I was a dedicated good worker and I helped residents understand their bills as much as I understood them and I got screwed! Personally, and I know I'm allowed to say all this because it says ask for comments or your opinions, and this is mine, with no restrictions, so legally anyone can say what they want, I think the program is messed up, truly and I know for a fact some of the readings were NOT correct because I had backup of what the readings were when they were first taken and how out of line they were and then when the dept. would go back and read, I would make a copy of that, so all the readings had backup, what happened to all that stuff after I was left go, I have no idea!and as far as applying for grants, its not the boro people who should be doing the writing, the Boro Manager is supposed to apply for grants, when Ron Ewing was there, he did all that stuff.Yes, you can tell I'm pissed because I'm tired of being the escape goat. I did my job, followed the rules, its whats left in the Boro Hall that didin't. I just wanted people to know the truth, because being a liar that dean miller is, made it sound like I took money, which I had heard they even checked into my accounts and background.Wow, I guess they didn't find anything, I'm still poor as ever!! Thanks everyone, and please run for council and ask to be appointed on the authority.start a petition to get rid of the authority members now because council appoints the authority members and YOU elect council members so please, do your civic duty and run for council or make a petition, its for your best interest.I hope you all have everyone read this because I know I'm allowed to say all this or believe me, I wouldn't. Michele Crammer PS You can't hide from the truth, it all catches up with you one way or another, like my mom used to say, what goes around comes around.I would have never written this, but seeing that in the paper was the LAST straw that put me over the edge!!
SORRY ABOUT YOUR JOB FIRE KAREN THE MGR,SANDY THE PHONE GRONNY,AND TELL DEAN MILLER HE IS NUTS AND A LOOSER HE COULD CARE LESS WHAT WE PAY FOR WATER/SEWER HE CANT EVEN RUN THINGS IN READING HE USE A READING CO CAR TO GO TO BIRDSBORO MEETINGS GET RID OF ALL THESE NITWITS AND SCAMERS.
fired up in birdsboro

Boyertown, PA

#20 May 13, 2009
keeping sandy kline after she has a dui and lost here drivers licence just shows Karen are mgr is worthless when i use to come in to pay my bill before they got the new billing system sandy allways had a bottle of spring water i think with her drinking promplem it was not water? gin or vodka clean house down there.tell Dean Miller to go back to reading how much money did he take from the water audit beard & miller is that a relation to him they say he is worhless in reading i think he is worthless in are town of Birdsboro can not wait for the next water meeting time to voice are side down with the water board. time to protest in the parking lot to get rid of the Drunk sandy & Karen are sad manager.

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