Biglerville bans tobacco use by minors

Biglerville bans tobacco use by minors

There are 32 comments on the Evening Sun story from May 3, 2011, titled Biglerville bans tobacco use by minors. In it, Evening Sun reports that:

In an effort to promote public health and cut down on littered cigarette butts, Biglerville Borough Council voted unanimously Tuesday night to prohibit minors from smoking and possessing tobacco products and devices.

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HanoverRes

Doylestown, OH

#22 May 4, 2011
Why not get rid of all the kids racing on golden mile every weekend, funny how you never see any cops out there late night on weekends. Also why are kids hanging in all the parking is that not lotering but lets officers turn there head to every thing but a kid smoking a cig. But to worry about kids smoking in Biglerville how about getting rid of the illegal aliens that live up there that would be a better start to cleaning up streets.
Street Racer

Hanover, PA

#23 May 4, 2011
HanoverRes wrote:
Why not get rid of all the kids racing on golden mile every weekend, funny how you never see any cops out there late night on weekends. Also why are kids hanging in all the parking is that not lotering but lets officers turn there head to every thing but a kid smoking a cig. But to worry about kids smoking in Biglerville how about getting rid of the illegal aliens that live up there that would be a better start to cleaning up streets.
Nothing wrong with riding the circuit. What do you want us to do? Go bowling I bet. Why don't you come out and drink a Coke with us.
Bryan J Felix

Carlisle, PA

#24 May 4, 2011
HanoverRes, I would imagine that the Biglerville Borough Council doesnt care about the loitering, and traffic on Eisenhower Drive because they are located in Hanover. Teens can still smoke in Hanover.
whomever

Northville, MI

#25 May 4, 2011
Isn't it already a national law?
Local

Mansfield, OH

#26 May 4, 2011
bigleville grad wrote:
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Why country just sings about drunks and your love life.Will be interesting to go to a football game on Friday nights and see if they police it then.Dont get me stared about the town cop.
It looks like you didn't pay attention in school. I graduated from Biglerville (not bigleville) and don't have your awful grammer and spelling! Maybe if parents gave a crap about their kids and kids didn't want to "act cool" for their friends, the police wouldn't have to "harass" as one parent said the teens and young adults. They shouldn't be loitering and hanging out smoking in town anyways if they are under the legal age to do so!
Mark

Hanover, PA

#27 May 4, 2011
things never change. when my parents were teens their parents and other adults thought it was wrong for them to smoke, listen to rock and roll and dress however they wanted. the govt has got nothing else to do but lay down these idiotic smoking laws. sure i smoked cigs as a teen and didn't have anybody fining me for it. i know in maryland there is a law on teens buying and smoking cigs or cigars and have yet to hear about being inforced because the police their selves know there are bigger crimes to enforce. kids are going to defy authority figures anyway you look at it, like riding their bikes,cars to the outskirts of the borough or going into wooded areas. then there will be another problem; brush fires.
Really

Hanover, PA

#28 May 4, 2011
Bob wrote:
Boyer and Lanius have it wrong. An Ordinance will not change behavior, what you do with having the Ordinance can. Hey Hanover Evening Sun, let's measure the strength of their convictions and do a follow-up article in 6 months. How many fines?
The "promote public health and cut down on littered cigarette butts" is a disguise for gaining more funds via citations. Now a little town in PA is becoming the Nanny. They should think about having the code enforcement check those houses that are zoned "single family" that have multiple illegals exhausting tax funds.
The Killer Rabbit

Gettysburg, PA

#30 May 5, 2011
Bob wrote:
Boyer and Lanius have it wrong. An Ordinance will not change behavior, what you do with having the Ordinance can. Hey Hanover Evening Sun, let's measure the strength of their convictions and do a follow-up article in 6 months. How many fines?
It will cost more to [attempt to] enforce and defend this "law" than will ever be reaped by catching the "criminals" in violation of it. The expense of tying up local law enforce officers on paperwork and civil court appearances will take resources away from pursuing REAL criminals. Or are there no REAL criminals dealing drugs, planning gang activities, etc., in Biggotsville?

A follow-up article WITH ACTUAL STATISTICS in 6 months is a brilliant idea Bob! It will be most valuable to see the "gross receipts" from enforcement as a function of labor hours required to process this new class of "criminals." The data must also include the labor hours and resources that Biglerville spends for legal representation in those cases where their "judgments" are contested and wind up in County Court.

(Didn't Kevin Bacon star in a movie back in the 80's about something like this?)
Bryan J Felix

Emmitsburg, MD

#31 May 6, 2011
Local,
Not to be an A$$, but if you are going to speak of someones "grammer", at least spell it correctly. It is grammar.
Just Saying

Hanover, PA

#32 May 6, 2011
The Killer Rabbit wrote:
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It will cost more to [attempt to] enforce and defend this "law" than will ever be reaped by catching the "criminals" in violation of it. The expense of tying up local law enforce officers on paperwork and civil court appearances will take resources away from pursuing REAL criminals. Or are there no REAL criminals dealing drugs, planning gang activities, etc., in Biggotsville?
A follow-up article WITH ACTUAL STATISTICS in 6 months is a brilliant idea Bob! It will be most valuable to see the "gross receipts" from enforcement as a function of labor hours required to process this new class of "criminals." The data must also include the labor hours and resources that Biglerville spends for legal representation in those cases where their "judgments" are contested and wind up in County Court.
(Didn't Kevin Bacon star in a movie back in the 80's about something like this?)
So you support young people smoking and drinking alcohol?
State cops are good

Harrisburg, PA

#33 May 6, 2011
Biglerville cops are just puppets of Ms. Gleamer and her husband.
The Killer Rabbit

Gettysburg, PA

#35 Jun 10, 2011
Just Saying wrote:
<quoted text>So you support young people smoking and drinking alcohol?
Those are YOUR words. I did not imply or say that. Stick to the issue. This issue has NOTHING to do with young people drinking alcoholic beverages.

You should be thinking before "just saying."

Cracking down on "underage" tobacco use doesn't solve the problem of underage tobacco use. They won't quit or slow down. They will just hide (better). Making money off of people because they do something unhealthy (or illegal) doesn't improve their health. It does ONE thing: makes money for the town - that's it. If smoking is unhealthy at the age of 13 it is just as unhealthy at the age of 18 or 80. You cannot responsibly use tobacco at ANY age. Parents and older people are the ones setting the examples for young people to follow. Telling a younger person that they can't do something that is unhealthy until they are 18 years old teaches them how to be hypocrites, not health minded citizens. The Biggotsville brown shirts aren't interested in the aspects of health. If they were they would ban tobacco use by EVERYONE. It is impossible to think that smoking becomes "safer" or that it can be done responsibly merely because someone is older than another.

The question for you "just saying" is do you believe that smoking IS healthy once you are a certain age?

Face it: governments regulate tobacco products to MAKE money (at the expense of the consumer's health).

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