Gettysburg Crime YTD
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CSI

Cheltenham, PA

#3 Jul 29, 2014
A few quick hits before the debate and cherry picking start.
In nearly 7 full months of 2014 there's been 2 rapes, 3 robberies, 14 aggravated assaults, 31 burglaries, 94 larcenies, 2 arson, 0 sex offenses, and 1 offense against family and children.
CSI

Cheltenham, PA

#4 Jul 29, 2014
Let's get some definition from the FBI so these crimes are not misrepresented.

Larceny-theft: The FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program defines larceny-theft as the unlawful taking, carrying, leading, or riding away of property from the possession or constructive possession of another. Examples are thefts of bicycles, motor vehicle parts and accessories, shoplifting, pocket-picking, or the stealing of any property or article that is not taken by force and violence or by fraud

Aggravated Assault: The FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program defines aggravated assault as an unlawful attack by one person upon another for the purpose of inflicting severe or aggravated bodily injury. The UCR Program further specifies that this type of assault is usually accompanied by the use of a weapon or by other means likely to produce death or great bodily harm.

Burglary: The FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program defines burglary as the unlawful entry of a structure to commit a felony or theft. To classify an offense as a burglary, the use of force to gain entry need not have occurred.

Robbery: The FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program defines robbery as the taking or attempting to take anything of value from the care, custody, or control of a person or persons by force or threat of force or violence and/or by putting the victim in fear.
Pillip Freeman

Gettysburg, PA

#5 Jul 29, 2014
I understand the actual numbers. But what is the rate per 1,000 population. And unfortunately I realize that this well be based on the tax paying population of about 7,620 and will not include the 2,700 college students and almost 300 Seminary students who are here from September to May. Nor will it include the 1.2 million visitors to the community.
Any one of these groups can be either a victim of a crime, or a criminal committing a crime.
So when you do see the number of crimes per 1,000 listed, those numbers will be based on the 7,620 who reside here 365 days a year, when in fact the number of crimes per 1,000 population should actually be based on the 13,970 or more people who may be in town at any given time. Again any of these visitors or students could be the criminal, or a victim of a crime, but your statistics will not take that in to account.
Pillip Freeman

Gettysburg, PA

#6 Jul 29, 2014
I get some different figures from this site. Where did you get yours?

http://ucr.psp.state.pa.us/ibi_apps/WFServlet
ummm

Toledo, OH

#7 Jul 29, 2014
Those appear to be the Gettysburg State Police barracks numbers added to Gettysburg Boro police numbers. Gettysburg PSP covers more than Gettysburg though.
Pillip Freeman

Gettysburg, PA

#8 Jul 29, 2014
So if the borough and state police were both involved it is possible that some crimes could be counted two times?
Just the Facts

Chesapeake, OH

#9 Jul 29, 2014
The latest statistics on city- data.com are 2012. The UCR data is from 2011. A seven month straw count of crimes doesn't mean jack. No conclusions can be drawn from this discussion except that Gettysburg is not crime free. From the published data it shows that the crime rate is lower in Gettysburg than the state and national average.
CSI

Cheltenham, PA

#10 Jul 29, 2014
The first 2 posts in this thread were 1. Gettysgurg Boro Police YTD stats for ALL reported crimes and the % change from the previous year 2. Gettysburg State Police YTD stats for ALL reported crimes with % change from the previous year. In most cases it appeared crime was down significantly over the same period last year. If you can't see those posts it's because Topix sucks. The statistics from the PSP UCR should be above reproach. Either way there doesn't seem to be a serious violent crime or sexual abuse epidemic.
Costard

Ashburn, VA

#11 Jul 29, 2014
There's a lot of crime down there in Gettysburg.
Costard

Ashburn, VA

#12 Jul 29, 2014
Pillip Freeman wrote:
I understand the actual numbers. But what is the rate per 1,000 population. And unfortunately I realize that this well be based on the tax paying population of about 7,620 and will not include the 2,700 college students and almost 300 Seminary students who are here from September to May. Nor will it include the 1.2 million visitors to the community.
Any one of these groups can be either a victim of a crime, or a criminal committing a crime.
So when you do see the number of crimes per 1,000 listed, those numbers will be based on the 7,620 who reside here 365 days a year, when in fact the number of crimes per 1,000 population should actually be based on the 13,970 or more people who may be in town at any given time. Again any of these visitors or students could be the criminal, or a victim of a crime, but your statistics will not take that in to account.
There's a lot of transients down there in Gettysburg. A lot of crime too.
ummm

Toledo, OH

#13 Jul 31, 2014
CSI wrote:
Either way there doesn't seem to be a serious violent crime or sexual abuse epidemic.
Sure doesn't
ummm

Cheltenham, PA

#16 Jul 31, 2014
Davenport wrote:
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2 out of every 3 days a serious, violent crime occurs in Gettysburg borough. Add in the surrounding areas, and it's a daily occurrence
Gettysburg's future isn't worth a pitcherful of piss.
That's not what the current statistics indicate
CSI

Cheltenham, PA

#18 Jul 31, 2014
It's actually not a serious crime. The statistics from the PSP and Gettysburg Boro Police simple do not substantiate any of what you claim. Even your most recent fetish, the guy with the parole violation, misses the mark. 18-36 months, out in 12? On a parole violation no less? The judge and DA obviously don't share you opinion that this is a dangerous violent individual.
davenport loser

Philadelphia, PA

#20 Aug 7, 2014
Davenport wrote:
<quoted text>Says the moron who doesn't think cocaine dealing and fleeing from the police is a serious crime.

Shut your stupid face, you worthless farmhand.
What happen to davenport?? Maybe someone raped his mouth?! Or maybe is psychotherapist told him he should not be trolling on the site anymore. Looks the the therapy is working. Must be going everyday.
Davenport

Philadelphia, PA

#21 Aug 7, 2014
davenport loser wrote:
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What happen to davenport?? Maybe someone raped his mouth?! Or maybe is psychotherapist told him he should not be trolling on the site anymore. Looks the the therapy is working. Must be going everyday.
Take a baby to a drug deal or something.
CSI

Cheltenham, PA

#22 Aug 7, 2014
Davenport wrote:
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Take a baby to a drug deal or something.
So you have no interest in, or are incapable of, having an adult, rational fact based discussion?
Davenport

Philadelphia, PA

#23 Aug 7, 2014
CSI wrote:
<quoted text>So you have no interest in, or are incapable of, having an adult, rational fact based discussion?
Fact: 2 out of every 3 days, a serious violent crime occurs in this cesspool of a borough.

Fact: There is twice the amount of sex crimes in Gettysburg than the rest of the nation. Gettysburg is the Child Rape Capital of the a United States.

Fact: Crime, including violent gang crime, is on the upswing in Gettysburg.

You just don't want to admit your town is changing for the worse and there's nothing you can do about it. Too bad your self-esteem is tied to this toilet of a town.
CSI

Cheltenham, PA

#24 Aug 7, 2014
CSI wrote:
It was recently posted in this forum that there are 24 registered sex offenders living in Gettysburg. Not only was this incorrectly reported from the "source" (it was 23, not 24) but the source itself is inaccurate by it's own admission. The source, homefacts.com , comes complete with a disclaimer that none of the information they provide is guaranteed accurate and should always be verified with another, more reliable, source. That other more reliable source is of course the Pennsylvania State Police. According to a municipality search for Gettysburg the Megan's Law Registry database operated the Pennsylvania State Police shows 11 registered sex offenders in Gettysburg. This would put Gettysburg right in line with the national average.
I also noted earlier in this thread that according to the Boro and State Police Reports for Gettysburg there have been no sex offenses reported so far this year and only one crime against family and children.
Truth
These are fats with sources.
CSI

Cheltenham, PA

#26 Aug 7, 2014
It was recently posted in this forum that there are 24 registered sex offenders living in Gettysburg. Not only was this incorrectly reported from the "source" (it was 23, not 24) but the source itself is inaccurate by it's own admission. The source, homefacts.com , comes complete with a disclaimer that none of the information they provide is guaranteed accurate and should always be verified with another, more reliable, source. That other more reliable source is of course the Pennsylvania State Police. According to a municipality search for Gettysburg the Megan's Law Registry database operated the Pennsylvania State Police shows 11 registered sex offenders in Gettysburg. This would put Gettysburg right in line with the national average.
I also noted earlier in this thread that according to the Boro and State Police Reports for Gettysburg there have been no sex offenses reported so far this year and only one crime against family and children.
CSI

Cheltenham, PA

#27 Aug 12, 2014
In light of the recent excitement on the battlefield I guess it's time for an update. It was reported in this forum by one of the resident crime "experts" that the perpetrator was facing charges that could send him to prison for 28.5 to 42 years. This, much like most of the information this person posts, is inaccurate. According to the Justice Department press release if convicted on all charges the accused would face a maximum 11 years in prison and $500k in fines. The actual charges were simple assault, malicious mischief, and interstate communications threatening injury to another. Incidentally, none of this will impact the local crime rate as the crime occurred on federal property (the battlefield) and charges were filed in federal court.
The same poster responsible for the distortion of the story above is also responsible for the recent post claiming that a website named neighborhoodscout shows Gettysburg crime per square mile well over the national average. According to the neighborhoodscout FAQ their data is from 2012, but let's put that aside for a moment. In addition to saying that Gettysburg had an above average number of crimes per square mile neighborhoodscout also showed Gettysburg's violent crime and property crime rates to have been below the national average and on par with the state average in 2012. We can already see from 7 months of data for this year that there is no crime epidemic and now, thanks to our "expert", we know there was no epidemic in 2012 either. It appears our "expert" has been hoisted by his own petard.

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