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Tornadoes, flooding, snow, no snow - 2010 is likely to stick in the minds of Minnesota climatolog...

There are 58 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Dec 29, 2010, titled Tornadoes, flooding, snow, no snow - 2010 is likely to stick in the minds of Minnesota climatolog.... In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Interior view of the Mall of America Field, Metrodome, ripped and deflated, after Saturday's huge snow storm that hit the Twin Cities, on Sunday morning December 12, 2010.

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El Rushbo Fan

Owatonna, MN

#41 Jan 5, 2011
George Jones wrote:
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My next question to you is how old are you? I am 54 so I was around in the 70's and there was more, much, much more than a 2 page article in Newsweek about global cooling. It was constantly on the news and in the papers, constantly. Have you heard of the regulations about fluorocarbons? And the ingrediants in aerosol cans? Do a bit more research instead of using talking points. Were you aware that there has been "a consensus among scientists" four times now in 150 years? First global cooling, then warming, then cooling, then warming.
I'm 52, sorry, don't remember too much about a media frenzy on global cooling. Please enlighten me. I really honestly want to hear about it.

“I am always right.”

Since: Oct 09

Former MN Taxpayer

#42 Jan 5, 2011
Our Mother, the Earth is more powerful than man will ever be.

Those that think we can control her forces by shutting off a light bulb are either dishonest or fools.
Chinese Delivery Guy

Owatonna, MN

#43 Jan 5, 2011
IrishMN wrote:
Our Mother, the Earth is more powerful than man will ever be.
Those that think we can control her forces by shutting off a light bulb are either dishonest or fools.
Good point, but very ironic. The question is not whether the earth survives, it's if man has the same place in it as we do now. Humans share this home with millions of other species, and if the earth had a point of view to offer, it couldn't care less whether it allows us to survive - or not.

“REUNITE GONDWANALAND!”

Since: Jun 08

Woodbury

#44 Jan 5, 2011
IrishMN wrote:
Our Mother, the Earth is more powerful than man will ever be.
Those that think we can control her forces by shutting off a light bulb are either dishonest or fools.
If you think we haven't already influenced the climate by pouring unprecedented amounts of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere since the start of the industrial revolution, you are ignoring reality. We can, and we often do, work against nature, often to our detriment - eliminating wetlands near New Orleans, for example, increased the destruction caused by Hurricane Katrina. We build dams, we divert rivers, we alter coastlines, we drain wetlands...we are not mere passive observers here.

“I am always right.”

Since: Oct 09

Former MN Taxpayer

#45 Jan 5, 2011
Our Mother's changes prior to the Industrial Revolution tell me that man's impact is minimal.

Nothing wrong with being environmentally friendly, but you are giving yourself far too much credit if you think you are significant enough to alter the environment.
jcf817

Minneapolis, MN

#46 Jan 5, 2011
IrishMN wrote:
Our Mother's changes prior to the Industrial Revolution tell me that man's impact is minimal.
Nothing wrong with being environmentally friendly, but you are giving yourself far too much credit if you think you are significant enough to alter the environment.
Why don't you ask the people of Fargo and Grand Forks if the altered farmland up there affects them most every spring?
AntiMelting

Buffalo, MN

#47 Jan 5, 2011
jcf817 wrote:
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Why don't you ask the people of Fargo and Grand Forks if the altered farmland up there affects them most every spring?
Man is not bigger than nature.
jcf817

Minneapolis, MN

#48 Jan 5, 2011
AntiMelting wrote:
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Man is not bigger than nature.
If you're trying to counter my argument, you should try a little harder.

“I am always right.”

Since: Oct 09

Former MN Taxpayer

#49 Jan 5, 2011
jcf817 wrote:
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Why don't you ask the people of Fargo and Grand Forks if the altered farmland up there affects them most every spring?
Altered farmland is NOT freakin' global warming or global climate change.
jcf817

Minneapolis, MN

#50 Jan 5, 2011
IrishMN wrote:
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Altered farmland is NOT freakin' global warming or global climate change.
I'm just arguing against your idea that we cannot affect mother nature.
AntiMelting

Garden City, MI

#51 Jan 5, 2011
jcf817 wrote:
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I'm just arguing against your idea that we cannot affect mother nature.
It's a stupid point that Progressive love to use. Will toxic waste affect a lake, of course...will an atomic bomb affect the nature around it, yes...does man cause flooding, increased hurricanes and heavier snowfalls...no. There is no global warming caused by man. It's called weather and cycles.

“I am always right.”

Since: Oct 09

Former MN Taxpayer

#52 Jan 5, 2011
jcf817 wrote:
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I'm just arguing against your idea that we cannot affect mother nature.
Watering the grass affects Mother Nature. But that does not mean we have Global Warming.
jcf817

Minneapolis, MN

#53 Jan 5, 2011
AntiMelting wrote:
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...does man cause flooding?
Yes.
Archibald

Moatsville, WV

#54 Jan 5, 2011
Poll: Tax hikes on rich the first step toward balancing budget

Increased taxes on high earners should be the first step toward balancing the federal budget, a new poll suggested Monday.

Raising taxes on the rich beats out cuts to defense spending, Medicare and Social Security as U.S. adults' top preference on how to close the deficit, according to a 60 Minutes/Vanity Fair poll.

Sixty-one percent of Americans said that increasing taxes to the wealthy should be the first step toward balancing the budget.

By contrast, 20 percent of respondents preferred cuts to defense spending as the first option, while 4 percent said that cutting Medicare would be the best way to start cutting the deficit. Three percent said they preferred cutting Social Security.

Increased taxes on the wealthy tops those four options even among higher earners who might be most affected by a tax hike, the poll suggested. Fifty-eight percent of respondents making between $50,000 and $100,000 per year rated tax hikes as the best first step to balancing the budget, while 46 percent of those making more than $100,000 said it was their top choice, as well.

The incoming Republican House has expressed an eagerness to address the deficit and mounting U.S. debt. But the fight over tax cuts in the closing weeks of 2010 made clear the GOP isn't ready to address the budget through tax hikes, against which they vigorously fought in the lame-duck Congress.
Yep

Chaska, MN

#55 Jan 6, 2011
Darwinian wrote:
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No, climate does not equal weather.
Prove it.
Yep

Chaska, MN

#56 Jan 6, 2011
El Rushbo Fan wrote:
<quoted text>I'm 52, sorry, don't remember too much about a media frenzy on global cooling. Please enlighten me. I really honestly want to hear about it.
You're probably a little too young to remember, I'm guessing you would have been in high school about that time, but yeah it was what passed for a "frenzy" back then. In the olden days there was no cable tv or internets AND you actually had to have some journalistic talent to write for a paper or magazine so things didn't get so hysterical but there was plenty of coverage of global cooling.

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Since: Jun 08

Woodbury

#57 Jan 6, 2011
Yep wrote:
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Prove it.
Prove that climate is not the same thing as weather? They are not the same by definition. Weather refers to current local conditions, climate refers to long term widespread trends. One particularly hot week in one Minnesota summer does not mean that Minnesota has a hot climate; a day of precipitation in the Mojave does not mean the Mojave has a wet climate. See the difference?
tww

Saint Paul, MN

#58 Jan 6, 2011
Stabby McStab wrote:
Let me guess- global warming?
too many cow farts?

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