Are E- Cig's allowed in school?

Are E- Cig's allowed in school?

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Sam Jones

Natural Bridge, VA

#1 Dec 12, 2010
Well, i'm 18. Of legal age, it has no tobacco and smoke, nicotene patches and gum are allowed, so is nicotene vapor?
let me know.
Bo Endean

Natural Bridge, VA

#2 Dec 12, 2010
We have had the same discussion at the college and the answer is no, they are not allowed. This is because there is a strict no tobacco or tobacco paraphernalia policy. Even though the product has no actual tobacco, the effects (however little they may be) are the same as tobacco products. Also, it does have an emission (even though it is just water vapor) and people would complain and blah blah blah they were not approved. I am going to go on ahead and say that no they would not be allowed around the high school either, since they tend to be more strict in their policies versus UVa-Wise.
Bo Endean

Natural Bridge, VA

#3 Dec 12, 2010
...But I would check because it is a legitimate question.
Sam Jones

Natural Bridge, VA

#4 Dec 12, 2010
alright, because all i know is it's a tobacco free site, if they wanted too outlaw nicotine i say they should put that in the book, but all it says is just no tobacco products.
but i see no harm since it don't have 2nd hand smoke, and you can just put it in your pocket.

but thanks. i'll make sure too ask the principle.
Yeah he is in trouble big

White House, TN

#5 Jan 19, 2011
Sam Jones wrote:
Well, i'm 18. Of legal age, it has no tobacco and smoke, nicotene patches and gum are allowed, so is nicotene vapor?
let me know.
Doubt it since nicotine is a drug!
jjj

Nashville, TN

#6 Jan 19, 2011
Yeah he is in trouble big wrote:
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Doubt it since nicotine is a drug!
tylenol is a drug. so should the nurse get in trouble for giving kids med. for their headaches???? i think not.
nice logic

United States

#7 Jan 19, 2011
jjj wrote:
<quoted text>tylenol is a drug. so should the nurse get in trouble for giving kids med. for their headaches???? i think not.
Wow! That's some interesting logic you're using there, genius. There is a big difference in a nurse giving a student their medications & the situation the OP described. If a student were caught with ANY type of medication, including Tylenol, at school they would be in trouble. Why? Because it's against the rules. Medications have to be turned in to the school nurse/staff & distributed to the student.

By your messed up logic, this person should take their e-cig to the school nurse & go "smoke" it a prescribed times???? Oh my! My head hurts just trying to understand how you came to the conclusion that these two things have anything in common. Then again, that's what I get for trying to rationalize the logic of idiots.
jjj

Nashville, TN

#8 Jan 22, 2011
nice logic wrote:
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Wow! That's some interesting logic you're using there, genius. There is a big difference in a nurse giving a student their medications & the situation the OP described. If a student were caught with ANY type of medication, including Tylenol, at school they would be in trouble. Why? Because it's against the rules. Medications have to be turned in to the school nurse/staff & distributed to the student.
By your messed up logic, this person should take their e-cig to the school nurse & go "smoke" it a prescribed times???? Oh my! My head hurts just trying to understand how you came to the conclusion that these two things have anything in common. Then again, that's what I get for trying to rationalize the logic of idiots.
uhhhh wrong. i have been caught with Tylenol, i was questioned, told the principal of PV what it was and why i had it. and he made nothing of it afterwards. and idiots like you, not me, do not even realize that nicotine IS NOT tobacco. point being, e-cigs is nothing but liquid nicotine. so i guess if they have a problem with e-cigs they should put up a "no nicotine products" sign. dont you think??? how do you like that logic, dumb fuck
nice logic

United States

#9 Jan 22, 2011
Not only do you have a warped sense of logic, you also cannot speak without resorting to cursing. Perhaps you should spend your time in school working on your communications skills, instead of worrying about "smoking". I do happen to know that nicotine is not tobacco. However, nicotine IS a drug & should therefor not be allowed at school. And, if the principal chose not to discipline you for having Tylenol, that is his choice. But, at most schools, you would have been disciplined due to zero-tolerance rules.
Gino Papadapalis

Vinton, VA

#11 Feb 9, 2011
Alright, since all of you are morons here's what I'd say on the topic, presenting only factual observations.

A: the school zones are "Tobacco-Free Areas".
B: E-Cigs contain no tobacco, only synthetic nicotine, which isn't even in ALL varieties of cartridge, and propylene glycol, the chemical used in fog machines.

Also Mr. Endean I have to point out: "Even though the product has no actual tobacco, the effects are the same as tobacco products."

Not true, as inhaling vapor and inhaling smoke are two completely different things. Also take into account the primary reason for public smoking bans: the dreaded second-hand smoke.

Given that this produces NO smoke it stands to reason that there can be no second hand smoke.

So granted that E-Cigs are NOT smoking and NOT a "tobacco product" I personally would say go ahead and do it, then once you eventually get nicked for it explain your case.

“Know thyself.”

Since: Sep 10

Murfreesboro, TN

#12 Feb 9, 2011
If you are a highschool student I would think no, based on the simple fact that it is technically still classified as a cigarette and is promoting "nicotine" an addictive substance. If gum and patches are allowed then it's most probably being viewed as a treatment for addiction and those who use them at school may have doctor's consent because legally you can't even purchase nicotine gum/patches unless you are 18 or older. I wouldn't take the above advice of "go ahead and do it...explain your case." Or else you might get in the same trouble you would for having/smoking cigs at school and face the same consequences.

Gino Papadapalis

Vinton, VA

#13 Feb 9, 2011
Well I am assuming that he's referring to college rather than high school, as he did point out that he was legally 18.
Also, the "go ahead and do it" advice is completely logical.
If you ask and they say "No" and you're caught doing it then you're not being popped for breaking the rules, you're being popped for going against their word.
If you do it when the rule covers such a gray area and then get in trouble you can reasonably argue your way out of it.
Mr Broheim

Moorestown, NJ

#14 Apr 25, 2011
Gino, "Well I am assuming that he's referring to college rather than high school, as he did point out that he was legally 18.
Also, the "go ahead and do it" advice is completely logical.
If you ask and they say "No" and you're caught doing it then you're not being popped for breaking the rules, you're being popped for going against their word.
If you do it when the rule covers such a gray area and then get in trouble you can reasonably argue your way out of it."
I completely agree with all that you have said, i just bought an e-cig yesterday and i am currently a senior in high school. So today do to the info. you have put down, i am going to go into my govt. class and pull it out and ill "argue" my way out of it.
Sam Jones

Christiansburg, VA

#15 May 5, 2011
Well i know countless who dip skoal in school, spit in the heaters and bottles. but when they turn on the heat, it smells pure nasty.
all i'm saying is, if they allowed e cigs in highschool like they do in college, the kids who ARE above the age limit wouldn't be timid and agitated in school.

and i think that if we were allowed to use it, it would be the teachers choice weather you could use the product in school or not.

it's cleaner, safer, and no chance to give you cancer in the long run.

i'd like to see it being allowable in school with the principles "okay" with it if you are above the age of 18.
student

Clayton, NC

#16 Aug 18, 2011
ok will being a smoker i would love to find a way and use an E-cig. but i also look at what the schools would say.

for example: yes the E-cig, is allowed cause of no second-hand smoke, its not tobacco, and you can use it when your 18+

but, schools can say its not allowed cause it is a distraction to students, and though not tobacco its still a drug, and someone can easily pass the E-cig to someone who is not.
Blank

Big Stone Gap, VA

#17 Aug 18, 2011
Bo Endean wrote:
We have had the same discussion at the college and the answer is no, they are not allowed. This is because there is a strict no tobacco or tobacco paraphernalia policy. Even though the product has no actual tobacco, the effects (however little they may be) are the same as tobacco products. Also, it does have an emission (even though it is just water vapor) and people would complain and blah blah blah they were not approved. I am going to go on ahead and say that no they would not be allowed around the high school either, since they tend to be more strict in their policies versus UVa-Wise.
The anti-tobacco PC bunch at work...blah!!! As for UVA-Wise, it is a craphole!!!
TGarret

Murfreesboro, TN

#18 Aug 19, 2011
take it in the bathroom, sit down in a stall and puff away.
Alex

Hampton, VA

#19 Sep 21, 2011
nice logic wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow! That's some interesting logic you're using there, genius. There is a big difference in a nurse giving a student their medications & the situation the OP described. If a student were caught with ANY type of medication, including Tylenol, at school they would be in trouble. Why? Because it's against the rules. Medications have to be turned in to the school nurse/staff & distributed to the student.
By your messed up logic, this person should take their e-cig to the school nurse & go "smoke" it a prescribed times???? Oh my! My head hurts just trying to understand how you came to the conclusion that these two things have anything in common. Then again, that's what I get for trying to rationalize the logic of idiots.
Nicotine is on the same level as the drug caffeine, but do you see soda and energy drinks being banned? No, you don't, so neither should nicotine. Get back in your closet, basement, or wherever it is you trolls live now.
megatron

White House, TN

#20 Oct 2, 2011
lol
Smoker

United States

#21 Oct 7, 2011
My question to those of you who have used E-Cigs...do they work at all to help you quit smoking? I have been wanting to quit for a long time and have tried a couple of times to no avail. Do these things help people quit?

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