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Ill. House Approves Legalizing Same-Sex Civil Unions

There are 51761 comments on the CBS2 story from Nov 30, 2010, titled Ill. House Approves Legalizing Same-Sex Civil Unions. In it, CBS2 reports that:

The Illinois House has approved a measure to legalize civil unions for same-sex couples.

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Spanky

Manhattan, IL

#37642 Feb 15, 2013
sic wrote:
Fox News is not liberal, it's conservative. It's the only news channel where you get the truth. Unlike the Obama news channel's (nbc,cbs,abc,cnn,msnbc,hln.)
Truth according to Fox News and what they believe. They use half truths and then make up wild stories to cause mass hysteria in all the freaks who watch it in an effort to keep them watching.
I love how Fox News watchers always say the other news networks are biased. I hope someday you people wake up and realize that they are the only people reporting those things because they are not true!
shameful

Marion, IL

#37643 Feb 15, 2013
Yum have you ever heard of eternal life? Dont know about you but HELL is some where i want to stay away from it is FOREVER.Read the bible people.
Virgin First Fruit

Alpharetta, GA

#37644 Feb 15, 2013
shameful wrote:
Yum have you ever heard of eternal life? Dont know about you but HELL is some where i want to stay away from it is FOREVER.Read the bible people.
Sorry
.
We're not into unacceptable adult behavior

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#37645 Feb 15, 2013
Marengo Jon wrote:
I'm with Dusty on this one. In spite of all of your verbal ejaculations, what effect does your opinion have on my marriage?
Not unlike Westboro Baptist, you're actually helping our cause.
Is that your grand plan?
Did you hear that even rabidly anti-gay WBC, submitted a brief to the Supreme Court which documents that marriage took place under the written law before the time of Noah?

From their brief: "Another Midrash says that males just didn't sodomize other males, but that they signed ketobot (marriage contracts) legalizing these re-lationships."

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#37646 Feb 15, 2013
Not Yet Equal wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you hear that even rabidly anti-gay WBC, submitted a brief to the Supreme Court which documents that marriage took place under the written law before the time of Noah?
From their brief: "Another Midrash says that males just didn't sodomize other males, but that they signed ketobot (marriage contracts) legalizing these re-lationships."
I had not heard that and thank you for sharing.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#37647 Feb 15, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
At it's most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
Gay couples are the picture of defective failure. Mating behavior gone abusive with NOTHING to show for it.
This is not an opinion, it is simple reality. No vote changed that. Or ever will.
Smile.
Your version of reality is not reflected in any US law. Therefore it is just your personal opinion. Procreation intent or ability has never been a requirement.

No matter how you choose to conceptualize marriage for yourself, legally it is a fundamental right of the individual. While churches may place any restrictions on their own ceremonies they choose, the government can only restrict fundamental rights when a compelling and legitimate justification can be demonstrated.

While procreation has never been a requirement for marriage, even that irrational excuse for discrimination ignores the fact that gay people can and do reproduce, and are raising children either biologically related or adopted. Denial of equal treatment under the law provides nothing to opposite sex couple families. It only harms same sex couple families needlessly.

Marriage is a fundamental right of the individual. The only eligibility requirement is being human. Reasonable restrictions include age, ability to demonstrate informed consent, and not being closely related or currently married. Gay people qualify.

Gay people are asking to be treated equally under the laws, in the remaining states that do not yet recognize their marriages, and by the federal government.

Neither tradition nor gender provides a legitimate governmental interest sufficient for denial of this fundamental right.
Virgin First Fruit

Alpharetta, GA

#37649 Feb 15, 2013
zander714 wrote:
It will be interesting to see what the divorce rate will be. That will be another right that they will get to enjoy too!
Gays have been marrying legally for the last 8 years
http://makeitequal.org/
.
Divorce is extremely rare
Mother Superior

Waterloo, IL

#37650 Feb 15, 2013
Here's what's funny:
I've said the same before.
And you had the same response.
We both look a little foolish now.
Go get'em troll stopper.
The Troll Stopper wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow, I'll bet that reaponse must surely have taxed your intellectual capacity to its very limit!

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#37651 Feb 15, 2013
Dusty Mangina wrote:
<quoted text>
Given your opinion, we still have marriage equality. What will you be doing about that?
'Marriage equity'?

Two people. Anything else?

All I see is an imposter relationship masquerading as a marriage when it is nothing more than a friendship.

Smirk.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#37652 Feb 15, 2013
Marengo Jon wrote:
I'm with Dusty on this one. In spite of all of your verbal ejaculations, what effect does your opinion have on my marriage?
Not unlike Westboro Baptist, you're actually helping our cause.
Is that your grand plan?
You don't have a marriage.

Marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.

That hardly sounds like Westboro...

Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#37653 Feb 15, 2013
Not Yet Equal wrote:
<quoted text>
Your version of reality is not reflected in any US law. Therefore it is just your personal opinion. Procreation intent or ability has never been a requirement.
No matter how you choose to conceptualize marriage for yourself, legally it is a fundamental right of the individual. While churches may place any restrictions on their own ceremonies they choose, the government can only restrict fundamental rights when a compelling and legitimate justification can be demonstrated.
While procreation has never been a requirement for marriage, even that irrational excuse for discrimination ignores the fact that gay people can and do reproduce, and are raising children either biologically related or adopted. Denial of equal treatment under the law provides nothing to opposite sex couple families. It only harms same sex couple families needlessly.
Marriage is a fundamental right of the individual. The only eligibility requirement is being human. Reasonable restrictions include age, ability to demonstrate informed consent, and not being closely related or currently married. Gay people qualify.
Gay people are asking to be treated equally under the laws, in the remaining states that do not yet recognize their marriages, and by the federal government.
Neither tradition nor gender provides a legitimate governmental interest sufficient for denial of this fundamental right.
I have no need to equate a scientific statement with law. It is however reflected in many of the partial quotes you use of SCOTUS.

You are in denial. I make you embarrassed by exposing it

Smile.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#37654 Feb 15, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
I have no need to equate a scientific statement with law. It is however reflected in many of the partial quotes you use of SCOTUS.
You are in denial. I make you embarrassed by exposing it
Smile.
I feel no embarrassment in demonstrating your attempts to justify harming others needlessly through denial of equal treatment under the law, is irrational and based on your personal prejudice.

Nor do I delight in exposing your irrational prejudice. I only bother because the prejudice and discrimination you promote results in real harm to real people.

You still fail to demonstrate any legitimate governmental interest sufficient for denial of the fundamental right of marriage to same gender couples. Clearly, it is you who remains in denial.
mother superior

Waterloo, IL

#37655 Feb 15, 2013
You strengthen the beast by feeding it responses.
Not Yet Equal wrote:
<quoted text>
I feel no embarrassment in demonstrating your attempts to justify harming others needlessly through denial of equal treatment under the law, is irrational and based on your personal prejudice.
Nor do I delight in exposing your irrational prejudice. I only bother because the prejudice and discrimination you promote results in real harm to real people.
You still fail to demonstrate any legitimate governmental interest sufficient for denial of the fundamental right of marriage to same gender couples. Clearly, it is you who remains in denial.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#37657 Feb 15, 2013
mother superior wrote:
You strengthen the beast by feeding it responses.
<quoted text>
My bad.
The sad thing is, I know better, and usually resist.

My fear is that someone who doesn't know better might drop by and think there is merit to the excuses. So every now and then, I feel the need to respond.

I'll also claim the excuse others are feeding it as well, but I know that is a poor one. Even abuse is reinforcement, though I promise my motives were pure. I'll try to do better.
Mojo

Chicago, IL

#37658 Feb 15, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't have a marriage.
Marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
That hardly sounds like Westboro...
Smile.
The Marraige Man has spoke.

Everyone return to your homes.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#37659 Feb 15, 2013
mother superior wrote:
You strengthen the beast by feeding it responses.
<quoted text>
One of the strongest weapons we have is the enemy itself
.
When visitors stop by our chat room and read all the horrible things the snarling GOD people say to us; the visitors quickly become sympathetic to our crusade for better treatment
.
Our approval ratings are approaching an amazing 60% nationwide
.
This message is currently being read by 122 in the Gay Lesbian chat room combined with 269 from the US Politics chat room; so we have a substantial current reader base total of 391 people at this very moment
George

Columbia, IL

#37660 Feb 15, 2013
Why not

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#37661 Feb 16, 2013
Not Yet Equal wrote:
<quoted text>
I feel no embarrassment in demonstrating your attempts to justify harming others needlessly through denial of equal treatment under the law, is irrational and based on your personal prejudice.
Nor do I delight in exposing your irrational prejudice. I only bother because the prejudice and discrimination you promote results in real harm to real people.
You still fail to demonstrate any legitimate governmental interest sufficient for denial of the fundamental right of marriage to same gender couples. Clearly, it is you who remains in denial.
Truth is irrational and prejudicial?

You have yet to give a rational rebuttal to my points. Look at your post. Ad homoan attacks without a single specific rebuttal!

Moreover, you give partial quotes that distort the truth of SCOTUS rulings, and refuse to correct them when asked. It is another response that destroys the moral integrity of your position.

The government does have a legitimate interest in protecting the sole and best birthplace of every other human relationship. It has NO legitimate interest in extending those protections selectively to a friendship while discriminating against numerous other types of friendships.

That is the simple truth.

Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#37662 Feb 16, 2013
Rainbow Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
One of the strongest weapons we have is the enemy itself
.
When visitors stop by our chat room and read all the horrible things the snarling GOD people say to us; the visitors quickly become sympathetic to our crusade for better treatment
.
Our approval ratings are approaching an amazing 60% nationwide
.
This message is currently being read by 122 in the Gay Lesbian chat room combined with 269 from the US Politics chat room; so we have a substantial current reader base total of 391 people at this very moment
If you
believe denying marriage to a relationship
will prevent love

If you
demand any committed relationship
has to be called marriage

If you
claim rights and benefits can only be acquired
by a imposition on marriage

If you
equate the diversity of two genders
with the redundancy of same genders

If you
desecrate the sacred tradition of all major religions
and violate the historic practice of every single culture in history

If you
believe a fundamental change to the building block of society
will have absolutely no affect

If you
think a law can change
the reality of crucial distinctions in relationships

If you
pretend duplicating sexuality
is the same as blending masculinity and femininity

If you
condemn some children to parents of only one gender
and deliberately deny some children one natural parent

If you
ignore the design of sexual union
to manipulate a harmful act

If you
violate evolution's law of reproduction
to equate a genetic dead end

If you
risk the healthiest human relationship
to include one of the unhealthiest

If you
parallel the sole birthplace of every other relationship
with one that can reproduce none

If you
dilute all these things
down to just 'a committed relationship of two people'

Then, and only then, can you equate same-sex unions with marriage.
mahz

Troy, IL

#37663 Feb 16, 2013
No one cares what you think KiMary. You can cry about it all you want ya little bigot, but in a couple days IL will be the 10th state in the union to allow same sex marriage. It won't be long before the other 40 follow. Nothing you can do it about it except die and let the times pass you by. Equality is on the rise everywhere. You can't stop progress.

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