Teen admits intimidating witnesses

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A teenager plead guilty to intimidating witnesses in a case that includes a loose-knit gang accused of burglaries and attempted murder.

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Since: May 08

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May 22, 2008
 
fed-up wrote:
<quoted text>do you know this kid????if not ,what right do you have to judge him ,keep your rude coments to yourself ok,theres a lot about this story you know nothing about ,so hush
Sometimes people make excuses for their loved ones, and this sounds like the case. Birds of a feather flock together they say! And then why was he picked up then? Someone must be associating him with these crimes. Parents and family do not always want to see what is right in front of them. Perhaps he needs a makeover to look more like a bible thumping JW
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#23
May 22, 2008
 
Glassy wrote:
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Sometimes people make excuses for their loved ones, and this sounds like the case. Birds of a feather flock together they say! And then why was he picked up then? Someone must be associating him with these crimes. Parents and family do not always want to see what is right in front of them. Perhaps he needs a makeover to look more like a bible thumping JW
what would you even know about the bible,seems you have no sole at all.I have had it with the all of you out there ,talk all you want if it makes you fell better .but I am moving on ,dont have time for this any more ,god bless you all ....even you glassy ,yep even you .

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May 23, 2008
 
fed-up wrote:
<quoted text>what would you even know about the bible,seems you have no sole at all.I have had it with the all of you out there ,talk all you want if it makes you fell better .but I am moving on ,dont have time for this any more ,god bless you all ....even you glassy ,yep even you .
fed-up you are the rude one,! Get your head out of the hole.

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May 23, 2008
 
fed-up wrote:
<quoted text>what would you even know about the bible,seems you have no sole at all.I have had it with the all of you out there ,talk all you want if it makes you fell better .but I am moving on ,dont have time for this any more ,god bless you all ....even you glassy ,yep even you .
By the way I have soles on my shoes, and a soul that belongs to God.
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May 24, 2008
 

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THERE ARE NO EXCUSES FOR THIS KIND OF CONDUCT, IF SOME ONE ENTERS MY HOME AND TRIES TO KEEP ME HOSTAGE, THAT PERSON WILL DIE...NO QUESTIONS I DONT CARE HOW OLD THEY ARE OR HOW THEY WERE MISTREATED WHILE THEY WERE GROWING UP.. DONT MAKE EXCUSES.. IF YOU DO THE CRIME YOU DO THE TIME, IF YOU ASSOCIATE WITH THESE PEOPLE, YOU ARE GUILTY BY ASSOCIATION, IF YOU DONT REPORT IT, YOU SHOULD DO THE SAME TIME AS THOSE WHO COMMITTED THE ACT..
NO QUESTIONS ASKED.. IF YOUR NOT A CRIMINAL DONT ASSOCIATE WITH CRIMINALS.. IF YOU ASSOCIATE YOU ARE AN ACCESSORY TO THE FACT..
THIS COUNTRY IS HEADED IN THE WRONG DIRECTION FOR ONE REASON ONLY...
GOOD PEOPLE DOING NOTHING...
THINGS LIKE THIS CAN ONLY GO ON .. WHEN GOOD PEOPLE DO NOTHING..
BE THE GOOD PERSON THAT STANDS UP AND SAYS ..HERE ARE THESE ROTTEN PEOPLE WHO HAVE DONE THESE HORRIBLE DEEDS.. AND I AM NOT ONE OF THEM...
CRIME WILL CONTINUE AS GOOD PEOPLE DO NOTHING...
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May 24, 2008
 
stillloveyoucody wrote:
fed-up is right! all you people who have nothing better to do than sit on the computer and bash on kids you know nothing about need to just leave it alone and stop being the ones to judge. if anyone should be allowed to judge them, its their families, friends, and god. none of you other people matter so find something better to do with your lives.
AMEN!!!!...VERY WELL put..

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May 24, 2008
 
fed-up wrote:
<quoted text>do you know this kid????if not ,what right do you have to judge him ,keep your rude coments to yourself ok,theres a lot about this story you know nothing about ,so hush
So, why don't you explain it to us then? You are calling us ignorant because we trust what has been reported, if it hasn't been reported how are we supposed to know any better?

Since: Mar 08

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#29
May 24, 2008
 
Why is it when a kid goes bad everybody is quick to blame the parent(s)? If that be the case i guess i was a half asssssss parent as one went the good road and the other the bad... always asked myself where did i go wrong but both kids made their OWN choices and i did my best to get them to follow the right road . Does anybody believe that at some point kids are going to do as they please;never mind what mom or dad say? It has nothing to do with upbringing it has to do with what the kids Choose to do and peer pressure. Remember that saying " If It Feels Good Do It" thats what kids do as well as some adults. It is human nature maybe the solution is to let the State raise the kids through agencies like Bethany ? N O T !!!!
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#30
May 24, 2008
 
stillloveyoucody wrote:
fed-up is right! all you people who have nothing better to do than sit on the computer and bash on kids you know nothing about need to just leave it alone and stop being the ones to judge. if anyone should be allowed to judge them, its their families, friends, and god. none of you other people matter so find something better to do with your lives.
I know something about him. I know he pleaded guilty to two counts of witness intimidation. I know that if he's willing to plead to that, he's probably actually guilty of much more. I CAN and DO judge him to be a loser.
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May 24, 2008
 
fed-up wrote:
<quoted text>what would you even know about the bible,seems you have no sole at all.I have had it with the all of you out there ,talk all you want if it makes you fell better .but I am moving on ,dont have time for this any more ,god bless you all ....even you glassy ,yep even you .
No sole at all?? Does this mean you lost your shoes??

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May 27, 2008
 
michael g wrote:
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I know something about him. I know he pleaded guilty to two counts of witness intimidation. I know that if he's willing to plead to that, he's probably actually guilty of much more. I CAN and DO judge him to be a loser.
Thank you for your great points! He pled guilty, maybe this would be different if he had plead innocent. Thank you!
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#33
May 31, 2008
 
I believe when you commit a crime that people have every right to judge you. No I don't know any of them that did the break ins-but I had to clean up mess that they left at my place of employment. So I believe that when it affects your community and your place of business that you have every right to be angry and to judge the people that broke into "your" place. And to Grandma maybe you should have offered to come and clean up the messes that we left at businesses and help the business owners get their businesses back to normal!

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Jun 4, 2008
 
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Thank you for your great points! He pled guilty, maybe this would be different if he had plead innocent. Thank you!
I don't know if you know this...but there's a lot of people that are innocent, and will still take plea deals anyways. I know I would, if I was in his position.

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Jun 4, 2008
 
J in Canadian Lakes wrote:
I believe when you commit a crime that people have every right to judge you. No I don't know any of them that did the break ins-but I had to clean up mess that they left at my place of employment. So I believe that when it affects your community and your place of business that you have every right to be angry and to judge the people that broke into "your" place. And to Grandma maybe you should have offered to come and clean up the messes that we left at businesses and help the business owners get their businesses back to normal!
Just so you know...Cody wasn't part of this gang, and he had no part in any of the robberies or home invasions. And for the record, if I had known these other kids were doing this, I would've definitely done something about it. There's a lot people don't know...but I'll tell you one thing, those other kids would've NEVER done these crimes, if it hadn't been for Mr. Good.
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Jun 4, 2008
 
Pray for Cody wrote:
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I don't know if you know this...but there's a lot of people that are innocent, and will still take plea deals anyways. I know I would, if I was in his position.
Well that is yours and his decision. I would never plea guilty to a crime I didn't commit. If he didnt commit the crime and he can prove it later I hope he gets perjury charges. If you dont stand up for yourself how can you ever look yourself in the face?

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J in Canadian Lakes wrote:
I believe when you commit a crime that people have every right to judge you. No I don't know any of them that did the break ins-but I had to clean up mess that they left at my place of employment. So I believe that when it affects your community and your place of business that you have every right to be angry and to judge the people that broke into "your" place. And to Grandma maybe you should have offered to come and clean up the messes that we left at businesses and help the business owners get their businesses back to normal!
I am truly sorry about your business and to all the other business owners. This should've never happened. Maybe if the state would keep a closer eye on former inmates...instead of letting them run around, making friends with troubled teens, while at first convincing them that he's a "good guy" and then turning around on them, and threatening them to help him with his heinous crime spree....well then none of these kids would be awaiting prison sentences right now. But I guess John got what he wanted...I mean, he had first been locked up when he was their age, isn't it painfully obvious that he just wanted these kids to have the same fate as he did? And if you click the link below, you'll see that he was "discharged," he wasn't a parolee, and he wasn't on probation! Look at the things he did! Somebody in the system seriously f*** up...what kind of an idiot would think that a man, spending almost half his life locked up, would be completely rehabilitated by now? I'm not trying to make excuses for the kids...but damn! Somebody really messed up here!

http://www.state.mi.us/mdoc/asp/otis2profile....

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Jun 4, 2008
 
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Well that is yours and his decision. I would never plea guilty to a crime I didn't commit. If he didnt commit the crime and he can prove it later I hope he gets perjury charges. If you dont stand up for yourself how can you ever look yourself in the face?
Here's the thing...Cody was there that night during the shooting, but NOT on his own free will. And for the record, they weren't even his witnesses to intimidate. He wasn't involved in this gang and he never invaded their home with the others. And I know that it would've been the "right thing to do" for Cody to rat on the other kids afterwards or even "risk his own life" to save that couple...but humans respond to fear in all different ways...and however Cody acted that night, was because he feared for his own life. It's human nature to put your own life before the lives of strangers, but there is a law that says that is illegal. And how could he have prevented Tommy from shooting them? What, by jumping in front of the bullets? When it comes down to it, his case is hard to prove, especially when the other kids keep changing their stories because they don't want kidnapping charges on them...but I believe him, he's my fiance. I love him with all my heart. I'd prefer him to be in jail...instead of buried in the ground.
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Jun 4, 2008
 
Aah, I see why you are attempting to try and make everyone think he is a "good guy". Im sorry you got involved in this crap but you made your own choices, just like Cody did. Cody got involved with the wrong people now he gets to deal with the consequences. I have met so many women who are blinded by some wanna be thugs and it seems that you are just another one. Maybe someday you will grow up and start looking for a responsible member of soceity instead of just another statistic.

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Jun 5, 2008
 
Mike wrote:
Aah, I see why you are attempting to try and make everyone think he is a "good guy". Im sorry you got involved in this crap but you made your own choices, just like Cody did. Cody got involved with the wrong people now he gets to deal with the consequences. I have met so many women who are blinded by some wanna be thugs and it seems that you are just another one. Maybe someday you will grow up and start looking for a responsible member of soceity instead of just another statistic.
You do have a point...but sometimes you just don't completely know the people you are hanging out with. We didn't know they were in a gang and were running around doing all this shit. We barely ever hung out with these people. I would've been just as scared as Cody was...I wouldn't know what to do. What would you have done? This whole shooting had nothing to do with him...and yeah, it really sucks that he got caught in the middle of it...and like you said, he has to face the consequences. But really, the law cannot legislate human psychology...it really can't. Cody never wanted nor agreed to be a part of this. So I guess technically, he is an "involuntary accessory." Yeah, he'll learn from this and so will I. We won't trust anybody from now on but each other. And he is not a "thug wannabe," he's actually a real nice respectable young man, who has a lot going for him. And for the record, I do plan on staying with Cody. I will be Mrs. Bodo someday. And it doesn't matter what anybody says, I know the truth, my baby is innocent...but according to the law, he still must do some time for this...and in the end, he will learn to get to know people better before he hangs out with them...and this will make him a better stronger person in the end. And if you have any compassion at all, you will not respond to this by telling me I need to "grow up" or by calling my fiance a "wannabe thug." Shit happens sometimes, people get caught up in bad situations, that are beyond their control, and in the end, they learn from it.

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May 7, 2010
 
Mike wrote:
Aah, I see why you are attempting to try and make everyone think he is a "good guy". Im sorry you got involved in this crap but you made your own choices, just like Cody did. Cody got involved with the wrong people now he gets to deal with the consequences. I have met so many women who are blinded by some wanna be thugs and it seems that you are just another one. Maybe someday you will grow up and start looking for a responsible member of soceity instead of just another statistic.
Mike,
I know you'll probably never read this but I thought it'd be a good way for me to get my feelings out. First off, you were right. Everyone was right. It would've been a stupid choice to remain in a relationship with Cody. I broke up with him a few months after his arrest. But, I stayed in contact with him, supporting him, being a friend, up until last summer. I couldn't do it anymore. It hurt so bad. I wanted to be there for him, I really did. But I realized that I needed to move on with my life because keeping in touch with him would only be a reminder of things I wish to forget. I sent him a Christmas card, explaining why I had quit writing and visiting him. I told him everything, how much it hurts, how angry this has made me and why I just want to forget. I told him I never meant to hurt his feelings and I was sorry for anything I've done to upset him. He wrote me a letter back, telling me he forgives me and understands that I needed time to get over things. He told me how much I inspire him and how he should've listened to me. But most importantly, he apologized for screwing up my life, by the choices he made. While reading his letter, I cried the entire time. I couldn't have saved him, could I? This isn't my fault, I realized. Cody made his own choices. He made the choice to leave me. I shouldn't have to stick around and support him, should I? I was just some girl he dated for 8 months. I have my own life ahead of me, things to look forward to, and goals I'm pursueing. Although his letter meant the world to me, I chose not to write him back. He still calls me, hoping I'll answer, but I never do. I spent so long preaching to people about forgiveness and finding the good in people, yet, I let my own anger build up inside until I shut him out of my life completely. Is this a good thing? I'd like to think it is. I've accomplished many things after this whole ordeal. Soon enough, I'll have my degree in Juvenile Justice, so I can work with kids that grew up like Cody did. Kind of ironic, don't you think? He is my inspiration, even though I refuse to have him as a part of my life anymore. Maybe I'm just stubborn, who knows. Either way, I'm doing really good. You were right, I was blind and I needed to grow up. Cody was a wannabe thug, just like you said. But deep down, there is still something good in each and everyone of us. Even if for some people, it's buried a lot deeper. Actually, it wasn't until recently, that I finally realized that I was ready to be in a relationship again. It's taken me two long years, to accept the fact that what Cody did, was not my fault. I also had to realize that not all my relationships are going to have such a horrible ending and that technically it was my fault, because of the guys I was choosing. I want you to know that I have grown up and found a good man. My life was never meant to be as messed up as it was two years ago. It wasn't the best time in my life and I don't expect anyone to understand. I thought that "saving" Cody would give me some sort of meaning to my life. I thought it would help me forget the terrible things that I was going through in my life. But I was wrong. You can't "save" someone that you're in a relationship with, which is definitely the reason I've chosen to go into the field that I am. I'm going to make a difference. I will help change society. I will give my all to make sure no other child winds up with the same fate as Cody.
Thank you for listening.

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