Is the Columbus music scene legitimate

Is the Columbus music scene legitimate

Created by I Love Music on Jul 8, 2012

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Yes, its varied and alive

No, its dead, not much talent in these parts

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#1973 Mar 19, 2013
Typical wrote:
Open mics lack originality so I wouldn't RECOMMEND them AT ALL.
Obviously, this

<false accusation, a lie and an attempted smears snipped>
I have already proven your accusation to be false, as the old song you claim mine is based on is nothing like mine in any content, and in fact my poem that "Cheshire Bridge Road" came from is based on events from my own life, so there's no way it could have come from another writer.

A comparison of my song with the other song proves this, and proves that your accusation is false, and your posting here is nothing more than another anonymous attempt to smear my name and art:

The facts as I've shown reveal you to be the lying anonymous troll that you are. Here's the post that proves you're lying. It is obvious there's nothing in my lyrics or melody that is the "same" as the classic song you claim to have listened to.

Listen again, and let me know if ANY of my lyrics or singing is in the other song. If so, please post your findings here, rather than just glossing along with false statements of them being "the same".

The facts remain that no, actually the "Cheshire Bridge Road" lyrics and melody are almost nothing like the old standard "Heart & Soul". Here's mine, compared to the older song, and you can see how different they are at a glance:

Cheshire Bridge Road

Early Sunday morning walking with you on Cheshire Bridge Road
passing sound of radio.
Gee, I think it'd be nice to have a couple of cups of coffee with you
and watch morning come.

Walking on Cheshire Bridge Road early Sunday morning with you
barefoot in the dew.
Sunlight burns away until the fog is gone
and brings in the dawn.

Every time I see your face
it reminds me of music.
Every time I see your face
across that bar.

Early Sunday morning walking with you down Cheshire Bridge Road
passing sound of radio.
Still would like to have a couple of cups of coffee with you
and watch morning come.

-Will Dockery (words)/ Geno Woolfolk & Henry Conley (music)

And an excerpt of Frank Loesser's "Heart & Soul", the rest can be found at:

http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/f/frank_loes...

Heart and soul, I fell in love with you,
Heart and soul, the way a fool would do,

Madly...
Because you held me tight,
And stole a kiss in the night...
Heart and soul, I begged to be adored,
Lost control, and tumbled overboard,
Gladly...

That magic night we kissed,
There in the moon mist.

-Frank Loesser

More lyrics:
http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/f/frank_loes...

As you can see, my poem and song is nothing like the older song, though I know the piano riff is reminiscent of the old song, a homage of sorts.

--
Idle Hour Night / Shadowville All-Stars:
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/...

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#1974 Mar 19, 2013
For the new readers here who are not accustomed to the false accusations and other lies made by the anonymous and jealous trolls here on the Topix Forums:

As happens over and over here on the Forums, these anonymous, obsessed trolls create these threads apparently from some obsessed agenda they have to attempt to smear my name, libel, and otherwise misrepresent me. And from further reading, it appears to be a sort of Topix.com phenomenon that some don't seem to be able to deal with as well as I have.

For example:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/us/small-to...

"...a social media Web site called Topix, where they write and read startlingly negative posts, all cloaked in anonymity, about one another. And in Dee’s Place, people are not happy... called Topix a 'cesspool of character assassination.'[...] In rural America, older, poorer remote population lagged the rest of the country in embracing the Internet, the growing use of social media is raising familiar concerns about bullying and privacy... hubs of unsubstantiated gossip, stirring widespread resentment in communities where ties run deep, memories run long and anonymity is a novel concept.'Something about rural culture seems to make people want to have conversations in public,' Topix, a site lightly trafficked in cities, enjoys a dedicated and growing following across the Ozarks, Appalachia and much of the rural South, establishing an unexpected niche in communities of a few hundred or few thousand people..."

And, of course, there's a difference between free speech and libel. The posts made here and elsewhere on Topix.com by the trolls you asked about generally tend to fall into the latter category.

--
Music & poetry from Will Dockery & Friends:
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#1975 Mar 19, 2013
Denise D wrote:
Interesting poll
That it continues to be... week in, week out!

--
Music & poetry from Will Dockery & Friends:
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#1976 Mar 20, 2013
Rusty wrote:
With over 600 videos and countless hours, I seriously doubt that anyone here took too much time to check it out. If you did, you would find much talent.
Indeed... with more talent added every week!

--
"Idle Hour Night" / Shadowville All-Stars 2013:
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/...
Everett

Opelika, AL

#1978 Mar 21, 2013
Little Rock Jock wrote:
After listening to the garbage music posted here and if this is the best you folks got then I gotta vote BAD. Gotta be honest
Seems like the votes agree with you as do all the posters posting here, except of course that one guy.
I'll weigh in and say that if that guy who post all this stuff on here is representative of what your music scene is then I vote that its bad too, real bad.

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#1979 Mar 21, 2013
Everett wrote:
<quoted text>

Seems like the votes agree with you as do all the posters posting here, except of course
Except of course almost 2000 voters who voted Yes, in favor of the local music scene.

That's a significant number, in my opinion.

--
Twilight Girl, written by Will Dockery & Henry Conley:
http://youtu.be/BYETTK16jQI

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#1980 Mar 21, 2013
The fact remains that, love it or hate it, the Columbus-Phenix City music scene isn't going away, and in fact grows stronger despite the lack of support from the "professionals" downtown.

For another example, here's this particularly strong set from many of the best of the local performers, including me on a couple of the songs, the tribute show to our friend Clyde Baker, a singer-songwriter who suddenly passed away last year:

http://youtu.be/HON4gaacGsU

"Seems To Be No Time", written by Basil Fitzpatrick originally sang by Clyde Baker, vocal interpretation by Will Dockery / "Bang A Gong" written by Marc Bolan, vocal by Will Dockery / "Nothing & Nothing" written by Clyde Baker, vocal Basil Fitzpatrick / "Tonight Is Mine" written by Clyde Baker, Vocal by Derundo Jenkins / "White Rabbit" written by Grace Slick, vocal by Gini Davidson / "Gloria" written by Van Morrison, vocal by Dan Davidson.

Again, thanks for your time and perspective, and have a nice night.
Smiths Station Panthers

Pittsview, AL

#1981 Mar 22, 2013
I really don't think anyone wants it to go away.
From what I have read on here and seen personally is most would like it to mature.
The problem is that open mic nights and amateur hours do not a music scene make. We have far to many amateur musicians thinking they are much better and more accomplished than they really are.
Just take a sampling of the much ballyhooed music posted here and you can see it.
I don't mean to slam anyone or hurt feeling but unfortunately, this is the reality of the Columbus Music scene.
I see what Josh and others are doing but I think they are fighting a losing battle against the locals who seem to want to be everything instead of staying in their well worn niche.

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#1984 Mar 22, 2013
Smiths Station Panthers wrote:
I really don't think anyone wants it to go away.
From what I have read on here and seen personally is most would like it to mature.
The problem is that open mic nights and amateur hours do not a music scene make. We have far to many amateur musicians thinking they are much better and more accomplished than they really are.
Just take a sampling of the much ballyhooed music posted here and you can see it.
I don't mean to slam anyone or hurt feeling but unfortunately, this is the reality of the Columbus Music scene.
I see what Josh and others are doing but I think they are fighting a losing battle against the locals who seem to want to be everything instead of staying in their well worn niche.
Well, sure... we want it all and we want it now!

--
Music & poetry from Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars:
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery

Since: Dec 12

Valley, AL

#1985 Mar 22, 2013
What Columbus needs is a real deal 2-day music festival with a great lineup...
...
......
.........
:D
Larry

Atlanta, GA

#1986 Mar 22, 2013
Open mic karaoke is not a music scene.
Columbus is chock full of amateur "Don't quit your day job" music players that dominate the talk here and elsewhere. People think that's all y'all are about.

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#1987 Mar 22, 2013
Larry wrote:
Open mic karaoke is not a music scene.
Columbus is chock full of amateur "Don't quit your day job" music players that dominate the talk here and elsewhere. People think that's all y'all are about.
Well first off, larry, you need to understand that Karaoke and open mic performers are not interchangeable.

Most of the open mic performers are songwriters who create their own material, and all use instrument, not backing tracks.

Karaoke is singers who sing along with tracks of hit and classic tunes, none of the material is original, and none is perormed by the performers.

Strange and ignorant mistake, I take it you've never even seen an open mic show, Larry?

--
Music & poetry from Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars:
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#1988 Mar 22, 2013
josh_green wrote:
What Columbus needs is a real deal 2-day music festival with a great lineup...
...
......
.........
:D
Well, we have a great festival known as Hogbottom... heh.

Hogbottom 2013 schedule / Fort Mitchell, AL / April 27th

http://picyou.com/PUdlKC

Here's an update on that event, on the weekend of April 27th, from Hogbottom founder Dave Patillo:

"The action wear has been ordered, the line-up has been cast, and the new grill is in the works. It's time to clean out your coolers, break out the lawn chairs, dust off your instruments, and fluff up your sleeping bags. Believe it or not the 8th Annual Hog Bottom is just five short weeks away! The schedule for the day is below and attached and now includes 21 bands! This year we will be starting a bit earlier (10:45 am) and going until 10:00 in the evening.
I have also attached a revised flyer. I for one can't wait and I look forward to seeing you there..."

--
Music & poetry from Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars:
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery
josh green

Columbus, GA

#1989 Mar 22, 2013
I meant a festival with national headliners. Hogbottom is for a great cause though so I'm not knocking it.
Druid Hills Commando

United States

#1990 Mar 22, 2013
Larry wrote:
Open mic karaoke is not a music scene.
Columbus is chock full of amateur "Don't quit your day job" music players that dominate the talk here and elsewhere. People think that's all y'all are about.
Open Mic Karaoke, that's funny there. I don't care who you are. That's funny.
And not far off the mark either.

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#1991 Mar 22, 2013
Smiths Station Panthers wrote:
I don't mean to slam anyone or hurt feeling
Exactly, panther, which is why your posts obviously always stand and the Topix.com moderators see nothing objectionable in your writings.

As the statement with each post goes, bottom line, "Be Polite".

"Please note by clicking on "Post Comment" you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator..."

Since the statements here on a public Forum it doesn't matter who you are posting to, you're posting to us all, and to the internet in general. I know you understand that.

And either way, my response if to ALL who post here, and obviously is based on the Topix.com policy towards the personal attacks, slanders, libel and smearing made by the anonymous trolls:

There's a difference in "making fun" and outright lying, as you know... and any statements about me that you mentioned would have fallen into a lying attempt to smear me and my name.

I see things vanish that I see no explanation of, maybe they are reported, or maybe the moderator has other methods of getting rid of the trollish elements.

I do know that Topix.com made national headlines over some of the nasty personal attacks and lies, libel, name smearing and other offensive and abusive acts, so maybe they stay on top of things better now for that reason:

As happens over and over here on the Forums, these anonymous, obsessed trolls create these threads apparently from some obsessed agenda they have to attempt to smear my name, libel, and otherwise misrepresent me. And from further reading, it appears to be a sort of Topix.com phenomenon that some don't seem to be able to deal with as well as I have.

For example:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/us/small-to...

"...a social media Web site called Topix, where they write and read startlingly negative posts, all cloaked in anonymity, about one another. And in Dee’s Place, people are not happy... called Topix a 'cesspool of character assassination.'[...] In rural America, older, poorer remote population lagged the rest of the country in embracing the Internet, the growing use of social media is raising familiar concerns about bullying and privacy... hubs of unsubstantiated gossip, stirring widespread resentment in communities where ties run deep, memories run long and anonymity is a novel concept.'Something about rural culture seems to make people want to have conversations in public,' Topix, a site lightly trafficked in cities, enjoys a dedicated and growing following across the Ozarks, Appalachia and much of the rural South, establishing an unexpected niche in communities of a few hundred or few thousand people..."

And, of course, there's a difference between free speech and libel. The posts made here and elsewhere on Topix.com by the trolls you asked about generally tend to fall into the latter category.

--
Music & poetry from Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars:
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#1992 Mar 22, 2013
Druid Hills Commando wrote:
<quoted text>

Open Mic Karaoke, that's funny there. I don't care who you are. That's funny.
But not accurate, and in fact a willful misrepresentation of the facts of what the difference between original songwriting and performance and Karaoke is... which are completely different art forms.

As I wrote the poster calling himself "Larry" yesterday:

Well first off, Larry, you need to understand that Karaoke and open mic performers are not interchangeable.

Most of the open mic performers are songwriters who create their own material, and all use instrument, not backing tracks.

Karaoke is singers who sing along with tracks of hit and classic tunes, none of the material is original, and none is perormed by the performers.

Strange and ignorant mistake, I take it you've never even seen an open mic show, Larry?

--
Music & poetry from Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars:
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#1993 Mar 22, 2013
josh green wrote:
I meant a festival with national headliners. Hogbottom is for a great cause though so I'm not knocking it.
I think you were still living in Atlanta back in the days when The Loft had their Backyard Boogies in the Courtyard back in the 1990s, Josh?

As Buddy, Sam and the other Loft old timers about those, at least it would be great to see something like that brought back.

--
Music & poetry from Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars:
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery

Since: Dec 12

Valley, AL

#1995 Mar 23, 2013

Since: Dec 12

Valley, AL

#1996 Mar 23, 2013
Will Dockery wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you were still living in Atlanta back in the days when The Loft had their Backyard Boogies in the Courtyard back in the 1990s, Josh?
As Buddy, Sam and the other Loft old timers about those, at least it would be great to see something like that brought back.
:)

But way bigger

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