Arrest made in Citrus County homicide

[HALEY]

I am a very good person actually, I don't define myself by the people that I hang out with. I don't do drugs, nor sell them. Ben was just trouble at that point in his life and chose the wrong path. It's just a shame to me that he had to learn it was so wrong by being shot in the head. I understand I guess what people are saying about thinking drug dealers are bad people, and that's fine at this point people have their right to their own opinion. But, just do me a favor and before you judge someone who is dead think about the fact that you didn't get to know him first. He had a great heart, great personality and although he wasn't making good decisions for himself, he always gave me the best advice and kept me on my feet.

[martin warmer]

where muzzi is going. bearing in mind what a pretty boy he is. oh what joy..he will be able to feel every inch of pain.so when these lovely big boys take him and his eyes are popping out of his head all the while screaming for his mommy,i hope he thinks about what put him there.
may his nightmare begin.

maybe now ben,s family can find some peace.
god bless you allx

[flbadcatowner]

HALEY wrote:

I am a very good person actually, I don't define myself by the people that I hang out with. I don't do drugs, nor sell them. Ben was just trouble at that point in his life and chose the wrong path. It's just a shame to me that he had to learn it was so wrong by being shot in the head. I understand I guess what people are saying about thinking drug dealers are bad people, and that's fine at this point people have their right to their own opinion. But, just do me a favor and before you judge someone who is dead think about the fact that you didn't get to know him first. He had a great heart, great personality and although he wasn't making good decisions for himself, he always gave me the best advice and kept me on my feet.

Hanging around dug dealers amounts to condoning that kind of illegal behaviour. Have you ever considered that a drug pusher has a supplier who would not hesitate to kill anyone who posed a threat to his illegal enterprise? Recently, policemen were assasinated in Mexico in retaliation for the arrest of high ranking drug cartel members. You seem to be calling Ben's drug dealing a minor lapse of judgment. You seriously need a reality check. Have you ever heard the saying, birds of a feather flock together? Drugs(including marijuana) can destroy lives, not only of the users, but also their loved ones as well. Even though I speak this way, I am sorry that Ben got killed.

[flbadcatowner]

Lauren Ogen wrote:

and to add on to haileys comment and the idiot up there brandon and leave julie alone. BEN did NOT die because of drugs there were other motives behind it, a drug was just the way that he knew he could get ben alone, he had been called ben with ridiculous amounts of money 57,000$ im sorry but what 17 year old kid in citrus county has that kind of money, and he was the last person to see ben I PUT CHRIS IN JAIL I tipped off the cops that it was him and the fucker was at home sleeping in his bed I HAD TO SEE A EFFING PICTURE OF THE LOVE OF MY LIFE WITH A EFFING BULLET HOLE IN HIS EFFING HEAD that fucker deserves to rot in jail for the rest of his life, he did it but i dont think he was alone no one is attacking or ganging up on you people but stop saying things WHEN YOU CLEARLY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE TRUE STORY IS. ben didnt deserve to die and honestly i could blow up chris muzzys house with his whole family in it and not have a care in the world , Mike V and Nick M deserve to be there right with him because they are just as much to blame for bens death without them there would have been no first shooting and NO second shooting, your all fucking idiots dont give your opinion when you dont know the whole story dont say someone deserved it or what happens happens WHEN YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE PEOPLE WHO LOST BEN HAVE GONE THROUGH.

I am sorry about your loss. I lost a brother due to drug and alcohol abuse. I do have one question. Did you ever try to convince Ben that he should stop selling drugs? If not, then you ought not to condemn those who have had less than pleasant memories of Ben. It appears that Ben's likability was somewhat less than universal among those who knew him.

[HALEY]

I've come to the point where you can say what you wanna say. I don't need to defend myself anymore! I know how I feel and I know the side of Ben that I knew and loved. Like I said, I don't think that it's OKAY to sell drugs or do them, and whatever.... You can think birds of a feather flock together, but I've never sold a drug, done a drug or been near them. He did what he did on his own time and didn't bring me or his loved ones around them. Unforuntatly, it's true that we have to suffer due to the mistake he made but I forgive him because he was naive and didn't know what he was getting himself into . PEOPLE DO MAKE MISTAKES YA KNOW!! Some worse than others. I don't care what you say anymore, continue with your words and just because you're older doesn't mean you're wiser.

[flbadcatowner]

HALEY wrote:

I've come to the point where you can say what you wanna say. I don't need to defend myself anymore! I know how I feel and I know the side of Ben that I knew and loved. Like I said, I don't think that it's OKAY to sell drugs or do them, and whatever.... You can think birds of a feather flock together, but I've never sold a drug, done a drug or been near them. He did what he did on his own time and didn't bring me or his loved ones around them. Unforuntatly, it's true that we have to suffer due to the mistake he made but I forgive him because he was naive and didn't know what he was getting himself into . PEOPLE DO MAKE MISTAKES YA KNOW!! Some worse than others. I don't care what you say anymore, continue with your words and just because you're older doesn't mean you're wiser.

I must take exception to your assertion that you seem to think that you are wiser than I am in spite of your youth. When I was your age, I too hung around with people who were a bad influence on me and it nearly cost me my life once. It also got me started using drugs for a brief time. In retrospect, I realize that my "friends" were not such good friends after all and I wish I had never associated with them. Fortunately, I came to my senses and sought out more wholesome companionship before something really bad happenned. Hanging around with the wrong crowd can be dangerous. I am saying this for your own good as I speak from experience. My youngest brother is dead in part to his association with the wrong crowd. I hope I am wrong, but you seem to be in denial about Ben. The drug culture leaves many dead people behind including users, pushers, law enforcement officers, and innocent people caught in the crossfire. Whether you like it or not, fair or unfair, people will judge you by the company you keep. While no one is perfect, you have to draw a line somewhere. I am sorry that Ben had to die like this, but he would most likely be alive if he had taken a different path in his life.

[martin warmer]

flbadcatowner wrote:

<quoted text> I must take exception to your assertion that you seem to think that you are wiser than I am in spite of your youth. When I was your age, I too hung around with people who were a bad influence on me and it nearly cost me my life once. It also got me started using drugs for a brief time. In retrospect, I realize that my "friends" were not such good friends after all and I wish I had never associated with them. Fortunately, I came to my senses and sought out more wholesome companionship before something really bad happenned. Hanging around with the wrong crowd can be dangerous. I am saying this for your own good as I speak from experience. My youngest brother is dead in part to his association with the wrong crowd. I hope I am wrong, but you seem to be in denial about Ben. The drug culture leaves many dead people behind including users, pushers, law enforcement officers, and innocent people caught in the crossfire. Whether you like it or not, fair or unfair, people will judge you by the company you keep. While no one is perfect, you have to draw a line somewhere. I am sorry that Ben had to die like this, but he would most likely be alive if he had taken a different path in his life.

STOP TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. SPOUTING OFF JUST FOR THE SAKE OF IT SHOWS YOU ARE ELDERLY, BITTER AND USUALLY QUITE UNFULLFILLED, LEAVE THE YOUNG TO THEMSELVES. THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU COULD HAVE DONE FOR YOUR OWN FAMILY.
REMEMBER THE SAYING. HIM WITHOUT SIN THROW THE FIRST STONE. SO SHUT UP AND GO AWAY

[flbadcatowner]

martin warmer wrote:

<quoted text>STOP TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. SPOUTING OFF JUST FOR THE SAKE OF IT SHOWS YOU ARE ELDERLY, BITTER AND USUALLY QUITE UNFULLFILLED, LEAVE THE YOUNG TO THEMSELVES. THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU COULD HAVE DONE FOR YOUR OWN FAMILY.
REMEMBER THE SAYING. HIM WITHOUT SIN THROW THE FIRST STONE. SO SHUT UP AND GO AWAY

This post fits in well the the ignorance that seems to prevail on this subject. I am hardy bitter and unfulfilled. I may be getting older, but that does not mean I am detached from reality. I have seen firsthand the damage that drugs can do. I hope that you would have an open mind to someone who has more experience in life. I learned a lot of good values from older people when I was young like you. My motive is not to throw stones, but to warn about the dangers and results of drug use. If you think that discouraging drug use is bad, it is you that has the problem and not me. Let me add one more negative aspect of the drug dealing trade. Many homes are burglarized, and people are robbed at gunpoint and sometimes killed by those who need money to buy drugs. If I have led one person from the drug culture with my postings, my time and affort was worth it. Let me say two things: Drug dealers are not nice, wonderful people, and they do no favors to society with their drug selling. One final thought: You falsely characterized me as bitter and unfulfilled which means that you are talking about thing you know nothing about. That qualifies you as a hypocrite.

[martin warmer]

flbadcatowner wrote:

<quoted text>This post fits in well the the ignorance that seems to prevail on this subject. I am hardy bitter and unfulfilled. I may be getting older, but that does not mean I am detached from reality. I have seen firsthand the damage that drugs can do. I hope that you would have an open mind to someone who has more experience in life. I learned a lot of good values from older people when I was young like you. My motive is not to throw stones, but to warn about the dangers and results of drug use. If you think that discouraging drug use is bad, it is you that has the problem and not me. Let me add one more negative aspect of the drug dealing trade. Many homes are burglarized, and people are robbed at gunpoint and sometimes killed by those who need money to buy drugs. If I have led one person from the drug culture with my postings, my time and affort was worth it. Let me say two things: Drug dealers are not nice, wonderful people, and they do no favors to society with their drug selling. One final thought: You falsely characterized me as bitter and unfulfilled which means that you are talking about thing you know nothing about. That qualifies you as a hypocrite.

stop spouting and go away. let the family and friends of ben have their time to grieve and heal.
if you want to help someone the do it through a charity and not a soap box

[flbadcatowner]

martin warmer wrote:

<quoted text>stop spouting and go away. let the family and friends of ben have their time to grieve and heal.
if you want to help someone the do it through a charity and not a soap box

I can not stay silent while you and others try to whitewash the curse of drug dealing. I too am sorry about Ben having die like this, and I do feel for his family. I also feel for his killer's family who sincerely tried to raise him in the right way. For your information, I was on the jury that convicted Ben's killer of first degree murder.

[Haley]

I'm not in denial that Ben was going down the wrong path but there is only so much a friend can do to help. It's not like I would ride along w/ him when he was doing something I didn't agree w/ and he would never put me in a situation that could put my life in danger, Like I said.. he did that on his own time. I shouldn't have to repeat my self over and over to get my point across. I'm not saying that I think I'm the smartest teenager on the block but I am smart. And just because I was friends with him doesn't mean that I am truely a bad person. Ben made me smile, he kept me on my toes and never did wrong to ANYONE. I can't defend him as much as he would defend himself and he KNOWS he wasn't doing good for himself and if he was here, he'd be the first to tell you. But, we can't change the past and we can't get Ben to stop going down the path because unforuntatly, a shot gun to the head did that. I miss him, point. blank. period! & I won't EVER agree to drug use or selling it. But I still love Ben w/ all my heart and that'll never change.

[flbadcatowner]

Haley wrote:

I'm not in denial that Ben was going down the wrong path but there is only so much a friend can do to help. It's not like I would ride along w/ him when he was doing something I didn't agree w/ and he would never put me in a situation that could put my life in danger, Like I said.. he did that on his own time. I shouldn't have to repeat my self over and over to get my point across. I'm not saying that I think I'm the smartest teenager on the block but I am smart. And just because I was friends with him doesn't mean that I am truely a bad person. Ben made me smile, he kept me on my toes and never did wrong to ANYONE. I can't defend him as much as he would defend himself and he KNOWS he wasn't doing good for himself and if he was here, he'd be the first to tell you. But, we can't change the past and we can't get Ben to stop going down the path because unforuntatly, a shot gun to the head did that. I miss him, point. blank. period! & I won't EVER agree to drug use or selling it. But I still love Ben w/ all my heart and that'll never change.

I am not calling you a bad person. All I was saying is that hanging around with the wrong people is not always the wisest choice. When I was 18, a "friend" encouraged me to drive from New Jersey into New York where the legal age to purchase alcohol was 18 (it was 21 in N.J.). After he, another friend, and I had had split 2 sixpacks between us, I got high and lost my inhibitions and started driving recklessly fast. On a curve, I lost control of the car and flipped it over. By some miracle, none of us were killed or critically injured I only received a whiplash injury to the neck in addition to a few minor cuts and abrasions. The friend who encouraged me to get the beer only got a few minor cuts and abrasions while the other friend received a broken collarbone and a slightly cracked vertebrae. We were all X-rayed at the hospital and were teated and released. I missed a few days of work and the most seriously injured friend missed about a month of school. My own personal experience over 40 years ago with prompted me to warn of the dangers of being with the wrong people. It wasn't until I became a Christian believer about four years later that I stopped seeing him as a regular friend. I became more careful after the accident, but that friend still would encourage me to do things that could have gotten me into trouble. After I downgraded my friendship with him (my new Christian lifestyle badly conflicted with his more wild lifestyle, things did get much better for me. I don't want to sound like I am preaching at you. I do care about what happens to you in the future and I hope it is not bad.

[Haley]

I keep to myself these days anyways, I don't like to drink & I surely don't smoke. I'm a good kid unlike most. I work everyday, I graduated highschool and I'm going to college to do Ultrasound. I've never made a decision like that anyways because I would absolutely never get behind the wheel drunk! But, that's completely irrelevant to what happened here. He didn't put me in danger, and never encouraged me to do bad things! Like I said Ben would never let me get hurt. This isn't about me really, it's about him. I don't really have much more to say except I miss him and that'll live on.

[Mark Lunsford]

Sold drugs now paid his fee! LOL! rotflmao!

[HALEY]

I don't see how it's funny, but oh well. You can be immature :)

[flbadcatowner]

WEST wrote:

I don't know Ben or Muzzi or Julie. I heard bout case from a jurist. They said murder was over pot. So people we need to demand the legalization of marijuana like Arnold the terminator wants, to put an end to THAT part of the drug wars!

Legalizing marijuana would never end the drug violence. There would certainly be organized crime involvement in the trade if it were made legal to smoke and distribute cannibis. There is a definite relationship between organized crime and body counts.

[flbadcatowner]

I have made a number of posts on this forum. This particular post is not specifically aimed at anyone in particular. I mentioned in an earlier post that Illegally procuring alcohol earned me a close call with death as a teenager. Anyone who saw the condition of my car after the wreck would have wondered how any of us got out alive, let alone avoiding life threatening injuries. I foolishly got involved with drug use in the late 60's when I was in the military. When my suppliers and fellow users got investigated, I was falsely accused of diming on them to the C.I.D. My life was threatened over this accuasation. My commanding officer told my accuser that I has nothing to do with the investigation and told that individual that he had enough evidence to have him court martialed on his drug involvement. He did back off after that. My advice is to avoid the drug scene like the plague. When Ben Fee was shot at a while before his murder, if any of his friends had been with him at that time, they could have easily been struck with a bullet meant for Ben. Please listen to someone who has been there and avoid drugs like rabies, venomous snakes, and A.I.D.S.

[Josh Crill]

I got arrested in citrus county now im have done 16 months in jail Im looking forward to returning to society.

[rachel]

i miss you ben

[Mark Lunsford]

Smoke some turds in Hell!!!