CA Proposition 23 - Global Warming

Created by CitizenTopix on Oct 12, 2010

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RiccardoFire

Elk Grove, CA

#6234 Nov 12, 2012
Pete-o wrote:
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The other strange thing is by addressing Climate Change we can lower our energy dependency, and advance new technologies while slowing climate change.
You never hear why that is a bad idea. You only hear we have to drill for oil here, but they don't understand that will do nothing because that oil goes on the world market, unless we nationalize, which would be Socialist, irony.
Are you now admitting it's a hoax to lower our energy dependency? Do you really think our climate is at a point that it's that fragile? lol..If you want to talk clean air and pollution for people's health, that is another issue, but don't use it to fool people into thinking we need to cool the earth and by driving less it will do that. lol...CLIMATE IS ALWAYS CHANGING.
RiccardoFire

Elk Grove, CA

#6235 Nov 12, 2012
Pete-o wrote:
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Already answered your question a few posts back. The Earth is warming AND acidity is a problem.
I asked who wrote the article? was it gore?

and I asked: Either the earth is not warming or there is no acidity problem. What is it? It can't be both. because warmer water would outgas CO2. It is only the present situation where CO2 levels are increasing WITHOUT any temperature rise that could theoretically cause a problem.

So go back and watch the movie again, what did Gore say?

Want to know why Nobel Laureate Al Gore likely doesn't want to debate any of the myriad of scientists and politicians that have challenged him to such a tête-à-tête regarding his manmade global warming theories?

Could it possibly be because Gore was a terrible science student, and clearly never excelled at anything relating to what folks in Norway and in the media consider him to be so expert at?

Al Gore Got a D in Natural Sciences at Harvard

Gore, who flunked out of both law school and divinity school (how does one flunk out of divinity school?), is now a self-styled scientific film maker

Since: Jan 08

San Mateo, CA

#6236 Nov 12, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Are you now admitting it's a hoax to lower our energy dependency? Do you really think our climate is at a point that it's that fragile? lol..If you want to talk clean air and pollution for people's health, that is another issue, but don't use it to fool people into thinking we need to cool the earth and by driving less it will do that. lol...CLIMATE IS ALWAYS CHANGING.
No it's not hoax, but they go hand in hand.

Since: Jan 08

San Mateo, CA

#6237 Nov 12, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>I asked who wrote the article? was it gore?
and I asked: Either the earth is not warming or there is no acidity problem. What is it? It can't be both. because warmer water would outgas CO2. It is only the present situation where CO2 levels are increasing WITHOUT any temperature rise that could theoretically cause a problem.
So go back and watch the movie again, what did Gore say?
Want to know why Nobel Laureate Al Gore likely doesn't want to debate any of the myriad of scientists and politicians that have challenged him to such a tête-à-tête regarding his manmade global warming theories?
Could it possibly be because Gore was a terrible science student, and clearly never excelled at anything relating to what folks in Norway and in the media consider him to be so expert at?
Al Gore Got a D in Natural Sciences at Harvard
Gore, who flunked out of both law school and divinity school (how does one flunk out of divinity school?), is now a self-styled scientific film maker
What's up with you and Gore? He's not the one doing these studies. He's not part of this discussion.
Rethumpedlicans

Anderson, CA

#6238 Nov 12, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>I asked who wrote the article? was it gore?
and I asked: Either the earth is not warming or there is no acidity problem. What is it? It can't be both. because warmer water would outgas CO2. It is only the present situation where CO2 levels are increasing WITHOUT any temperature rise that could theoretically cause a problem.
So go back and watch the movie again, what did Gore say?
Want to know why Nobel Laureate Al Gore likely doesn't want to debate any of the myriad of scientists and politicians that have challenged him to such a tête-à-tête regarding his manmade global warming theories?
Could it possibly be because Gore was a terrible science student, and clearly never excelled at anything relating to what folks in Norway and in the media consider him to be so expert at?
Al Gore Got a D in Natural Sciences at Harvard
Gore, who flunked out of both law school and divinity school (how does one flunk out of divinity school?), is now a self-styled scientific film maker
what exactly does that prove??

kennedy got a D as well.

ill bet GWBush college records are all straight A's ?? huh??

yours??

I got an A in freshman english??

as you can see?? I dont always use what I learned??

mostly because, you guys are on a grade school level of learning( with regards to ethics mostly).
Rethumpedlicans

Anderson, CA

#6239 Nov 12, 2012
Pete-o wrote:
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What's up with you and Gore? He's not the one doing these studies. He's not part of this discussion.
it is one of of his default whipping boys.....

like the 47% moochers who vote democrat.....(51 %)my mistake.

kinda vague, but recognizable just the same.

they are buzz words and talking points with no real substance...
RiccardoFire

Elk Grove, CA

#6240 Nov 12, 2012
Pete-o wrote:
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What's up with you and Gore? He's not the one doing these studies. He's not part of this discussion.
Then why don't you reveal the source? kind of suspicious.
RiccardoFire

Elk Grove, CA

#6241 Nov 12, 2012
The desire to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it
If you doubt the arrogance [of the global warming crowd, you haven't seen that Newsweek cover story that declared the global warming debate over. Consider: If Newton's laws of motion could, after 200 years of unfailing experimental and experiential confirmation, be overthrown, it requires religious fervor to believe that global warming -- infinitely more untested, complex and speculative -- is a closed issue.
RiccardoFire

Elk Grove, CA

#6242 Nov 12, 2012
ocean acidification is a scientific impossibility. Henry's Law mandates that warming oceans will outgas CO2 to the atmosphere (as the UN's own documents predict it will), making the oceans less acid. Also, more CO2 would increase calcification rates. No comprehensive, reliable measurement of worldwide oceanic acid/base balance has ever been carried out: therefore, there is no observational basis for the computer models' guess that acidification of 0.1 pH units has occurred in recent decades
RiccardoFire

Elk Grove, CA

#6243 Nov 12, 2012
seawater has a pH around 8.1, it will take an awful lot of CO2 it to even make the water neutral (pH=7), let alone acidic (pH less than 7)
RiccardoFire

Elk Grove, CA

#6244 Nov 12, 2012
There goes another beautiful theory about to be murdered by a brutal gang of facts. lol...
Rethumpedlicans

Anderson, CA

#6246 Nov 12, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
There goes another beautiful theory about to be murdered by a brutal gang of facts. lol...
which one is that??

the theory that that the oceans cant be acidified??

that is a pretty big "theory" since anything can theorhectically be acidified, if you add enough of a compound that acidifies it...

like carbon to sea water...
Rethumpedlicans

Anderson, CA

#6247 Nov 12, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
ocean acidification is a scientific impossibility. Henry's Law mandates that warming oceans will outgas CO2 to the atmosphere (as the UN's own documents predict it will), making the oceans less acid. Also, more CO2 would increase calcification rates. No comprehensive, reliable measurement of worldwide oceanic acid/base balance has ever been carried out: therefore, there is no observational basis for the computer models' guess that acidification of 0.1 pH units has occurred in recent decades
hmmm..........

the second law of thermodynamics is supposed to be a "mandate as well"

people have been breaking it for centuries..
RiccardoFire

Elk Grove, CA

#6248 Nov 12, 2012
Rethumpedlicans wrote:
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which one is that??
the theory that that the oceans cant be acidified??
that is a pretty big "theory" since anything can theorhectically be acidified, if you add enough of a compound that acidifies it...
like carbon to sea water...
lol.....and I mean lol....
RiccardoFire

Elk Grove, CA

#6249 Nov 12, 2012
Rethumpedlicans wrote:
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hmmm..........
the second law of thermodynamics is supposed to be a "mandate as well"
people have been breaking it for centuries..
lol..funny how you know then Scientists. I know I don't, that's why I read and post what they write and say. Dude...stick to talking about obama and moochelle.
Nut Norquist

La Puente, CA

#6250 Nov 12, 2012
Grow up Grover Norquist, there is NO crying in Politics, P.S. how are your overseas buddies doing Norquist?

Now that the fools running the Republicans nd tea baggers but are not elected officials at all, like Karl Rove and Grover Norquist.

These two DUMB BUNNIES have been running around crying about how they lost.

Norquist Says Obama Portrayed Romney as a Poopy-Head.
Rethumpedlicans

Anderson, CA

#6251 Nov 12, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>lol..funny how you know then Scientists. I know I don't, that's why I read and post what they write and say. Dude...stick to talking about obama and moochelle.
"funny how you know then scientists"??

wtf does that mean??

you are correct! you havnt posted any real science....

no1. it is all bought and paid for by oil companies

(your 31000 scientists reflects a fraction of those in the business)

no2. the reason everybody can see through it so darn easily(at least here in the golden state) is that is part of the same koch brothers stlye tea offensive on clean air laws.....

that they have launched nationwide...

it is like these outa touch billionaire activists people, dont realize that people in different states commumicate with each other??..

we in califronia certainly watch what is happening around the country, and what the billionaires are trying to push through.

it is a politcal barometer..
Nutty Norquist

La Puente, CA

#6252 Nov 12, 2012
They give BILLIONS to an election that will get them "access" at the drop of a hat.

But talk about raising their taxes a little and they get all butthurt and defensive.

Something is wrong with this pictue.

Are we talking about Republicans and Ta Baggers again?

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#6253 Nov 12, 2012
Obama made no campaign promise to mitigate climate change, he promised to make coal unaffordable.
Irving

Pulaski, TN

#6254 Nov 12, 2012
Rethumpedlicans wrote:
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you are correct! you havnt posted any real science....
Neither have you, shitferbrains.

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