Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Spun Out Post Monkey wrote:

frankie??
any relation to mikey??

Mike DiRucci is a victim of Topix censorship of free speech.

Some posters and opinions on Topix are more equal than others.

JUSTICE KAGAN: Well, is what happened in 1996 -- and I'm going to quote from the House Report here -- is that "Congress decided to reflect an honor of collective moral judgment and to express moral disapproval of homosexuality." Is that what happened in 1996?

MR. CLEMENT: Does the House Report say that? Of course, the House Report says that. And if that's enough to invalidate the statute, then you should invalidate the statute. But that has never been your approach, especially under rational basis or even rational basis-plus, if that is what you are suggesting.

This Court, even when it's to find more heightened scrutiny, the O'Brien case we cite, it suggests, look, we are not going to strike down a statute just because a couple of legislators may have had an improper motive. We're going to look, and under rational basis, we look, is there any rational basis for the statute?

And so sure, the House Report says some things that we are not -- we've never invoked in trying to defend the statute.

But the House Report says other things, like Congress was trying to promote democratic self-governance. And in a situation where an unelected State judiciary in Hawaii is on the verge of deciding this highly contentious, highly divisive issue for everybody, for the States -- for the other States and for the Federal government by borrowing principle, it makes sense for Congress -
From the DOMA oral arguments transcript

Pietro Armando wrote:

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Very good Johnny Cochrane....is he still around?

Cochrane died in 2005 of a brain tumor.

It fits that our man "Tommy Cochrane" AKA "Mr. Anderson" AKA "Hemp telelgraph" named himself after a man who succeeded in letting his client get away with a brutal double murder.

Tommy Cochrane is a great sideshow. Just like Johnny was!

Tommy cochrane wrote:

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the progressive movement is the reason why we dont have people like you leading this country....
thank god!!

Sanity is the reason we don't have people like you leading this country.

Country-Girl22 wrote:

<quoted text>You my dearest sunshine are confused! Are you gay? How does it work, is there a wife man and a husband man? Do you switch roles, and positions?

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Rather like yo do when you get bent over the dishes in the kitchen and take it up the root so that the plumber doesnt have to look at your nose & pimples while you autograph the receipt, one guesses.

Tommy cochrane wrote:

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what planet are you from??
alterboy2??

Earth. Which planet are you from?

Tommy cochrane wrote:

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I stand by milk....
he is ONE of many heros..

is Jerry Sandusky a hero of yours too? Or were his boys a little younger then Harvey's? What age do you like your boys?

"Why I Oppose Gay Marriage 11nov08
It’s clear to me that eventually men will be able to marry men and women will be able to marry women in all of the United States, it’s just not clear exactly when. It’s just that I am not very excited about the prospect. In fact, even being homosexual, I actually oppose gay marriage. Not only that — I oppose it as a gay person.

I am most annoyed by straight people’s calls for it. These people who postpone their own marriages until same-sex couples can be married are just being abysmally silly. Their gay friends must love the drama of it all. I have been noticing more discussion of this lately, and now with the passing of Proposition 8 in California and the lesser known Proposition 2 in Florida, both of which enacted a constitutional ban on same-sex marriages, the outrage has reached a crescendo. Finally, Keith Olbermann forced my hand — I can no longer keep silent on the issue of gay marriage and why it is stupid, awful, and undesirable...."
http://nogaymarriage.wordpress.com/

Tommy cochrane wrote:

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show me where i wrote that!!
shame on you, putting words in my mouth!!
you right wing ding a ling.
you guys do that alot to people here, so Im not exactly surprised.

You said a greasy slob 30 year old man slick legging your 16 year old daughter would be cool if he was progressive.

Tommy cochrane wrote:

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super gay?? gay is gay....like they say...and people dont really have a choice...so I have no idea what you are talking about....
"bush crime family'
I have EVERY idea what your talking about.
keep spreading the good word on how these low lifes ripped america off for trillions.

You're the one who brought up the term "super gay" dummy. Remember?

You said child molestation is cool if the kid is super gay.

What's the real cost to small cities though out California?

Dusty Mangina wrote:

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Yes, because you're so frikkin' erudite. Please detect bitchy sarcasm.

You mad?

Been living to close to the research lab and it's reactor are you mad?

TickerTape wrote:

Been living to close to the research lab and it's reactor are you mad?

That'd be Old Livermore Billy. AKA "Old SniffsButt" or some such silly sh!t.

Senile old codger one foot in the grave the other tap dancing.

jose cruze III wrote:

the gay marriage agenda is the beginning of a diabolical trend to make the homosexual life style legitimate ,..
it is a plan that envisions the gay life style as totally 'normal' and acceptable through out the American society and eventually the world

I've got news for ya, Jose, the US ain't leading the charge on this one. In fact we're a bit behind much of the more developed part of the world on it. Gay folk have seen acceptance in numerous locations.

jose cruze III wrote:

the gay life style can never be legitimate ,...
no matter what the so called modern progressives do to manipulate the truth ,..
the acceptance of such an agenda reflects the dementia of western society
the progressive movement is the bellwether , eventually resulting in the death of western civilization
and ..essentially guaranteeing the Muslims will eventually dominate the earth

Now that is quite a loony leap of faith there, the progressive movement resulting in Muslim world dominance. Maybe your tinfoil hat is a bit too tight.

Country-Girl22 wrote:

<quoted text>...I'm only 22 years old and I can almost guarantee I am a hell of a lot smarter then more then half of the people in this country!

If that is true we're in for becoming the laughing stock of the planet. You don't even know the difference between "then" and "than."

Country-Girl22 wrote:

<quoted text>You'll find out just how real it is when you have to face God and try to explain your blasphemies!

*thump thump thump*

Brian_G wrote:

<quoted text>So, sheesh admits the problem of same sex marriage creating more intrusive government regulation, wasteful government spending and higher taxes, but doesn't consider the problem important.

I don't admit any such thing. You have yet to legitimately quantify these expenses. I submit that they're either nil or so small as to make no significant difference. This is exactly like your nonsense about forced prison marriages. Don't you recall bringing in your evidence from Canada's experiences? What was it? A couple of marriages over several years and not one bit of evidence that any of them were "forced." Come on Brian, tell us exactly how much tax burden we'll each suffer. What'll it be?$0.000000000000000000000000 00001 per capita?

Brian_G wrote:

<quoted text>I support civil unions and domestic partnerships as compromise; they won't change marriage law or cause the same effect as the radical redefinition of a fundamental social institution.

You're quite gifted at non-answers there Brian. I'll simplify things for you and stick with one concept at a time. You claim same sex marriage will lead to forced prison marriages. Why won't civil unions lead to forced prison civil unions? C'mon now Brian, give us a real answer instead of a bumper sticker. Give us the details on that one.

hemp for telelgraphs wrote:

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you are a typical example of why education in this nation needs a huge overhaul, and LOTs of money..

Why, because it is a fact, and an onhest opinion!!! you need the education not me

Bruno wrote:

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Why, because it is a fact, and an onhest opinion!!! you need the education not me

Aw, shuddup Bluto you third rate jackass!