Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,179

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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#183773 Mar 18, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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True, but they have said procreation is the reason marriage either exists, or that the compelling state interest. Here's one example.
http://www.cas.umt.edu/phil/faculty/walton/ba...
The institution of marriage as a union man and woman, uniquely involving the procreation and rearing of children within a family, is as old as the book of Genesis. Skinner V. Oklahoma ex rel. Williamson, 316 U.S. 535, 541, 62 S.Ct. 1110, 1113, 86 L.Ed. 1655, 1660 (1942), which invalidated Oklahoma's Habitual Criminal Sterilization Act on equal protection grounds, stated in part: "Marriage and procreation are fundamental to the very existence and survival of the race." This historic institution manifestly is more deeply founded than the asserted contemporary concept of marriage and societal interests for which petitioners contend. The due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment is not a charter for restructuring it by judicial legislation.
You are wasting your time on Rose, unless like me you are simply entertaining yourself at her expense conversing with her is simply an exercise in futility.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#183774 Mar 18, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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First, your argument isn't with me, take it up with MSNBC.
Second, everyone knows you have no argument when you resurrect Hitler and make ridiculous assertions about what I believe (slander).
Third, any true believer knows that love and truth are inseparable in the Christian faith. Again, if you were a professional social worker, you would understand the impact of denial.
Fourth, leave marriage and children alone. Imposing an imposter relationship on marriage will not fix your unhappiness.
Smile.
Oh... So all of a sudden your vast knowledge of epigenetics comes from MSNBC? Good to know that you've really looked into this matter to a depth that you can knowledgeably discuss it.

But you're not interested in discussing it with any depth of knowledge, you just want to beat people over the head with something you heard about in passing.

Why would any of us expect any difference from you.

I compare you to Hitler because you both advocate the same thing. You both believe that purity of the human race is in part based on the elimination of homosexuals. Is this not true? If I'm mistaken, please "straighten" me out.(wink)

And we will not stop our pursuit of the rights and protections of legal marriage. We are within our rights as American citizens to pursue them.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#183775 Mar 18, 2013
akaidiot wrote:
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You have serious issues with critical thinking don't you?
I guess everything has to be in picture form for you to comprehend it.
You make a lame attack because I'm right, and you don't have the 'nads to admit it.
The courts have never said you have to be able to reproduce in order to marry.
And speaking of critical thinking, since you don't have to be able to reproduce in order to marry, the fact gay couples can't reproduce is a non issue when it comes to marriage.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#183776 Mar 18, 2013
akpilot wrote:
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You're an idiot. Your response doesn't even slightly resemble a logical retort to my post.
Do need help functioning?
I was talking about the 14th Amendment and Loving v Va, and you replied with a bunch of stuff about slavery...
And you say I'm an idiot! LOL!
Thanks for the smile.:)
VacuLocked

La Puente, CA

#183777 Mar 18, 2013
Nutters are running around looking for GOP, Republican and Tea Party member's to shorten their out look on life.
The Flying Eagle

Modesto, CA

#183778 Mar 18, 2013
If you want to wake up with a sore butt then that's your problem, but don't make it mine!

It's ok to be gay in hell!
Shazzammed

La Puente, CA

#183779 Mar 18, 2013
DE-Nutters are running around looking for GOP, Republican and Tea Party member's to shorten their outlook on life.

Since: Jun 07

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#183780 Mar 18, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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You make a lame attack because I'm right, and you don't have the 'nads to admit it.
The courts have never said you have to be able to reproduce in order to marry.
And speaking of critical thinking, since you don't have to be able to reproduce in order to marry, the fact gay couples can't reproduce is a non issue when it comes to marriage.
We have tried to explain to your brain cell that "required" is not the same as "central purpose" or "compelling state interest."

You really should get your GED before you attempt to play lawyer.

Oh, and thank you for the laugh, crying about lame attacks when you feel the need to change my name every time you post to me. Who is the child?

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#183781 Mar 18, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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I was talking about the 14th Amendment and Loving v Va, and you replied with a bunch of stuff about slavery...
And you say I'm an idiot! LOL!
Thanks for the smile.:)
Yes, because you clinging to Loving v Virginia was an attempt to toss the race card into play in regards to the founders.

I should have known that you wouldn't be able to comprehend the post.

If you want people to stop calling you an idiot, I suggest you stop acting like one.

Since: Mar 09

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#183782 Mar 18, 2013
Friend of Bill wrote:
<quoted text>Did you know the average gay male consumes 22.68 lbs of fecal matter on an annual basis, kinda sick if you ask me?!?!
If that was true you'd have been consumed long ago.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#183783 Mar 18, 2013
akaidiot wrote:
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We have tried to explain to your brain cell that "required" is not the same as "central purpose" or "compelling state interest."
So what? It's not the same as a lot of other things. I just said it wasn't required, and it's not.
akaidiot wrote:
You really should get your GED before you attempt to play lawyer.
I pass gas better educated than you, and better smelling.
akaidiot wrote:
Oh, and thank you for the laugh, crying about lame attacks when you feel the need to change my name every time you post to me. Who is the child?
I wouldn't insult children by calling you one.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#183784 Mar 18, 2013
akaidiot wrote:
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Yes, because you clinging to Loving v Virginia was an attempt to toss the race card into play in regards to the founders.
Stupid, why don't you just admit you fked up?
I was talking about Loving v VA and the 14th Amendment, and marriage. You started to copy/paste stuff about slavery. It was funny.
akaidiot wrote:
I should have known that you wouldn't be able to comprehend the post.
If you want people to stop calling you an idiot, I suggest you stop acting like one.
You are an idiot. And if you want people to believe you are in favor of gay marriage, I suggest you stop making lame personal attacks at everyone in favor of it while picking out the pubes of those against it from between your teeth.

Since: Jun 07

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#183785 Mar 18, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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So what? It's not the same as a lot of other things. I just said it wasn't required, and it's not.
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I pass gas better educated than you, and better smelling.
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I wouldn't insult children by calling you one.
You really are stuck on stupid aren't you?

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#183786 Mar 18, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Stupid, why don't you just admit you fked up?
I was talking about Loving v VA and the 14th Amendment, and marriage. You started to copy/paste stuff about slavery. It was funny.
What other connection should I have made to your reference of Loving v Virginia and how the founders would have felt about the decision other than to make one with racism?

Since the issue in Loving v Virginia was RACE, and you want to know how the founders would feel about it, why wouldn't we look at how they felt about slavery which was also an issue of RACE?

I know you really have trouble with critical thinking Rose, but come on, even a 2 year old could have connected those dots.

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#183787 Mar 18, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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You are an idiot. And if you want people to believe you are in favor of gay marriage, I suggest you stop making lame personal attacks at everyone in favor of it while picking out the pubes of those against it from between your teeth.
Hey moron, there are about half a dozen members of the idiot club which I converse with, you are a charter member no doubt.

You and the other member's are treated like idiots, not because of your position on same sex marriage, but because you act like idiots. And there are members on both side of the issue, so again you fail.

Like I said Rose, if you want to stop being called an idiot, I suggest you stop acting like one.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#183788 Mar 18, 2013
akaidiot wrote:
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You really are stuck on stupid aren't you?
No, that would be you.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#183789 Mar 18, 2013
akaidiot wrote:
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What other connection should I have made to your reference of Loving v Virginia and how the founders would have felt about the decision other than to make one with racism?
Since the issue in Loving v Virginia was RACE, and you want to know how the founders would feel about it, why wouldn't we look at how they felt about slavery which was also an issue of RACE?

Come on, you fked up. Grow a pair and admit it. I was talking about a marriage case and the 14th Amendment. Either you didn't understand what I wrote, or you didn't understand what you copy/pasted.
akaidiot wrote:
I know you really have trouble with critical thinking Rose, but come on, even a 2 year old could have connected those dots.
There were no dots. You are just an idiot with no balls.

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#183790 Mar 18, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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No, that would be you.
More unintellectual banter from you.

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#183791 Mar 18, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Come on, you fked up. Grow a pair and admit it. I was talking about a marriage case and the 14th Amendment. Either you didn't understand what I wrote, or you didn't understand what you copy/pasted.
How do you expect people to comprehend your incoherent ramblings?

BTW, you were talking about the decision in Loving v Virginia, not the 14th Amendment.

If you can't keep up with your own nonsense how do you expect others to?

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#183792 Mar 18, 2013
akpilot wrote:
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More unintellectual banter from you.
LOL. As opposed to the intellectual banter above?
Thanks for the chuckles.

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