Shootout in Norwalk

There are 20 comments on the Whittier Daily News story from Apr 27, 2009, titled Shootout in Norwalk. In it, Whittier Daily News reports that:

A shootout occurred involving Los Angeles Police officers and gang members in the parking lot of a Stater Bros.

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cane

United States

#21 Apr 28, 2009
preston silverstein wrote:
i saw the body on the floor it was sad.
what happen did u see anything?
cane

United States

#22 Apr 28, 2009
did u see anything envolving the shooting?
cane

United States

#23 Apr 28, 2009
OMG he was 14 years old!! why did he have to get shoot in the head? why was he handcuffed if he was shot? did anyone see anything?
kray

Downey, CA

#25 Apr 28, 2009
15 years old and walking around with a loaded gun ... What you expect the undercover cops do? Just stand there and let someone with a gun fire at them?... Of course they felt threaten, they fired back and didn't miss!
The Muffin Man

Canoga Park, CA

#26 Apr 28, 2009
If the deceased was a gang banger, then its "game over".
Evelyn Norwalk

United States

#27 Apr 28, 2009
Grateful citizen wrote:
Uncoverd for 3 hours for everyone to see??? Too damn bad for him...maybe his banging buddies will give up their weapons & hope to God that they are not the next one shot. No pitty for the bad guys here. Can you idiots spell KARMA?
how could you said that you were not there. why kill him he was a little kid. and to leave him uncover what if that was your child would you want to see that. i pray for his family.
El Chorizo

Monterey Park, CA

#28 Apr 28, 2009
Norwalk Noodles wrote:
They seem to still be returning with the choppers and it is still 11:15pm. Makes me think that it is now a case of another one got away from them. It takes 45 min. to get an officer here in this part of town. They did that shooting on a property that has Imperial Hwy and Firestone on both sides. The Choppers started about 5:30-6:00p and it was rush hour and those streets are packed with cars at that hour. Hopefully, no one was injured or had property damage from stray bullets. Norwalk needs more Sheriff's and less of those public Safety people as there are problems here that seem to just grow and not doubt it will get worse as result of the economy. I recall a shooting less than ten years ago on Imperial across from the Library at man carrying a ammo clip. Glad Whittier News picked up the news item!!!!
Jackhole, the choppers at 11:15 pm were the media. Two in custody. I live in that part of Norwalk and I haven't had a problem. I do know they prioritize their calls for service, so when it takes 45 minutes for them to come out and tell your neighbor to turn down the music, remember, they may be handling a potential assault call somewhere else in the city or assisting another deputy after a suspect who's more of a threat to life than just the music covering over you watching Dr. Phil. There was a few stray bullets that hit cars, which is why the area was contained for a while, several hours, while investigators put that puzzle together. The public safety people help while keeping our taxes down. I prefer them to take a lost cell phone report or traffic control for a car crash instead of having a deputy (paid about 3-4 times more than them) sit and do nothing but remain in the field to answer calls.
El Chorizo

Monterey Park, CA

#29 Apr 28, 2009
Norwalk Noodles wrote:
<quoted text>
Stacy, the thing I always find creepy is that the choppers are up there to look for someone and they would come over our house and then you wonder if they have chased someone into the neighborhood again. Have had people hide in between houses here and it is not a comfortable feeling. Further, call the Sheriff's office and they won't tell you a thing other than stay inside and give you a big dose of attitude. Their office is 2 miles from that location and it takes 45 min for them to get here if they come at all. One night they said we are busy if we come it will be in 3 hrs. Not a comforting feeling if you know what I mean and especially if you can't get any information as to what is happening in the news. Two sites have a little some thing now and one KTLA screwed up big time and mixes an incident in Fountain Valley with the Norwalk Incident! They need to get Whittier PD and let LA Sheriff Dept. go on their way.
The sheriff isn't obligated to tell you anything about a crime in progress. I look at it this way, if I hear them, I stay out of their way. It's my house but if they are protecting it from potentially someone who illegally ran in the yard or poses a threat to my family or property, they are the best trained to deal with the threat. If it goes on for several minutes, I will call then AND ONLY THEN because I have experienced that during a busy time like that, their 911 call operators gesmashed with calls from fools like you. If you are so fond of shittier pd, move to shittier or santa fe springs where they patrol. I for one pay my taxes to live in Norwalk so if they ever considered paying more for law enforcement and getting less for my dollar, I will be at the city council meetings every tuesday.
Idiots

Paramount, CA

#30 Apr 28, 2009
Evelyn Norwalk wrote:
<quoted text> how could you said that you were not there. why kill him he was a little kid. and to leave him uncover what if that was your child would you want to see that. i pray for his family.
Why kill him? Are you Serious? Kid or not, he was carrying a weapon ready to shoot someone. If a 15 year old punk kid comes up to you and tries to rob you, rape you, and kill your children b/c he missed his intended targets, you're gonna say "but he was just a kid"? This "kid" at 15 seems like he was destined to become a future banger...he would have died or gone to prison eventually.
El Chorizo

Monterey Park, CA

#31 Apr 28, 2009
whittier pd sucks wrote:
What the hell are talking about???- Whittier pd is 10 times worst. The people that live in Whittier PD's contracted cities despise Whittier PD to the bone. If you really know your facts, your going to find out that the truth is that the city of Norwalk city council and mayor himself are all at fault for having Norwalk looking like Compton. They refuse to put the money and allocate their budget where is is needed the most - THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT!!!! I talk to our Deputies all the time and all I hear is complaints on how the City Council and Public Safety director just wants deputies to focus on their stupid citizen (their personal voter friends) complaints - like getting a stupid cat down from a tree or giving citations to kids on mopeds....come on!!!. WHo's fault is it reallY?
I don't know about you, but I fly over Compton often and there is a big difference in appearance and demographics. I place it all on the director of Public Safety. He needs to let Captain Maxwell run his station, period. I believe if Norwalk contracted with the sheriff's department, they accepted them and their policies and the city shouldn't ask to change a thing.
KHG

Norwalk, CA

#32 Apr 28, 2009
I don't feel any sorrow for the kid that got shot. You run around parking lots with a gun opening fire, you deserve what happens to you. I live right by Keystone Lanes, just up Imperial from that Stater Bros, my girlfriend used to work there. We go up there all the time and could've just as easily been in that parking lot when something like this happened, thinking about that possible situation and maybe her or her little sister getting hit by some stray bullets makes me completely incapable of feeling any sympathy whatsoever. I think the cops handled the situation well, when you got a guy in a parking lot with innocent people opening fire, you shoot to kill, plain and simple. Anyone saying different I'm sure would feel differently if an innocent bystander they were related to was hurt in this shootout.
The Muffin Man

Canoga Park, CA

#33 Apr 28, 2009
El Chorizo wrote:
<quoted text>
The sheriff isn't obligated to tell you anything about a crime in progress. I look at it this way, if I hear them, I stay out of their way. It's my house but if they are protecting it from potentially someone who illegally ran in the yard or poses a threat to my family or property, they are the best trained to deal with the threat. If it goes on for several minutes, I will call then AND ONLY THEN because I have experienced that during a busy time like that, their 911 call operators gesmashed with calls from fools like you. If you are so fond of shittier pd, move to shittier or santa fe springs where they patrol. I for one pay my taxes to live in Norwalk so if they ever considered paying more for law enforcement and getting less for my dollar, I will be at the city council meetings every tuesday.
You are right in the fact that they are trained to handle the situation. That being said they do not respond when there is a shots fired, street fight or most other urgent calls, but they are sure quick to issue parking tickets 3 or more units, in front of west whittier school.
El Chorizo

Monterey Park, CA

#34 Apr 28, 2009
BIG ESPO wrote:
Its time we all wake up in Norwalk, The gang situation is getting ready to explode if nothing gets done.I dont have the anwser but you can just feel it.please keep our city in prayer !!!!!
Amen my Brother, or sister. Those others also need to quit complaining and volunteer at the Station. They don't have to go out and fight crime but only assist a few hours a month at their choice to make the city better.

Remember, if you're not part of the solution, you're contributing to the problem.
El Chorizo

Monterey Park, CA

#35 Apr 28, 2009
sfs resident wrote:
Posted in LB Press Telegram...apparantly they do a better job of reporting and following up than Wthe WD.
Autopsy today for man killed in Norwalk
From wire services
Posted: 04/28/2009 07:18:08 AM PDT
NORWALK - An autopsy was pending today on the body of a male who was fatally shot by two undercover Los Angeles Police Department officers who intervened when they observed a shooting in a parking lot in Norwalk, authorities said.
The incident occurred around 6:50 ****.m. Monday when the officers -- members of the "queen units," a special crime suppression unit from the LAPD's 77th Station -- were conducting an investigation near Imperial Highway and Firestone Boulevard, said Officer Karen Rayner of the Los Angeles Police Department's Media Relations Section.
During their investigation, the two undercover officers witnessed a shooting in a nearby parking lot, prompting them to intervene, LAPD Detective Tom Wich told an On Scene Video camera crew.
Moments later, the officer-involved shooting occurred, and a male was declared dead at the scene, Wich said. His name was withheld pending notification of family members.
Wich said no one else was hurt.
Exactly what prompted the officers to open fire was not immediately disclosed.
Freaking brilliant! The LB Press and Shittier Daily News are cut from the same cloth.

Two quotes from the LBPT:

officers of a special crime suppression unit from the LAPD's 77th Station were conducting an investigation near Imperial Highway and Firestone Boulevard, During their investigation, the two undercover officers witnessed a shooting in a nearby parking lot, prompting them to intervene

And:

Exactly what prompted the officers to open fire was not immediately disclosed.

Could it have been the shooting they just witnessed?

I, like the editors of those papers, also don't understand why readership is down?????
El Chorizo

Monterey Park, CA

#36 Apr 28, 2009
Grateful citizen wrote:
Go ahead & disagree with me....everyone will, but I thank God for the Norwalk cops & am much more disturbed by the amount of guns in this city (& country) that I call home.
If you don't use & carry guns....there would be no gang bangers or shootings reported on the news every day of our lives. Imagine that......a peaceful society. Wow....what a concept.
I agree Norwalk cops are great, I disagree and think guns are needed, but the politicians won't create nor back laws needed for legal ownership.
Tina V

Long Beach, CA

#37 Apr 28, 2009
Last month, at around 3am one Saturday night, some idiots crashed into my car, which was parked right in front of my apartment, left their car RUNNING, smashed into mine, and took off running (more like jogging!). The cops didn't get there until about 4am, and the sheriff's dept. is only a few blocks away!! The officer admitted to me that the Norwalk Sheriff's Dept. is always short-handed at those hours. That just made it worse!! What can we do??? They could've caught the jerks if they would have gotten here faster.
El Chorizo

Monterey Park, CA

#38 Apr 28, 2009
SO SAD wrote:
IT WASNT ONE "MAN INJURED" IT WAS A 15 YEAR OLD BOY WHO WAS KILLED AND WAS LEFT LAYING IN THE PARKING LOT HANDCUFFED FOR OVER 3 HOURS UNCOVERED FOR EVERYONE TO SEE..
He was committing a crime with a firearm, child or not, the threat had to be stopped. Are you one of those idiots who also complain when a person committs a deputy assisted suicide by pointing a replica toy firearm at a deputy?

Parents, if you don't want this happening to your kids too, raise them right. I prefer this action was taken, rather than have an officer or deputy's life taken because they stopped to ask "is that a real gun or replica and even though you can still shoot me if it's real, are you 15 or over 18?"

I was listening to the scanner when that went down. They found him, detained him at gunpoint, put the cuffs on him (in case he was playing opossum so he wouldn't get up and assault deputies with a weapon) and when they began to search him discovered his bullet wound and that he wasn't breathing. Coast Plaza isn't a trauma center hospital so if he was still alive he would've been transported to St. Francis in Lynwood, the closest trauma center best equipped to deal with gun shot wounds. The paramedics weren't called due to his condition, period! They left him there to put together the puzzle of how/why it happened. He was far enough away when I passed that they only way you'd see his dead bones was if you were a looky-loo WHO WAS BLOCKING TRAFFIC CRANING YOUR NECK OR WALKED OVER THERE TO SEE IF YOU COULD SEE ANYTHING AND CREATE LOOKY-LOO TRAFFIC AND YOU STILL HAD NO BUSINESS THERE!
El Chorizo

Monterey Park, CA

#39 Apr 28, 2009
Mz Dreamer LM wrote:
Now the truth is coming out! 77th LAPD, sounds like near Rampart! Excuse me but to me and this is just my opinion, Norwalk Sherriffs do their job and yes some have gone a little over board but..they do their job and mostly by the book! I am not a hater nor a lover of police but I would rather be busted by Norwalk than any other station because i know they do their job and if i am being arrested i did something wrong! That 15 year old boy should have been taken care of that minute it wasn't no hollywood crime bank crap and they ave bullet proof vests that boy should have not been left there and handcuffed someone will answer for this guaranteed. Gangs or not that is someones child and you and i both know, a life is a life, God put him here for a reason.
Once again idiot, He was committing a crime with a firearm, child or not, the threat had to be stopped. Are you one of those idiots who also complain when a person committs a deputy assisted suicide by pointing a replica toy firearm at a deputy?

Parents, if you don't want this happening to your kids too, raise them right. I prefer this action was taken, rather than have an officer or deputy's life taken because they stopped to ask "is that a real gun or replica and even though you can still shoot me if it's real, are you 15 or over 18?"

I was listening to the scanner when that went down. They found him, detained him at gunpoint, put the cuffs on him (in case he was playing opossum so he wouldn't get up and assault deputies with a weapon) and when they began to search him discovered his bullet wound and that he wasn't breathing. Coast Plaza isn't a trauma center hospital so if he was still alive he would've been transported to St. Francis in Lynwood, the closest trauma center best equipped to deal with gun shot wounds. The paramedics weren't called due to his condition, period! They left him there to put together the puzzle of how/why it happened. He was far enough away when I passed that they only way you'd see his dead bones was if you were a looky-loo WHO WAS BLOCKING TRAFFIC CRANING YOUR NECK OR WALKED OVER THERE TO SEE IF YOU COULD SEE ANYTHING AND CREATE LOOKY-LOO TRAFFIC AND YOU STILL HAD NO BUSINESS THERE!
El Chorizo

Monterey Park, CA

#40 Apr 28, 2009
thats what they get wrote:
game over. Kid shoulda been doing some homework instead. So let's throw a car wash for his funeral fund raising and wear R.I.P shirts. Been there, done that. At least no innocent people or police officers got hurt. Whats sad "SO SAD" is there will be more stories like this.
Amen! I'll let you know when I disagree with you.........don't wait up, ok? It'll be a long time...
sistersara

Pittsburgh, PA

#41 Apr 28, 2009
If the swine flu dont kilo a mexican the white cops surly wilol. Now take your flu shots!!!!!!!!!!

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