who is the culprit, in iraq war?

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indian 007

Gurgaon, India

#1 Dec 17, 2012
nearly 3000 peoples killed in world trade center.. but question is that how many civilians killed in iraq war? estimated figure is more than 50,000,, these were civilians,, they had nothing to do with americans and iraqis affairs,, countless orphans,, now tell me what is terrorism and who are terrorists? americans have been washing their hands with innocence blood since vietnam war? terrorists are bad guys but what about american soldiers? are they less than terrorists?
anonymous california

Hillsboro, OH

#3 Dec 18, 2012
indian 007 wrote:
nearly 3000 peoples killed in world trade center.. but question is that how many civilians killed in iraq war? estimated figure is more than 50,000,, these were civilians,, they had nothing to do with americans and iraqis affairs,, countless orphans,, now tell me what is terrorism and who are terrorists? americans have been washing their hands with innocence blood since vietnam war? terrorists are bad guys but what about american soldiers? are they less than terrorists?
What about the nuclear war in ancient India thousands of years ago between two rival alien beings? There must've been a lot of innocent human casualties. I have heard about it but I don't know much about it. Supposedly, India has factual historical records that prove the existence of ancient space aliens and space ships and super space alien weapons.

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There is innocent bloodshed in just about every human culture throughout history. Egypt. Rome. Germany. America just happens to be the #1 earthly super power right now with all of the big toys that make big booms. But America's role goes back before the Vietnam War. Look at the early American (native) Indians and black slavery in this country.

About the Iraq War. Dictator Saddam Hussein was a evil person no doubt. He came into power through assasinations. He did use WMD (Weapons of Mass Destructiion) on his own people. Rulership would have probaly passed on to his sone who may have been even more ruthless with the corruptible power. But when they executed him by hanging. I did think they probaly should've just allowed him to live out his final days in a prison cell. He was old, feeble, and sickly at that point in his life.

It's too bad that we can not seem to realize that we are one people living on one planet and that we are in this together and that no one is better than anyone else.
indian 007

Gurgaon, India

#4 Dec 19, 2012
anonymous california wrote:
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What about the nuclear war in ancient India thousands of years ago between two rival alien beings? There must've been a lot of innocent human casualties. I have heard about it but I don't know much about it. Supposedly, India has factual historical records that prove the existence of ancient space aliens and space ships and super space alien weapons.
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There is innocent bloodshed in just about every human culture throughout history. Egypt. Rome. Germany. America just happens to be the #1 earthly super power right now with all of the big toys that make big booms. But America's role goes back before the Vietnam War. Look at the early American (native) Indians and black slavery in this country.
About the Iraq War. Dictator Saddam Hussein was a evil person no doubt. He came into power through assasinations. He did use WMD (Weapons of Mass Destructiion) on his own people. Rulership would have probaly passed on to his sone who may have been even more ruthless with the corruptible power. But when they executed him by hanging. I did think they probaly should've just allowed him to live out his final days in a prison cell. He was old, feeble, and sickly at that point in his life.
It's too bad that we can not seem to realize that we are one people living on one planet and that we are in this together and that no one is better than anyone else.
dude u know what do i mean..i am just talking about the innocent people killed,,,and most importantly do u really think america was trying to establish peace in these wars? probably not,, it was personnel avenge every time,,weather it was hiroshima or vietnam war or iraq war,,, peace can never be attained at the cost of innocence blood.. well i m not a judge,, i simply presented my opinion,, so i close this topic,,never mind bro..
anonymous california

Hillsboro, OH

#5 Dec 19, 2012
indian 007 wrote:
<quoted text>dude u know what do i mean..i am just talking about the innocent people killed,,,and most importantly do u really think america was trying to establish peace in these wars? probably not,, it was personnel avenge every time,,weather it was hiroshima or vietnam war or iraq war,,, peace can never be attained at the cost of innocence blood.. well i m not a judge,, i simply presented my opinion,, so i close this topic,,never mind bro..
Please don't feel that I wanted a argument with you. You started a discussion thread and presented your opinion with questions. So, I thought you were welcoming viewpoints.

I agree with your comment. That peace can never be attained at the cost of innocent blood. I must say that the land of India has shown the way to finding peace without shedding the blood of the innocent. And even without shedding the blood of evil men. I'm talking about the great Mahatma Gandhi, who as I'm sure you know much better than I, brought about great social change through his non-violent protests. Another great example is Jesus Christ, who taught to love our enemies and to do good to those who hurt us.

But what about evil world rulers who are deadset on taking over the world and have the armies and weapondry to do so? Even the methods of Christ and Ghandi may not apply in that situation. And I don't think Ghandi's non-violent protests, at the time, were aimed at persuading a evil dictator to be nice and friendly. And I don't think Christ's death on the cross had anything to do with peacefully dethroning Rome's emperor.

Peace to you my new friend.

:-)
indian 007

Gurgaon, India

#6 Dec 20, 2012
anonymous california wrote:
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Please don't feel that I wanted a argument with you. You started a discussion thread and presented your opinion with questions. So, I thought you were welcoming viewpoints.
I agree with your comment. That peace can never be attained at the cost of innocent blood. I must say that the land of India has shown the way to finding peace without shedding the blood of the innocent. And even without shedding the blood of evil men. I'm talking about the great Mahatma Gandhi, who as I'm sure you know much better than I, brought about great social change through his non-violent protests. Another great example is Jesus Christ, who taught to love our enemies and to do good to those who hurt us.
But what about evil world rulers who are deadset on taking over the world and have the armies and weapondry to do so? Even the methods of Christ and Ghandi may not apply in that situation. And I don't think Ghandi's non-violent protests, at the time, were aimed at persuading a evil dictator to be nice and friendly. And I don't think Christ's death on the cross had anything to do with peacefully dethroning Rome's emperor.
Peace to you my new friend.
:-)
i agree with u dude, i m also a believer of christ,, i do b'lieve, sometime we got no choice,,peace be upon u friend,,
I know

Los Angeles, CA

#7 Dec 21, 2012
And these people like to call themselves Christians? LMFAO!!!!!!!!
unclelostat SSHospital

Sonoma, CA

#8 Dec 21, 2012
the only cure is for all guns to be in the keeping of perpetually drunk lesbian mudwrestlers who will only dispense the firearms if one performs the nasty blooey on them as they command right there.
anonymous california

Hillsboro, OH

#9 Dec 21, 2012
indian 007 wrote:
<quoted text>i agree with u dude, i m also a believer of christ,, i do b'lieve, sometime we got no choice,,peace be upon u friend,,
And I very much agree with you in that killing the innocent is never the way to peace. Especially when it is the children. I remember on the news how the Iraqi children were hurt and crippled. They probaly will not grow up as seeing America as a liberator. The children of war must be a heavy load on the minds and conscience of American leaders and allies. Maybe this is why they say war is hell. I wonder if Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama ever think of the children.

And I recall hearing that Osama Bin Laden carried out the 9/11/2001 attack on America because America hit his homeland when he was younger. His wife and children watched him die at the hands of an American soldier. Those children will probaly not grow up seeing America as a savior.

Who is the culprit? Maybe it's not one country or a single person. Maybe the culprit is more of an attitude. Perhaps, it is what? Maybe, that of being a bully or the need to strike at a bully. I remember President George W. Bush having the war poicy of pre-emptive strike. In other words, hit them before they hit us. What the older Bush started with Iraq, the younger Bush finished. In some ways, maybe he felt he was avenging his father.

I think religion has a lot to do with it too. Christianity is based on Judaism. Both started by the Jewish people. America is mostly Christian in its religion. Christianity and Judaism both share the same Old Testament book of the Bible that holds the Torah which is the first 5 books of Moses. Because of this religious connection, America tends to favor Israel over the Arab lands. This has caused much resentment in the hearts of the Arabic people. After all, they are also descended from Abraham. The Arabs are from Ishmael, Abraham's first-born son. The Jews are from Isacc, Abraham's other son. There is a lot of Arab connections in this whole 9/11 and Iraq thing -- Afghanistan, Iraq, Osama Bin Laden and the other terrorists, Saddam Hussein.

Interesting enough, it was a Indian country that Osama Bin Laden was hiding in when he was killed, not a Arab country.
Stan and Kyle

United States

#10 Dec 21, 2012
Great comments AC
indian 007

Gurgaon, India

#11 Dec 24, 2012
anonymous california wrote:
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And I very much agree with you in that killing the innocent is never the way to peace. Especially when it is the children. I remember on the news how the Iraqi children were hurt and crippled. They probaly will not grow up as seeing America as a liberator. The children of war must be a heavy load on the minds and conscience of American leaders and allies. Maybe this is why they say war is hell. I wonder if Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama ever think of the children.
And I recall hearing that Osama Bin Laden carried out the 9/11/2001 attack on America because America hit his homeland when he was younger. His wife and children watched him die at the hands of an American soldier. Those children will probaly not grow up seeing America as a savior.
Who is the culprit? Maybe it's not one country or a single person. Maybe the culprit is more of an attitude. Perhaps, it is what? Maybe, that of being a bully or the need to strike at a bully. I remember President George W. Bush having the war poicy of pre-emptive strike. In other words, hit them before they hit us. What the older Bush started with Iraq, the younger Bush finished. In some ways, maybe he felt he was avenging his father.
I think religion has a lot to do with it too. Christianity is based on Judaism. Both started by the Jewish people. America is mostly Christian in its religion. Christianity and Judaism both share the same Old Testament book of the Bible that holds the Torah which is the first 5 books of Moses. Because of this religious connection, America tends to favor Israel over the Arab lands. This has caused much resentment in the hearts of the Arabic people. After all, they are also descended from Abraham. The Arabs are from Ishmael, Abraham's first-born son. The Jews are from Isacc, Abraham's other son. There is a lot of Arab connections in this whole 9/11 and Iraq thing -- Afghanistan, Iraq, Osama Bin Laden and the other terrorists, Saddam Hussein.
Interesting enough, it was a Indian country that Osama Bin Laden was hiding in when he was killed, not a Arab country.
hey dude , i do understand your feelings towards those innocence blood,, but tell me bro, whom u should blame ? i am an indian guy, 26 years of age , i have seen many things related to terrorism in my life time,, my country india has suffered a great loss,, thosands of innocence people have died here due to terrorist attacks,, and here the currupt government has never taken any steps, any time,, and it is continued till today n God knows how long it will go,,so war against terrorism is required but i do agree that it should be done in a very careful manner, keep civilians out of it but sometimes due to mistakes or due to hatred against one community towards others costs life of many innocence blood,, so global leaders must consider over these issues about how to keep civilians out of it, during war time,, and last but not least osama bin laden was hidden not in india but pakistan that is a separate country bro,,my country got a millions of problems and having a not so strong economy but no indian will ever support any terrorist leaders,,thanx for ur valuable thoughts my friend
Judasmas

Wellsboro, PA

#12 Dec 24, 2012
unclelostat SSHospital wrote:
the only cure is for all guns to be in the keeping of perpetually drunk lesbian mudwrestlers who will only dispense the firearms if one performs the nasty blooey on them as they command right there.
I totally feel you man.
anonymous california

Hillsboro, OH

#13 Jan 4, 2013
unclelostat SSHospital wrote:
the only cure is for all guns to be in the keeping of perpetually drunk lesbian mudwrestlers who will only dispense the firearms if one performs the nasty blooey on them as they command right there.
Please forgive my lack of knowledge in mudwrestling moves. But what is the nasty blooey?
so sad

Pico Rivera, CA

#14 Jan 4, 2013
War for oil and taking freedom from American people in the name of made up terrorism ! Democrats or Republicans. different puppets same agenda

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