San Pedro's Ponte Vista project is ba...

San Pedro's Ponte Vista project is back, albeit smaller

There are 7 comments on the The Daily Breeze story from Aug 24, 2012, titled San Pedro's Ponte Vista project is back, albeit smaller. In it, The Daily Breeze reports that:

After a two-year break, one of San Pedro's most controversial housing development proposals is slated to re-emerge this fall.

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SP Landlord

United States

#1 Aug 26, 2012
It will turn into an overpriced elitist venture, just like those new homes on Gaffey a few blocks south of Target..They are starting out close to $600k, granted these are on private land.

The new Point Vist proposal is scaled down in number, but jus watch, eventhe 2 bedroom condos will be half a million dollars with high HOA's. It's scandoulus that senior housing (small condos, and rentals, are taken off the board). Senior small condos, should be priced at not over $150k and sold only as owner occupied .. a drawing system would need to be in place and thosed with a high net worth should be excluded.

San Pedro does not need more apartment buildings, as there is an overabundance at this time.

If Point Vista does not address some social eqaulity, then let it stay the patch of weeds that it is or a large park. Housing is preferable, but not for the afluent class this time around on this large lovey expanse. Other cities have developed moderate cost home ownership developements.
Mike

Redondo Beach, CA

#2 Aug 27, 2012
SP Landlord wrote:
It will turn into an overpriced elitist venture, just like those new homes on Gaffey a few blocks south of Target..They are starting out close to $600k, granted these are on private land.
The new Point Vist proposal is scaled down in number, but jus watch, eventhe 2 bedroom condos will be half a million dollars with high HOA's. It's scandoulus that senior housing (small condos, and rentals, are taken off the board). Senior small condos, should be priced at not over $150k and sold only as owner occupied .. a drawing system would need to be in place and thosed with a high net worth should be excluded.
San Pedro does not need more apartment buildings, as there is an overabundance at this time.
If Point Vista does not address some social eqaulity, then let it stay the patch of weeds that it is or a large park. Housing is preferable, but not for the afluent class this time around on this large lovey expanse. Other cities have developed moderate cost home ownership developements.
SP is too small already. Western ave is constantly closeing a lane for yet more work. I think this developer should stop his pipe dream and sell the property to Green Hills. If thes project must go though then I would rather see a small gated community of more expensive home but no more than what is there now, maybe even less in number. There is enough low income housing in Peedro. The city of Los Angeles is cutting back on its emergency services and would never be able to handle safely the extra population.
SP Landlord

United States

#3 Aug 27, 2012
Mike wrote:
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SP is too small already. Western ave is constantly closeing a lane for yet more work. I think this developer should stop his pipe dream and sell the property to Green Hills. If thes project must go though then I would rather see a small gated community of more expensive home but no more than what is there now, maybe even less in number. There is enough low income housing in Peedro. The city of Los Angeles is cutting back on its emergency services and would never be able to handle safely the extra population.
You brought up a few good points. Too many projects and low end apartment bldgs on Western Ave zone. Also, an abundance of upscale properties in this zone. Elistism, behind the gates exoensive does not resonate nor is needed in Pedro. Keep in mind that the Navy gave this property up to the City or a like affilaited entity. It should be moderate income condos, owner occupied and on a lottery basis. Owners would be barred from selling or renting them out for for at least five years or more.

More traffic on crowded Western Ave is inevitable. Although not the easy flow it used to be, it is still not as bad as many thourougfares in LA..yes, please remember that Peedro is in the City of LA. The continued blocking of a traffice lane by construction and utility improvements is a major pain in the ass and has been going on way too damn long. Both LA and RPV have done a poor job of managing these projects.

Elitism in housing at Point Vista would amount to social injustice. No way will the San Pedro community go for it. They should have rehabed the Navy housing in the first place and sold them as any other subdivision. I just came back from Carlsbad, and a developer built Patio homes just like them about twenty year agos. Nothing fancy, but still lookgood and occupied by individual working class families.
nicky

Thailand

#4 Aug 27, 2012
In the early stages of a relationship with a guy 25 years my junior (I am 45, he is 20), when we met on cougar dating site, Cougarloving/co/m I have to say that the comment about these guys unable to get with a girl their own age has to be way off. My man is very sexy, hot and popular and I’m amazed that he wants to be with me…but also believe he does. My main concern is not other people but my family of 3 children age 10 to 17, do any others have stories of “what the family thinks”?
Mike

Redondo Beach, CA

#5 Aug 27, 2012
SP Landlord wrote:
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You brought up a few good points. Too many projects and low end apartment bldgs on Western Ave zone. Also, an abundance of upscale properties in this zone. Elistism, behind the gates exoensive does not resonate nor is needed in Pedro. Keep in mind that the Navy gave this property up to the City or a like affilaited entity. It should be moderate income condos, owner occupied and on a lottery basis. Owners would be barred from selling or renting them out for for at least five years or more.
More traffic on crowded Western Ave is inevitable. Although not the easy flow it used to be, it is still not as bad as many thourougfares in LA..yes, please remember that Peedro is in the City of LA. The continued blocking of a traffice lane by construction and utility improvements is a major pain in the ass and has been going on way too damn long. Both LA and RPV have done a poor job of managing these projects.
Elitism in housing at Point Vista would amount to social injustice. No way will the San Pedro community go for it. They should have rehabed the Navy housing in the first place and sold them as any other subdivision. I just came back from Carlsbad, and a developer built Patio homes just like them about twenty year agos. Nothing fancy, but still lookgood and occupied by individual working class families.
There is absolutely no reason to add anymore housing in Peedro. I don't know how the ones on Gaffey even got passed anyone it happened so quick, no community discussion?? I bet Janice Hahn pulled a fast one on the community before she bailed, maybe that is where she got her campaign money ...
CA girl Good Day

Lincoln, CA

#6 Jun 18, 2013
SP Landlord wrote:
It will turn into an overpriced elitist venture, just like those new homes on Gaffey a few blocks south of Target..They are starting out close to $600k, granted these are on private land.
The new Point Vist proposal is scaled down in number, but jus watch, eventhe 2 bedroom condos will be half a million dollars with high HOA's. It's scandoulus that senior housing (small condos, and rentals, are taken off the board). Senior small condos, should be priced at not over $150k and sold only as owner occupied .. a drawing system would need to be in place and thosed with a high net worth should be excluded.
San Pedro does not need more apartment buildings, as there is an overabundance at this time.
If Point Vista does not address some social eqaulity, then let it stay the patch of weeds that it is or a large park. Housing is preferable, but not for the afluent class this time around on this large lovey expanse. Other cities have developed moderate cost home ownership developements.
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Good morning LG :)You have heart and vision... agree, we need to consider seniors when planning developments. This is one of those posts I mentioned before; I came across it again while checking thread updates. Godspeed
CA girl

Lincoln, CA

#8 Jun 18, 2013
SP Landlord wrote:
<quoted text>
You brought up a few good points. Too many projects and low end apartment bldgs on Western Ave zone. Also, an abundance of upscale properties in this zone. Elistism, behind the gates exoensive does not resonate nor is needed in Pedro. Keep in mind that the Navy gave this property up to the City or a like affilaited entity. It should be moderate income condos, owner occupied and on a lottery basis. Owners would be barred from selling or renting them out for for at least five years or more.
More traffic on crowded Western Ave is inevitable. Although not the easy flow it used to be, it is still not as bad as many thourougfares in LA..yes, please remember that Peedro is in the City of LA. The continued blocking of a traffice lane by construction and utility improvements is a major pain in the ass and has been going on way too damn long. Both LA and RPV have done a poor job of managing these projects.
Elitism in housing at Point Vista would amount to social injustice. No way will the San Pedro community go for it. They should have rehabed the Navy housing in the first place and sold them as any other subdivision. I just came back from Carlsbad, and a developer built Patio homes just like them about twenty year agos. Nothing fancy, but still lookgood and occupied by individual working class families.
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Excellent points. The Navy housing should've been saved; removing history and the important foundations of our cities is a detriment in so many ways for generations. These planning problems are echoed througout many great areas of CA. There should be nice developments for the working class.

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