Gary Robbins Threatens SCWXA Meteorologist Kevin Martin

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Since: Jul 09

Corona, CA

#1 Aug 4, 2009
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA - August 5, 2009 ( SCWXA.Org ) Gary Robbins Threatens SCWXA Meteorologist Kevin Martin

Gary Robbins, otherwise known as the 'sciencedude" is a reporter for the Orange County Register, in Southern California. Robbins is known for science articles and most of them are always praising the National Weather Service or NOAA agencies even when they were wrong.

SCWXA Meteorologist Kevin Martin calls his articles bias, with no real freedom of speech. "If you post on his site against his word, he will either ban you or delete the message", said Martin. "He even went as far as e-mailing me threatening me and my Website. The guy is a nutcase who is bias to the bad forecasts NWS always puts out here."

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http://www.scwxa.org/news/2009/8/pr8509.html
Kevin Martin Crying AGAIN

Irvine, CA

#2 Aug 5, 2009
Kevin Martin of scwxa...BOO HOO!
NWS is better than the 1 sick mind at swca...GET OVER IT!...
You state on your web site you have other Meteorologist's working for you and do forcasts there...well your the only one there making the forcasts.....
NWS has alot more people working for them than you do.........and they have DEGREE'S unlike you Kevin Martin with no DEGREE at scwxa....and you call your self a Profesional?....Then please try to act like one then....instead of a 24 year old kid looking for attenion....

Since: Jul 09

Corona, CA

#3 Aug 5, 2009
25, and that is why NWS has the flaws they have, the amount of people working for them.

SCWXA has one mind in the forecast department with no confusion to the public. NWS says one thing, and the next shift says another.

I know they are terrible in this region ...
Kevin Martin Crying AGAIN

Irvine, CA

#4 Aug 5, 2009
"NWS says one thing, and the next shift says another"

And just like you Kevin Martin of scwxa....You say one thing and then you denie it after the facts are shown to you....and you blame it on ROIDS and or a lighting strike...or the best one yet....an Imposter of Kevin Martin......(Now why would ANYONE what to pretend to be you?)....NOBDY wants to pretend that they are Kevin Martin...Because EVERYONE else has a stable mind unlike you!

And this is coming from a guy who steals other people work and claims that it his?

The more you complain the dumber you sound Kevin Martin of scwxa.

People will ALWAYS listen to NWS BEFORE they would listen to some guy with out a degree..Yes you NO DEGREE Kevin Martin!

Since: Jul 09

Corona, CA

#5 Aug 5, 2009
Oh and folks the guy who replied from Aliso Viejo, CA is, Gary Robbins from the OC Register if you wanted to know this. He is an agent to the lesser NWS.
Mary in LA

Corona, CA

#6 Aug 5, 2009
You all need to chillz out and hugz one anotherz

I follow SCWXA more than NWS and trust the word of Martin more so, degreez or not.

This foo from Aliso Viejo southside of me has his own opinionz and does not speak for me or my friendz.

SCWXA is more accurate than NWS and he is probably working for NWS.

Since: Jul 09

Corona, CA

#7 Aug 5, 2009
Again, you say what you feel but MANY others do not feel that way kid. SCWXA is above NWS and more official to them and that is THEIR choice.

NWS will not exist in this region to many once funding is complete.
Packerfan10

Lakewood, CA

#8 Aug 5, 2009
Kevin Martin Crying AGAIN wrote:
Kevin Martin of scwxa...BOO HOO!
NWS is better than the 1 sick mind at swca...GET OVER IT!...
You state on your web site you have other Meteorologist's working for you and do forcasts there...well your the only one there making the forcasts.....
NWS has alot more people working for them than you do.........and they have DEGREE'S unlike you Kevin Martin with no DEGREE at scwxa....and you call your self a Profesional?....Then please try to act like one then....instead of a 24 year old kid looking for attenion....
I think it should be up to the individual if they want to listen to the SCWXA, NWS, or the people that they trust in. As long as someone has trust in someone the credentials should be of less importance. As someone who works in the computer industery a dirty little secreat is that most people go to school never finish getting degrees.

Since: Jul 09

Corona, CA

#9 Aug 5, 2009
Everyone flag the Viejo guy, he is committing a TOS violation for personal attacks. I have done so and likely he will be banned.
Kevin Martin Crying AGAIN

Irvine, CA

#10 Aug 5, 2009
"Everyone flag the Viejo guy, he is committing a TOS violation for personal attacks. I have done so and likely he will be banned."

sorry just stating facts!

I can't figure out how scwxa is the OFFICAL source for weather here in So. Calif as you have stated Kevin Martin of scwxa.....Can you please explaine this to me?....And what credentals scwxa has to make it offical?
Wynn

Los Angeles, CA

#11 Aug 5, 2009
SCWXA: In your original post, you stated Mr. Robbins will ban you or delete your comments in some suppression of freedom of speech. Well, can I ask you why you have done the same thing to me on your web site??? Are you not restricting my freedom of speech by banning me on the SCWXA's web site. All I do is ask legitimate questions about your forecasts and techniques. You really cannot have it both ways.

Anyone can follow any source they want for weather information. However, in my opinion, I would tend to follow the forecasts of individuals with degrees in Meteorology. No doubt every forecaster, whether NWS, SCWXA or any other company, misses a forecast from time to time. Heck, if I remember correctly, the SCWXA totally missed the beginning of the Jesusita Fire in SBA county. While the SCWXA had just a "wind advisory" with mention of no significant fire threat, the NWS had both a Red Flag Warning and High Wind Warning for the fire area. Just from that alone, I would place my trust with the NWS.

Since: Jul 09

Corona, CA

#12 Aug 5, 2009
IF you continue to follow me on other sites dishing your beliefs I will have legal actions against you for harassment and that is a promise. You keep your NWS beliefs to yourself
Kevin Martin Crying AGAIN

Irvine, CA

#13 Aug 5, 2009
"IF you continue to follow me on other sites dishing your beliefs I will have legal actions against you for harassment and that is a promise. You keep your NWS beliefs to yourself"
Kevin Martin of scwxa.....Do NOT tell other people not to post thier beliefs....When you say that YOUR freedom of speach has been suppressed so YOU have NO right to tell them to stop.....
You claim your freedom of speach has been vilolated by people who are MORE Respected in So. Calif.....and you have not earned RESPECT from anyone here in So. Calif.....So please keep your mouth shut and stop with your E Threats that will not go any where!
Kevin Martin of scwxa....I will say it again since YOU did NOT see it the FIRST time!
"The more you complain....the dumber you sound Kevin Martin of scwxa."
So Kevin Martin people WILL follow you to other sites and VOICE thier OWN opinions...
OOOHHHH NOOO's....Kevin Martin is E-Threating AGAIN!

Since: Jul 09

Corona, CA

#14 Aug 5, 2009
Stop calling me KM of SC. Kevin is fine, and you will call me that. You sound like a child. Also Gary, yo;u are just mad about the article. I know your ways Gary Robbins.
Stating the Facts

Carson City, NV

#15 Aug 5, 2009
SCWXA wrote:
IF you continue to follow me on other sites dishing your beliefs I will have legal actions against you for harassment and that is a promise. You keep your NWS beliefs to yourself
Many people have been following you to see what knuckleheaded posts you will make next over the internet and your site, mostly for humor and entertainment.

I still have to laugh at the post about a southern hemisphere storm transferred vorticity energy with cross equatorial energy into a northern hemisphere storm. In reality that North Pacific low has been meandering around for quite some time off the west coast for nearly two weeks. Anyone with any meteorology knowledge would know that saying this storm caused the 25 foot southerly swell is just knuckleheaded to say the least. That southerly swell came from a strong winter mid latitude storm that formed in the southern hemisphere in the South Pacific then later moved east into South America.

For someone who has such hatred toward NOAA/NWS, you should be greatful that NOAA and the NWS make their products and forecast models available to the general public. Before the internet age, much of this data was classified.

What will you think of next? You seem to have endless ideas of self promotion.

Since: Jul 09

Corona, CA

#16 Aug 5, 2009
If people pay taxes then the NWS is only good for those products, however the models are not NWSs development, they are of another company who made the numerical models, NWS only contracted them. Learn up ...

Also NV? You have no word in Southern California goodbye kid ...

Kevin Martin
SCWXA Meteorologist
Stating the Facts

Carson City, NV

#18 Aug 5, 2009
SCWXA wrote:
If people pay taxes then the NWS is only good for those products, however the models are not NWSs development, they are of another company who made the numerical models, NWS only contracted them. Learn up ...
Also NV? You have no word in Southern California goodbye kid ...
Kevin Martin
SCWXA Meteorologist
Kid..lol im nearly twice your age, son...you still have yet to answer the storm/southerly swell event you depict.

Even if they did contract that out, it simply doesn't matter. You can argue that all you want. YOU still montitor their products/models/satellite images to make YOUR forecasts.

Again, what will you think of next? Just a word of advice son, if you want people to respect your web site and forecasts, remove the politics and BS and stick to forecasting weather which you enjoy. Many will respect you more for not bringing the BS into your living room so to speak and perhaps gain your trust. At this time, you only bring negative attention to yourself by posting how your are more elite than the rest.

Since: Jul 09

Corona, CA

#19 Aug 5, 2009
I let people know what the media fails to do. I let people know this field is not full of respected degrees for the job and ALL outlets, media, SCWXA, and even the NWS are ALL OPINIONS and no one is more official than the rest.

Official word comes from the public's own mind, not anything else.

I teach people they can choose what they want, but I show them the flaws of the others. SCWXA has flaws, but they are fast being sorted out before we hit it bigtime with the funds coming in over the next few months.

The very reason I do what I do is because of what NWS did to me back when I was 18 and then again last year.

NWS told me they do not want me around and just be a SPOTTER for them. I tried to ask if they needed someone to do real-time field reporting for free and research but they said we do not WANT YOU. If they said something like no thanks, maybe in the future but THANK YOU anyway I would be nicer to them.

Last year, OWSweather now the SCWXA called an arctic blast to the area three weeks in advanced, before the GFS saw it, due to the UJEAS project which runs September through at least April. NWS called KTLA up and told them to remove our story and FORCED them to. They have no right to do that and they got an EAR FULL from me when I nailed them on the phone. KTLA said screw them and put the story back up.

Well NWS said it would not happen and the SW was hit by that arctic blast predicted first by the UJEAS program. I earned KTLA's full respect in the forecast department then ahead of the NWS and it was the best thing ever.

I called NWS and said DO NOT do that again, you are getting in my way of warning the public and gaining SCWXA on that map and they apologized and said it will not happen again. I talked directly to the Western Regional Headquarters boss about this.

THAT is why I do not like NWS. They change and respect, I will back, the end.

I know when SCWXA gets the rest of the funds and we open the major office and go regional with advertising etc and gain a huge audience that NWS will have to figure out a way to co-exist with SCWXA or come to an agreement because we both will exist in this area...

Kevin
Stating the Facts

Carson City, NV

#21 Aug 5, 2009
I know you have posted that information over several internet sources before in similar form. I can only say that it's fine that you don't agree with the NWS and their forecasts and most know that.
I write my own forecast discussion for my local area and don't necessarily agree with the thoughts of the NWS, but I don't pubically document that. We don't all have to agree with their forecast discussion, weather forecasts and watches and warnings. I do think that the forecast rigor they instill regards some respect in that they are required to help protect life and property. Will they always be right? NO. Will rain showers or thunderstorms always occur as forecast? NO. Will snow fall in the mountains with the accumlations they forecast? Likely it will be less than forecast. My point is that it is always best to error on the side of SOME caution. That's whats saves lives and property. Sometmes times they are wrong, but many times they are very accurate.
The SCWXA seems to have the resources to make a weather forecast presentation of the lcoal weather and that's fine. Since you have adopted the TV Media approach, you will be subject to much critisim by reposting your articles and videos over many media outlets. If you can take that fine, but you will need to know that you need to make sound scientific judgement in your forecast reasoning for your local area. While this requires knowledge of your local microclimates, sound synoptic, weather-climate linkage, teleconnections and various spacial weather asects are also required to make a sound forecast.
I try to to utilize all of that where I live. We have to deal with mountain orographics/shadowing, lake effect snow bands/enhancement in the winter at times from Lake Tahoe. In the summer, local convergence zones, afternoon zephyr conditions which cause local convergence and many other aspects in the local areas are all considered along with Storm Prediction Center parameters when factoring convective potential. At any rate, I could go on but not in the method of blogging. Relying on just numerical forecast models is extemely unscientific more than 36-48 hours out.
Stating the Facts

Carson City, NV

#22 Aug 5, 2009
My appology for no paragraph breaks when this was posted, they were there prior.

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