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Apple wrote:
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You are right .Take my house. It doesn't even have a mortgage.You deserve it
The banks are taking your homes because you idiots won't pay your mortgages. At least when your dump catches fire, we try to save it for you! Stop complaining about the salaries paid to people who save your property and life.
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Los Angeles, CA

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Jun 6, 2011
 

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Firefighter wrote:
<quoted text> The banks are taking your homes because you idiots won't pay your mortgages. At least when your dump catches fire, we try to save it for you! Stop complaining about the salaries paid to people who save your property and life.
Most people don't complain about firefighter salaries. They complain about:

1. the lack of 5 eight hour workdays

2. paid while sleeping

3. phony disability right before retirement

4. excessive overtime

5. excessive pensions

6. fully paid health care

7. nepotism
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Lindsay, CA

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Jun 7, 2011
 

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Anonymous wrote:
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Most people don't complain about firefighter salaries. They complain about:
1. the lack of 5 eight hour workdays
2. paid while sleeping
3. phony disability right before retirement
4. excessive overtime
5. excessive pensions
6. fully paid health care
7. nepotism
1. The stress of being at just one fire can be equal to working for a week! 2. We have to sleep because we are exhausted and fires can break out at any time. 3. Firefighters truly become disabled, and it is always certified by doctors. 4. Overtime is necessary because there are not enough firefighters to maintain full coverage and keep the public safe. 5. Our pensions are not "excessive, they are well deserved! 6. With the illnesses we develop from this job, we need and deserve fully paid healthcare! 7. Unfortunately, nepotism can be a part of any organization or industry.
Truth prevails

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Jun 7, 2011
 

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Firefighter wrote:
<quoted text> 1. The stress of being at just one fire can be equal to working for a week! 2. We have to sleep because we are exhausted and fires can break out at any time. 3. Firefighters truly become disabled, and it is always certified by doctors. 4. Overtime is necessary because there are not enough firefighters to maintain full coverage and keep the public safe. 5. Our pensions are not "excessive, they are well deserved! 6. With the illnesses we develop from this job, we need and deserve fully paid healthcare! 7. Unfortunately, nepotism can be a part of any organization or industry.
All old tired myths that have finally been debunked thanks to the internet information age. Next.
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Lindsay, CA

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All old tired myths that have finally been debunked thanks to the internet information age. Next.
Exactly. There are way too many idiots on here who are way more concerned about money than their own safety. Firefighters deserve every penny and benefit that we receive!
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Why can't you work an 8 hour shift and go home at the end of the shift?

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Shampoo wrote:
Why can't you work an 8 hour shift and go home at the end of the shift?
What? And deny their wives the abilities to have boyfriends on the side?
Union rules cover those rights for the wives (or husbands) of firefighters. By keeping the firefighters in the stationhouse for 4 days straight; this gives more potential 'guests' for the Maury Povich show - those episodes of 'Who's Your Daddy?' DNA testing labs stay in business, the show stays on the air, which keeps a whole lotta behind the scenes union members working - and fat ladies with nothing better to do get to sit in the studio audience.
The Union reach is long. If a Union firefighter like this guy had to go home at the end of an 8 hour shift; his wife won't have the chance to have another unemployed gigalo on the side.
Those Unions are something, aren't they?
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Hawthorne, CA

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people you need to write to your board of supervisors and city councils to end this abuse. If you can take the time to email on this blog you can take the time to write and email to the people who are going to get rid of the lazy bums.
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Hawthorne, CA

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#30
Jun 8, 2011
 
Anaheim FD just closed down an engine saving 1.9 million. its on the oc register today. this was due to residents not paying more taxes and standing up to city council.
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Modesto, CA

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overpaid wrote:
Anaheim FD just closed down an engine saving 1.9 million. its on the oc register today. this was due to residents not paying more taxes and standing up to city council.
Do you actually believe that all residents are happy when engines disappear? A reduction in response times mean that more homes will burn and residents will die.
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Anaheim FD just closed down an engine saving 1.9 million. its on the oc register today. this was due to residents not paying more taxes and standing up to city council.
We have to close down engines and stations because unionized fireplugs are too expensive and won't allow any volunteers to cut in on their action.

I am so happy that the government is crashing down around us because, as the Joker once said, "this town needs and enema." Goverment and its labor union extorters have resisted any and all change and efficies. Now you slobs won't have a choice.
Fingers

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Maybe we should resort back to the beginning; keeping it simple, there was no need for a fire department because we, the citizens made up the fire department. If there is a fire in our community, the closest citizens are the ones to walk off the job and go risk their lifes. If someone was having a heart attack, there was a 95% probability that you would die because not everyone around knew what to do.
Now this would eliminate the complaint department about lousy response time because you would be the one to be the responder at some point in your life.
There would be no salary disputes because it is all volunteer.
Now I do agree about the spoiled mentality here being taken to the outer limits of acceptability but, on the other hand to think that I, as a firefighter, need to risk my life for a bunch of whinning citizens who only slow down to look instead helping? Not on you life.
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Jun 9, 2011
 
Fingers wrote:
Maybe we should resort back to the beginning; keeping it simple, there was no need for a fire department because we, the citizens made up the fire department. If there is a fire in our community, the closest citizens are the ones to walk off the job and go risk their lifes. If someone was having a heart attack, there was a 95% probability that you would die because not everyone around knew what to do.
Now this would eliminate the complaint department about lousy response time because you would be the one to be the responder at some point in your life.
There would be no salary disputes because it is all volunteer.
Now I do agree about the spoiled mentality here being taken to the outer limits of acceptability but, on the other hand to think that I, as a firefighter, need to risk my life for a bunch of whinning citizens who only slow down to look instead helping? Not on you life.
Firefighters were supported until they took the overtime, pension, disability, work hours, training time to an excess level. That's not our fault.
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#35
Jun 9, 2011
 
Fingers, citizens do try to help (I be one of them ) BUT we get turned away because "we don't have the training" yeah we do whinne but that's only because soon enough the cities will be overburden with pensions that no matter what ,the need for HIGHER TAXES will be implemented ,I'm with Costa mesa to outsource the jobs to private companies that will eliminate the burden of pensions on the TAX PAYERS,... further more ,you chose you're line of work and risking you're life for us whinners was in the contract .......yeah yeah I can't spell worth a crap grammar is bad ,but I think I get my point across
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Fingers wrote:
Maybe we should resort back to the beginning; keeping it simple, there was no need for a fire department because we, the citizens made up the fire department. If there is a fire in our community, the closest citizens are the ones to walk off the job and go risk their lifes. If someone was having a heart attack, there was a 95% probability that you would die because not everyone around knew what to do.
Now this would eliminate the complaint department about lousy response time because you would be the one to be the responder at some point in your life.
There would be no salary disputes because it is all volunteer.
Now I do agree about the spoiled mentality here being taken to the outer limits of acceptability but, on the other hand to think that I, as a firefighter, need to risk my life for a bunch of whinning citizens who only slow down to look instead helping? Not on you life.
Nobody forces you to do this job, Sparky. Freaking quit. There are thousands of dudes and chicks willing to do it for less than half your compensation -- and do it better. SCRAM, Norma Rae. I'm sick of greedy union slugs like you screwing up my government.
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Modesto, CA

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Bureaucratic Mess wrote:
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Nobody forces you to do this job, Sparky. Freaking quit. There are thousands of dudes and chicks willing to do it for less than half your compensation -- and do it better. SCRAM, Norma Rae. I'm sick of greedy union slugs like you screwing up my government.
Sorry, but the whole point of having a union is to support job security and decent salaries for their members.

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Firefighter wrote:
<quoted text> Sorry, but the whole point of having a union is to support job security and decent salaries for their members.
And the whole point of eliminating the obsolete unions is to level the playing field. This is not to say that what you do is not appreciated. It is. However; you took the job knowing the risks; hazardous jobs are, by law (labor) compensated higher than 'desk jobs'. Part of that compensation is for you to set aside in the event of a personal catastrophe. That's what personal accountability is. Too much fraud, however, is being discovered especially when it comes to padding out the final year though cashing in unused vacation and outrageous disability claims in order to boost the pension. The vacation cash-out eligibility should be limited to the final year only where it boosts the pension (you should still get your back pay; it just shouldn't count as part of the total pension cost as it's NOT earned in that final year). Disability? If you didn't file a claim within a reasonable amount of time after the date of the 'injury'; it any disability pay should cause a pro-rated deduction from the pension pay - similar to that of a worker doing a part-time job after retiring. The amount he earns is matched against his social security check and a deduction from that check is made based on his part-time job.
Level playing field. In far too many cases; the union is obsolete. Its only purpose now is to support the union itself and generate funds for campaign contributions. The labor laws on the books due to earlier union efforts (yes, Unions once were important - vital - and everybody; no exception; has a lot to thank them for) are the protection the unions can no longer provide. Regarding health care costs? They're going up for everybody. Yet when, ahead of the grocers strike that may be immient, the companies send their employees the legally required notification of the Obamacare availability as an option; the Unions cry foul? The unions supported Obamacare; do they think that support renders their members exempt from it? Likewise, as I said - healthcare costs are going up for everybody. Companies are paying a larger share; why shouldn't employees? I don't like it. But I understand it. Should public sector employers absorb all the cost and the employees not, just 'cause they're union? Higher taxes are the result which affects even you. That - or fewer services.
Unions exemplify greed. In this economy; we are all in it together. It's interesting that the politicians which accept money from you tell us all that we have to sacrifice. What they don't tell us is that there are exeptions. They; and the Unions which bought them.
These days with information readily accessible via the internet and many referenced sources as a result they don't have to tell us. We can find out the truth for ourselves.
We know the truth of Obamacare and of the Public Sector Unions and the 'you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours' results of the negotiations over a couple of beers at a bar somewhere. We don't care if the government defaults. It will force a rebuilding and restructuring. There won't be a single incumbent left standing. Our debtors will be dealing with a new government which does represent the nation. A fresh start. Painful. Slow. But necessary.
Unions won't be a part of it. Only people. Represented by a government 'of the people, by the people, for the people'.'People' is all inclusive. No special interests, no entitlements. Where each gives to their ability and gets back what they put in. And end to the Socialist Experiment and a return to a Representative Republic.
The way the United States was meant to be. Where the will of the people is the law of the land.
Too much money

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Firefighter wrote:
<quoted text> Sorry, but the whole point of having a union is to support job security and decent salaries for their members.
Your salaries and benefits are way too high. We can no longer afford them! The only way this is ever going to change is when we finally stop electing the politicians who make these agreements with the unions, and unfortunately I don't see that happening anytime soon.
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How often do they even battle a fire ? I can't remember any firemen running into a burning building.
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How often do they even battle a fire ? I can't remember any firemen running into a burning building.
They're getting to the point where they send robots in; remote control, cameras, etc. No liability or disability. Pretty soon; you're going to have Fire Chiefs, tech wizards and operators.
You can't unionize a robot and any hacker with a sense of pride will program these drones for peanuts. It's in the DNA. You'll only need the clean-up crew. Couple of bulldozers and a few dump trucks. Tiny Tony's City Maintenance workers haul the wreckage to a landfill. Actual firefighting becomes obsolete. Firemen will be a thing of the past.
I wonder how the unions will take it? Membership down even further.
Less money to spend buying a politician. They'll have a 'fire sale'!

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