Anonymous

Tujunga, CA

#18766 Feb 2, 2013
my posts will not post. this is a test
IKnow

Jackson, TN

#18767 Feb 2, 2013
Good.
Anonymous

Tujunga, CA

#18768 Feb 2, 2013
Jamrey, let me say once again that I do not know Dennis. Of course, I have heard of him and never heard anything bad about him. I certainly never knew Johnny and his parents, but I can certainly understand why they sent Johnny away. I also have said I did not know W.O. but do know his siblings. I went to church with some of them at Foote Street Church of Christ and always liked them. They grew up on Taylor street in Corinth just 3 blocks from my grandparents. I know W.O. was a state liner, owned a car wash and the General's Quarters' in Corinth. It is told that when W.O. owned it that it was a brothel.
You can check this information out on the General's Quarters' website. This story is told to all who visit this place. I also know that behind the house on Taylor street there were 3 or 4 little houses and some say they were for prostitution. I never did believe this, but those houses are still talked about today. I know Jimmy Hathcock and Paul Timlake own Liddon Lake and that Jimmy was or still is a jeweler. I never knew Louise, thank God. I ask many questions about her and read about her in the paper and in some old court documents. I must say I always heard she was a mean human being. If Mike Elam wants to continue to say the state line got a bad rap then he is truly a mental case. Walk the streets in Corinth, Selmer or Adamsville and ask decent and honest people and they will tell you about those years. I still remember the billboard on the line advertising country ham and gravy to lure the travelers on hwy 45 to stop in.

Let me make this quite clear again. I believe there was an ambush and the shooter did not know Pauline was in the car. Mike Elam will never prove differently and if he could he would by simply giving all of that he/said/she/said info. to authorities and allow them to reopen the case. He would rather scream, shout and carry on about his so called research than to even think about proving it.
cgg

Waynesville, MO

#18769 Feb 2, 2013
bicycle6567 wrote:
Jamrey, let me say once again that I do not know Dennis. Of course, I have heard of him and never heard anything bad about him. I certainly never knew Johnny and his parents, but I can certainly understand why they sent Johnny away. I also have said I did not know W.O. but do know his siblings. I went to church with some of them at Foote Street Church of Christ and always liked them. They grew up on Taylor street in Corinth just 3 blocks from my grandparents. I know W.O. was a state liner, owned a car wash and the General's Quarters' in Corinth. It is told that when W.O. owned it that it was a brothel.
You can check this information out on the General's Quarters' website. This story is told to all who visit this place. I also know that behind the house on Taylor street there were 3 or 4 little houses and some say they were for prostitution. I never did believe this, but those houses are still talked about today. I know Jimmy Hathcock and Paul Timlake own Liddon Lake and that Jimmy was or still is a jeweler. I never knew Louise, thank God. I ask many questions about her and read about her in the paper and in some old court documents. I must say I always heard she was a mean human being. If Mike Elam wants to continue to say the state line got a bad rap then he is truly a mental case. Walk the streets in Corinth, Selmer or Adamsville and ask decent and honest people and they will tell you about those years. I still remember the billboard on the line advertising country ham and gravy to lure the travelers on hwy 45 to stop in.
Let me make this quite clear again. I believe there was an ambush and the shooter did not know Pauline was in the car. Mike Elam will never prove differently and if he could he would by simply giving all of that he/said/she/said info. to authorities and allow them to reopen the case. He would rather scream, shout and carry on about his so called research than to even think about proving it.
I have to agree with you there - it would be a really great thing if that case was reopened. Mike doesn't scream - it only seems that way to you all because you don't like what he has to say. So if you don't like what he says, why don't you prove him wrong?
statesrightser

Fargo, ND

#18770 Feb 2, 2013
cgg wrote:
<quoted text>
Very good Mike - even illiterate idiots like the propusser people should be able to understand what you have written, but in the death of Louise Hathcock you didn't mention the shot to the head. Why did Pusser think that was necessary? Anybody have an answer for that? Yes - he did shoot her in the head while she was on the floor - after he shot her in the back twice. Yes - he's a real hero (NOT)he had to shoot a woman in the back twice.
Probably because he almost just died seconds before, he was shocked, his adrenalin was pumping, he didn't like her ass to begin with, and he wanted to make damned sure no more 158gr slugs were coming outta THAT little gun.
statesrightser

Fargo, ND

#18771 Feb 2, 2013
cgg wrote:
<quoted text>
I have to agree with you there - it would be a really great thing if that case was reopened. Mike doesn't scream - it only seems that way to you all because you don't like what he has to say. So if you don't like what he says, why don't you prove him wrong?
Yes, let's reopen it. That way can we go out and re-interview all the corpses. Follow Elam to the graveyard. CASE CLOSED on who was at fault in the deaths of PP and LH. CASE CLOSED.
Anonymous

Tujunga, CA

#18772 Feb 2, 2013
cgg, we all know you live only in fruitcake's head. Guess what, the burden of proof does not lie on us, but of course how would you know that? Even if you were a real person, I could never like you, for your character is one of many different colors. When you go back inside Elam's head tell him it is his place to prove this. Also, tell him if he doesn't want this to be a fight site then stay the hell away from it.
statesrightser

Fargo, ND

#18773 Feb 2, 2013
cgg wrote:
<quoted text>
I can make a fairly good guess why the parents of that boy would send him away to protect him. Good things did not happen to those who got in the way.
Well let's see why they might send him away? Hmmm, a team of killers affiliated with that rat's nest at stateline had just carried out assassination attempt on a sheriff, killing his wife in a most brutal fashion and shooting Pusser into disfigurement and left for dead. 18 months before that, another stateline gem, Aunt Lou tried to cap Pusser and ate a 210gr .41 magnum for her trouble. If they were still murdering people after Lou got her's, what else mioght they do to any perceived witnesses.

You are right, cgg (for once), good things did not happen to those that got in the way - of Tow and stateliners.

Of course, your absurd suggestion is that the "Pusser machine (non-existent)" would roll over them if they didn't flee for their lives. Why? What did they see that hurt Pusser so badly. Isn't it at least equally likely they saw something that might hurt some other people?

Btw, I've never heard why the two young'uns were out and about at...4:30 am at that particular location. Were they milk boys or paper delivery boys or what? I honestly never read that factoid.
statesrightser

Fargo, ND

#18774 Feb 2, 2013
mikeelam wrote:
Hopefully, what I have posted today proves that some people are not here for serious discussion. They want a "fight forum". Well, why don't they just go start one elsewhere and leave those of us who are serious about learning the true story alone so we can pursue the truth? It might be different if some of these people actually contributed something occasionally ..., but they don't. All they have are their hero worshiping opinions.
I too was once blinded by the Pusser legend, but thankfully I had enough intelligence and drive to question the things that didn't make sense. One thing led to another and soon I learned just what a farce the legend is.
Mike
And you are still blinded Elam.
IKnow

Jackson, TN

#18775 Feb 2, 2013
I know W.O. was a state liner, owned a car wash and the General's Quarters' in Corinth. It is told that when W.O. owned it that it was a brothel.
You can check this information out on the General's Quarters' website. This story is told to all who visit this place. I also know that behind the house on Taylor street there were 3 or 4 little houses and some say they were for prostitution. I never did believe this, but those houses are still talked about today. I know Jimmy Hathcock and Paul Timlake own Liddon Lake and that Jimmy was or still is a jeweler.

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Like i stated earlier you do not need any help in making yourself look foolish. Maybe no person will tell you different and let you keep posting shat that shows you are nuts and don't have a clue. You have to be one of those ignorant broke girls that came to Corinth on a bus to work for Ms. Emma at the Nightfall.
Anonymous

Tujunga, CA

#18776 Feb 2, 2013
States, do these people drink, can't read, or just retarded. How many times do I have to tell them I do not know Dennis. Have you noticed that when W.O. is brought up, they never comment?
Anonymous

Tujunga, CA

#18777 Feb 2, 2013
IKnow wrote:
I know W.O. was a state liner, owned a car wash and the General's Quarters' in Corinth. It is told that when W.O. owned it that it was a brothel.
You can check this information out on the General's Quarters' website. This story is told to all who visit this place. I also know that behind the house on Taylor street there were 3 or 4 little houses and some say they were for prostitution. I never did believe this, but those houses are still talked about today. I know Jimmy Hathcock and Paul Timlake own Liddon Lake and that Jimmy was or still is a jeweler.
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Like i stated earlier you do not need any help in making yourself look foolish. Maybe no person will tell you different and let you keep posting shat that shows you are nuts and don't have a clue. You have to be one of those ignorant broke girls that came to Corinth on a bus to work for Ms. Emma at the Nightfall.
Would you like to tell me which part of what I posted is wrong. You crazy ignorant redneck. Go ahead tell me.
statesrightser

Fargo, ND

#18778 Feb 2, 2013
bicycle6567 wrote:
<quoted text> States, this has turned into the damnest pot full of crap I have ever seen.
Yeh, bike, nine months ago when I visited here, I just assumed that I would find some local folks and others from up that way that might have some interesting anecdotes and information about those times, places and the people; maybe some references to some photos or books written about it. My interest had been peaked after reading "Mississippi Mud." One page in that book mentions Nix and Pusser, and Nix's likely responsibility for PP's death. That got me interested and here I landed. I never dreamed there'd be a bunch of folks on here (probably one or two at most) spinning yarns and lies trying to pass the moral and, if it were possible, the legal responsibility for PP and LH deaths to...Buford Pusser! And I thought he was a hero! But I had no dog in the fight, didn't know Pussers and am from a different generation than BuPusser. I saw the flick in '73 and maybe one time since, as well as the absurd (though entertaining) part II, and hadn't thought of Pusser in many years when I read of him in Hume's book, mentioned above.

When I saw what was really being alleged here, by a guy claiming to be a former LEO (not that that has to mean much, believe me), I was rather shocked. His claims to be writing a book, doing tours of McN County and doing videos (which, upon viewing, were less than helpful in supporting his innuendo) peaked my interest even more, and it kind of angered me that this guy was basically accusing Pusser of being responsible for mass corruption of his office and of LAUNCHING TWO MURDER CONSPIRACIES regarding the very two events that solidified Pusser as a legend: 2/1/66 and 8/12/67.

I'm not into legend worship and I don't even believe in getting autographs, but this kinda turned my crank. I thought the basis for what he was doing was non-existent. When I jumped in and began challenging him on a variety of obvious points that make his innuendo look ridiculous...

(note I never call his notions "theories" because by definition a theory is at least something where SPECIFICS are spelled out by the proponent of the theory - Elam never commits, and that's all I needed to know- it was all a poisoned game designed to pay Pusser and family back for those times and, above all, for that damned movie and the grubby money that followed)

... he and his akas went CRAZY. Go back into May 1 time frame and come forward a few months. It was unbelievable. Elam once dragged my sex life into the discussion because he decided I had nothing better to do than blow his ass out of the water and I must have no life (he, of course, cannot apply that same query to himself). That told me all I needed to know. If anyone had anything persuasive to say to undermine the verdicts of history on such a somber topic as the violent deaths of two people, he/they wouldn't act like they did/do. It was all a hillbilly game of revenge, greed and jealousy, with a key ingredient of shameless lying, the sheer volume and magnitude of the lies and ignoring any logical challenge (based on accepted facts or common snese based thereon) is still somewhat shocking and puzzling...to me, at least. It's enough to make one think liars in Arkansas are worse by nature than the ones I've encountered in MS, but I suspect it's limited to Elam and this baseless obsession.

So, while I have a barbed pen in dealing with idiots and malcontents, that wasn't my plan...not at all, when first arriving in this ridgerunner twilight zone. Elam is the reason, as you say, that this forum of HIS is, as you say, a pot full of crap and only he can remedy it. He can admit he has no information that even begins to change the two key points that he is really interested in: the two shootings. He can also come clean about his real motives in pursuing something like this for a decade or more on multiple fora. Not likely since we are, imo, dealing with pathology.
guest

Humboldt, TN

#18779 Feb 2, 2013
cgg wrote:
<quoted text>I have to agree with you there - it would be a really great thing if that case was reopened. Mike doesn't scream - it only seems that way to you all because you don't like what he has to say. So if you don't like what he says, why don't you prove him wrong?
Because he has to prove the legend is wrong
statesrightser

Fargo, ND

#18780 Feb 2, 2013
bicycle6567 wrote:
States, do these people drink, can't read, or just retarded. How many times do I have to tell them I do not know Dennis. Have you noticed that when W.O. is brought up, they never comment?
bike, you have to face you are dealing with committed dishonesty and, in Elam's case, probably pathology (10 yrs + of pure, malicious lies [Pusser muurdered LH/PP] cannot be explained even by familial hatred or money). Not much reasoning with that, in my experience. I don't even post for them. If I knew that's all that was out there, I'd cease and desist.
Anonymous

Tujunga, CA

#18781 Feb 2, 2013
States, you know jamery writes me a post and I answered him honestly. I told him the things I know about the Hathcocks, facts that can be verified, When he responded in the way he did it proves to me how vicious these people are. There was nothing in my post that wasn't true and he knows it. He told the whole story with his post - they can't take the truth. There lies are vicious. I did not ride into Corinth on a bus to work for Emma, but I tell you one thing, Emma was not as low down and dirty as this bunch. Makes her look like a sunday school teacher. You see if they knew a thing about Corinth, Selmer, Henderson or Adamsville, they would know who I am because I am still to this day known as the little girl on her bicycle, but who would ever try to figure that out. It is easier just to call me a liar.

Since: Jul 09

Springdale, AR

#18782 Feb 2, 2013
I truly want to thank Statesrightser for his response as he proves my point form my earlier post. Frankly speaking, I was anticipating a better response. He failed, AS USUAL, to provide anything with which to back his OPINIONS.

That's right folks...statesrightser replied with nothing more than more than personal attacks. That should tell everyone something.

Statesrightser..., people now see through your nonsense. If you had anything of substance, you would have presented it. You would have wanted to embarrass me with it.

But lets look at what just happened. You failed to counter the state sanctioned autopsy report on Louise Hathcock. You gave us NOTHING as to why the autopsy report was not shown to the grand jury.

You also failed miserably to prove that Pusser never accepted payoffs. You never addressed, the myths that a young Pusser watched as Louise Hathcock beat a sailor to death with a hammer at the White Iris in 1954-55, years before it was even built . You did not counter with any proof whatsoever to show that Pusser was ever attacked at the Plantation Club, or that he ever used a big stick in the process. Where are your witnesses, police reports, medical records or photos of his scars?

Then, there is the alleged ambush. You were COMPLETELY without any proof whatsoever in countering what THE REAL EVIDENCE shows.

You sir, validated my earlier comments about you and the others who post like you. You have NOTHING to contribute to the conversation here.
As I said in my earlier post..., all you want is to turn this into a "fight forum".

You can insult people, but regardless of what you believe...you can't make your word stick as you have proven yourself to be a liar.

I said that "it must suck to be you"..., and I want to thank you for proving me once again to be right.

Mike

Since: Jul 09

Springdale, AR

#18783 Feb 2, 2013
bicycle6567 wrote:
States, you know jamery writes me a post and I answered him honestly. I told him the things I know about the Hathcocks, facts that can be verified, When he responded in the way he did it proves to me how vicious these people are. There was nothing in my post that wasn't true and he knows it. He told the whole story with his post - they can't take the truth. There lies are vicious. I did not ride into Corinth on a bus to work for Emma, but I tell you one thing, Emma was not as low down and dirty as this bunch. Makes her look like a sunday school teacher. You see if they knew a thing about Corinth, Selmer, Henderson or Adamsville, they would know who I am because I am still to this day known as the little girl on her bicycle, but who would ever try to figure that out. It is easier just to call me a liar.
Bicycle are you married to Statesrightser? You sound as if you would make the perfect couple.
Alfred

Netherlands

#18784 Feb 2, 2013
bicycle your beef is with WO Hathcock. now what is the connection? Did WO screw your wife? did WO. screw you? clear the air. Everythng you post goes back to W O Hathcock. Is WO Hathcock your daddy?

Since: Jul 09

Springdale, AR

#18785 Feb 2, 2013
guest wrote:
<quoted text>
Because he has to prove the legend is wrong
I already have..., your just not smart enough to understand that.

If you are so smart, explain to use how Pusser could have witnessed Louise Hathcock beating a sailor to death at the White Iris as a high school student.

Go ahead smart guy...don't back away like the coward we all know you to be. Show us a little proof. We can start with that one then we will move on.

Are you up to the challenge?

Mike

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