Chambersburg Area Education Associati...

Chambersburg Area Education Association teachers' vote may lead to a strike

There are 191 comments on the Public Opinion story from Dec 8, 2010, titled Chambersburg Area Education Association teachers' vote may lead to a strike. In it, Public Opinion reports that:

The Chambersburg Area Education Association voted Wednesday to accept a state fact-finder's report by an overwhelming majority.

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In the Know

Jersey Shore, PA

#183 Dec 16, 2010
Anon wrote:
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Mr./Mrs. School Board Member, you try to twist things well it appears. You are wrong. Many, many of the teachers (any of them with more than 13 years experience) would get no step increase that you are fabricating. They'd only get the 1.5-1.79% raises. Nice of you to let out that little tidbit.
If you are "in the know" then you'll also admit here in the forum that the deal the board had before them earlier in the Fall was even better for the district than the one based on facts from the Fact Finder. The raises were smaller (basically non-existant) and the concessions on healthcare would have **** the teachers more than the Fact Finder report proposed. Basically sir/madam, the board blew a chance to have a better deal for the district and now your amateur behavior is going to bite you in the rear. Have a great day being "in the know".
They may have blown a better opportunity, I have no idea and unless you are an insider neither do you. But saying that the minimum teacher salary raises are 1.5-1.79% as it says in the report, is still more than you union shills have been saying. Since when is 1.5-1.79%, no requested increase? Plus, the union gets fair share which forces every teacher to pay union dues regardless of whether they want to join the union. But the teachers asked for nothing, of course.
abc

Spring Grove, PA

#184 Dec 16, 2010
In the Know wrote:
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They may have blown a better opportunity, I have no idea and unless you are an insider neither do you. But saying that the minimum teacher salary raises are 1.5-1.79% as it says in the report, is still more than you union shills have been saying. Since when is 1.5-1.79%, no requested increase? Plus, the union gets fair share which forces every teacher to pay union dues regardless of whether they want to join the union. But the teachers asked for nothing, of course.
To clarify: When I say we are not asking for "more," I mean that when I was hired, I was presented with projections of what my pay increases could be expected to be over the course of my career. I am only asking that administation attempt to deliver what they lured me in with when my salary/benefit package was presented upon hire. I bought the "tough times" arguement until the fact finder took the position that the district does already have the funds to follow through.
Mr Schwump

Shippensburg, PA

#185 Dec 16, 2010
So why doesn't the teachers union pull the fair share off the table and see if Mr. Blowers finds the deal a lot better. He stated something that any bill with fair share in it would be dead in the water. Was he just saying nonsense or talking for real. I believe his wife is a teacher, I'd love to know how things are in that household right now.
In the Know

Jersey Shore, PA

#186 Dec 17, 2010
abc wrote:
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To clarify: When I say we are not asking for "more," I mean that when I was hired, I was presented with projections of what my pay increases could be expected to be over the course of my career. I am only asking that administation attempt to deliver what they lured me in with when my salary/benefit package was presented upon hire. I bought the "tough times" arguement until the fact finder took the position that the district does already have the funds to follow through.
Times change. If you get any raise you are better off than 8.6% of Pennsylvanians who are unemployed, the retirees whose social security benefits are not going up, and the federal workers who have their pay frozen. Why should taxes go up to take money from them to pay you? Teachers are not badly paid when you take into account their pay, benefits and retirement. How many teachers will lose their jobs under this contract proposal. How many teachers left lost their jobs last year to save cost cutting measures?
Toby

Greencastle, PA

#187 Dec 17, 2010
Mr Schwump wrote:
Amazed at the hatred spewed upon the teachers in this town. It's not like this many other places. I'm surprised people haven't Reginald Denny'd a few school teachers around here. If I were an educator, I'd be afraid for my safety around here.
A 1.7% raise! That's outrageous.

I find it difficult to understand how the teachers are to blame when little Johnny doesn't get the grades mommy and daddy wanted.

What are some of the variables involved in educating your child? Let's consider a classroom with 30 students. All 30 take the same class, at the same time, have the same assignments, hear the same information presented in class, take the same tests and have the same teacher.

Some children work very hard and want to learn. Other children don't work at all and have no real interest in learning. Others are in between. Some will get a's , some b's, some c's, some d's and even F's. Is this the teachers fault? What is the variable in this equation?

If the teacher taught the subject matter well enough that some students learned and earned an A's worth of knowledge, they did a good job. If other children do not earn A's, it's the teacher's fault?
wgs

Gettysburg, PA

#188 Jan 6, 2011
My girlfriend is a teacher in this district. She works late everynight after the kids leave for the day. She works anywhere from 4:30 Till 6:00 PM every school night. She gets no overtime or any credit for her efforts but she loves her job. When she gets home she puts in another 2-3 hours on school work plus on the weekend. I'm sure many other teachers do the same. Don't form opinins about teachers until you know the full story.
Overtaxed

Greencastle, PA

#189 Jan 6, 2011
abc wrote:
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To clarify: When I say we are not asking for "more," I mean that when I was hired, I was presented with projections of what my pay increases could be expected to be over the course of my career. I am only asking that administation attempt to deliver what they lured me in with when my salary/benefit package was presented upon hire. I bought the "tough times" arguement until the fact finder took the position that the district does already have the funds to follow through.
And you were hired 1, 5, 10, 20 what years ago? Those are projections based on the past. It was not a promise. If you actually READ the fact finders report, the district would use up the surplus this year to give the teachers a raise. It is prudent to have a surplus... I am always happy when I have a surplus at the end of the month. I can save it for unplanned expenses - like your retirement fund!
chris

Chambersburg, PA

#190 Jan 4, 2012
Let's pick out some teachers to work 6 or 7 days week 10 to 12 hours’ days same as small business owner and complain about there wages and benefits in my opinion local county state and government workers should consider taking a cut like most of tax payers (the good old days are gone) the economy is falling apart and teachers asking for increase in pay
[Give me a break]
Dan the Man

Burnt Cabins, PA

#191 Jan 4, 2012
chris wrote:
Let's pick out some teachers to work 6 or 7 days week 10 to 12 hours’ days same as small business owner and complain about there wages and benefits in my opinion local county state and government workers should consider taking a cut like most of tax payers (the good old days are gone) the economy is falling apart and teachers asking for increase in pay
[Give me a break]
I'll say this much - all your English teachers should definitely be penalized in some way.
Ed Gennaro

Scranton, PA

#192 Mar 7, 2012
chris wrote:
Let's pick out some teachers to work 6 or 7 days week 10 to 12 hours’ days same as small business owner and complain about there wages and benefits in my opinion local county state and government workers should consider taking a cut like most of tax payers (the good old days are gone) the economy is falling apart and teachers asking for increase in pay
[Give me a break]
I'll give you a break if you'll give us a period or comma or something next time. Functioning illiterates shouldn't be allowed to post on education issues.
concerned parent

Shippensburg, PA

#193 Oct 5, 2017
Your totally WRONG!

Really????
Ummm....it's YOU'RE as in, "you are".
Hope that wasn't an educator that incorrectly wrote that.

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