Chambersburg Area Education Associati...

Chambersburg Area Education Association teachers' vote may lead to a strike

There are 190 comments on the Public Opinion story from Dec 8, 2010, titled Chambersburg Area Education Association teachers' vote may lead to a strike. In it, Public Opinion reports that:

The Chambersburg Area Education Association voted Wednesday to accept a state fact-finder's report by an overwhelming majority.

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amazed

Elizabethtown, PA

#2 Dec 9, 2010
my opinion wrote:
I say if the teachers don't want to work, then get read of them. There a lot of people out there that can do the saame job, with out the stinken unioms. That is what the matter with this great country. I never yet seen anything good came from a union.
They really need to strike and soon. There are many qualifed people ready to jump right in that would be thankful to have a paycheck, benefits, etc. Do you know how many of us don't get raises, holding our breathe as to health ins., etc. etc. GREED and more GREED. what a fine example you are setting for our children. Thanks.
Hard Truth

Scranton, PA

#3 Dec 9, 2010
Let the greedy, arrogant, and bloated teachers strike. Then fire 'em all and bring people that care about educating our children rather than soaking the public for every cent they can get.
curious girl

Carlisle, PA

#4 Dec 9, 2010
my opinion wrote:
I say if the teachers don't want to work, then get read of them. There a lot of people out there that can do the saame job, with out the stinken unioms. That is what the matter with this great country. I never yet seen anything good came from a union.
That's a good point. I'm curious to know how many people are qualified to teach? I believe that means having a bachelor's degree in education and having passed the state examinations for certification. Do we have enough folks with those credentials to replace our current teachers? If we do, then their might be a simple solution. If not, things get more difficult.
i have gas

Reedsville, PA

#5 Dec 9, 2010
my opinion wrote:
I say if the teachers don't want to work, then get read of them. There a lot of people out there that can do the saame job, with out the stinken unioms. That is what the matter with this great country. I never yet seen anything good came from a union.
YEAH! Get READ of them all!
Embedded Citizen

Chambersburg, PA

#6 Dec 9, 2010
More hot air and saber rattling.
When will you teachers break those Union chains and take control of your own future?
Concerned

Newport, PA

#7 Dec 9, 2010
According to state law, no one is brought in to teach the students while the teachers are on strike. The district will be closed during the teacher strike - if it does occur.
amazed

Elizabethtown, PA

#8 Dec 9, 2010
Hard Truth wrote:
Let the greedy, arrogant, and bloated teachers strike. Then fire 'em all and bring people that care about educating our children rather than soaking the public for every cent they can get.
Couldn't agree with you more...well said.
DGS

Catonsville, MD

#9 Dec 9, 2010
Do any of you posters realize that the union agreed to accept no pay raise and pay more of their health care costs but the school board turned them down? What is greedy about that? Accepting less than you got last year knowing that the economic times are difficult for many in our community is a mature consideration on behalf of the union, yet all you can say is get rid of them and hire replacements. The article mentions 3 school districts in Pennsylvania that have gone on strike. One is in Bethel Park, a suburb of Pittsburgh. A 15 year teacher with a masters degree averages $95,000 there. A 30 year teacher with a masters degree in Chambersburg gets a little over $60,000. With the educational requirements placed on teachers by the "system", they are not overpaid. Others with similar educational backgrounds get significantly more.
Jerky Boy

Chambersburg, PA

#10 Dec 9, 2010
It's not about teaching or pay, it's about POWER! The unions have made it impossible for your kids to get a real education, that's why the USA is in the bottom 15% worldwide when it comes to achievement. If you want to remedy this situation you have to cut off the head of the snake: the unions nationwide.
Anon

Pomeroy, PA

#11 Dec 9, 2010
Again, the local yokles grab their anti-educator pitchforks and head to the town square to riot. You obviously have paid ZERO attention to the situation. The teachers accepted the fact-finder compromise, they weren't holding out for more. They agreed to the mediators proposal. In fact, they also agreed to an earlier proposal that was even worse for them than this fact-finder deal, with the DISTRICT'S PAID NEGOTIATOR, and again the board voted it down.

It's not the teachers holding out for more here this time, it's the clueless board that has lost all sense of realistic negotiation.

However, that won't stop the overwhelming majority from complaining about the teachers. If there is a strike, this one's on the board. They are the ones who turned down the agreed proposals twice, not the other way around.
LWG

Carlisle, PA

#12 Dec 9, 2010
In the light of the current recession and the high unemployment rate be thankful that you have a job. Do not bite the hand that provides you with a job.
Grnshirt

Chambersburg, PA

#13 Dec 9, 2010
If the school board can afford to build state of the art buildings, they can afford to compensate the employees (teachers) fairly also. This is like a homeowner building a 4,000 square foot home, and not having money in their budget to heat it in the winter. Poor planning or someone crying wolf.
Anon also

Chambersburg, PA

#14 Dec 9, 2010
I feel that if the district wouldn't have had to make multi-million dollar renovations maybe they would have a little more money to spend on the teachers budgets. I do not feel that all the renovations were necessary that they made to the high school!
wow

Spring Grove, PA

#16 Dec 9, 2010
my opinion wrote:
I say if the teachers don't want to work, then get read of them. There a lot of people out there that can do the saame job, with out the stinken unioms. That is what the matter with this great country. I never yet seen anything good came from a union.
wow. whoever was your teacher needs to be fired!
wow23

Spring Grove, PA

#17 Dec 9, 2010
last month the board voted down a teachers contract that included less pay and more out of pocket for education and health care, yet added TWO administrative positions. yet no one thinks there's a problem with that???
Think about it

Carlisle, PA

#18 Dec 9, 2010
I don't understand something.

IF the teachers have agreed to accept a pay increase of zero... and

IF they are working on the terms of the old contract ended last June... and

IF the board cannot decrease their salary or benefits during negotiations...

WHY are they considering a strike.

Must be the egos of union leaders at both the local level and PSEA are banging up against the administration and board, to the detriment of the individual teachers and students???
CASHS Parent

Newville, PA

#19 Dec 9, 2010
DGS wrote:
Do any of you posters realize that the union agreed to accept no pay raise and pay more of their health care costs but the school board turned them down? What is greedy about that? Accepting less than you got last year knowing that the economic times are difficult for many in our community is a mature consideration on behalf of the union, yet all you can say is get rid of them and hire replacements. The article mentions 3 school districts in Pennsylvania that have gone on strike. One is in Bethel Park, a suburb of Pittsburgh. A 15 year teacher with a masters degree averages $95,000 there. A 30 year teacher with a masters degree in Chambersburg gets a little over $60,000. With the educational requirements placed on teachers by the "system", they are not overpaid. Others with similar educational backgrounds get significantly more.
Oh please! Where did you get your info? I know of several teachers with only 22 years with a salary of over 63000.00 a year, the best pension known to the state, great health care with minimal co-pays and a great 13 week summer vacation. The job may be difficult at times but sit at the High School, Middle School or Faust any given day and watch the teachers rolling out with the students. I would love to work the hours they work.
same as always

Chambersburg, PA

#20 Dec 9, 2010
I wonder if we will ever know all the facts??
Old Trojan

Greencastle, PA

#21 Dec 9, 2010
DGS wrote:
Do any of you posters realize that the union agreed to accept no pay raise and pay more of their health care costs but the school board turned them down? What is greedy about that? Accepting less than you got last year knowing that the economic times are difficult for many in our community is a mature consideration on behalf of the union, yet all you can say is get rid of them and hire replacements. The article mentions 3 school districts in Pennsylvania that have gone on strike. One is in Bethel Park, a suburb of Pittsburgh. A 15 year teacher with a masters degree averages $95,000 there. A 30 year teacher with a masters degree in Chambersburg gets a little over $60,000. With the educational requirements placed on teachers by the "system", they are not overpaid. Others with similar educational backgrounds get significantly more.
I don't know what the teachers may or may not have agreed to but what I do know is this is NOT the Pittsburgh area.
X Chambersburg Resident

United States

#22 Dec 9, 2010
Just remodel the high school for about $5 million plus; and then remodel/rebuild it again for five times that amount a few years later! Oh! And don't forget to build a multi-million dollar stadium/field for a horrible football program!(Good track program! Should have just built a new track and bleachers...and not the NFL-type field!) THAT...is a great way to use tax dollars.

The teachers should have been complaining about the SPENDING years ago and then maybe the money would be there for an actual pay increase.

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