Adamsones' Appeal Filed

Adamsones' Appeal Filed

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Cincinnati, OH

#1 Jul 22, 2014
The filing is at http://www.browncountyclerkofcourts.org/cgi-b...

Somewhat interesting but pretty much same old, same old. Nothing is the SO's fault and the coroner is an evil, incompetent person (also a thief!) who has done all of the wrong things because her husband didn't beat the sheriff in an election 8 years ago.
Again

Cincinnati, OH

#2 Jul 22, 2014
That should read "Adamsons' appeal." It's too late to be typing!
car007

West Chester, OH

#3 Jul 23, 2014
Again wrote:
That should read "Adamsons' appeal." It's too late to be typing!
Yep :" same ol, same ol "....... Keep putting false things out there and perhaps at some point, someone, somewhere will possibly believe you ?

NAH, no one with any sense or half a brain in my opinion.

This is no more than another effort to create a " smokescreen " to keep the attention away from the " REAL " issue, BCSO and the jail death and other events that are in question.

OR, is someone just so far in bed with someone else, they cannot get out now ? Must be a very uncomfortable position to be in !

To my knowledge, the Adamsons have NEVER had any other contact with the Coroner before this, why is this so problematic now ?

WHO is the " Driving Force " on this ? WHY ? Political or Personal ?

Surely if Attorney Hawkins is doing this out of concern for the people of Brown County, I would say, Hogwash to that. If she truly were that concerned for the people of Brown County, she would help clean up the BCSO, where the real dirt seems to be.

The Coroner was NOT responsible for the death of Zachary Goldson or his welfare while in the custody of the BCSO. The Coroner was NOT responsible to investigate the events that might have lead up to the alleged suicide of Zach Adamson either.

I am not sure why the Adamsons have NOT filed any civil actions against those who were present at the site of the alleged suicide and possibly disturbed / tampered with evidence in what should have been an " Investigation " by the BCSO ?

NAH,,, going after ONLY the Coroner leaves NO Credibility in my mind on this for the Plaintiff.

The reason for doing so is far from whatever the " Real Truth " is and I feel it in my bones !

I am Car007 and I approve this message !
Jane

Carroll, OH

#4 Jul 23, 2014
Good for them.
So much for Steve

Delaware, OH

#5 Jul 23, 2014
. . . Adamson not taking any sides in this. He and Hawkins need the pants sued off of them. Keeping my fingers crossed they and all the petition circulators get their own summons as soon as this and the federal case are dispensed with. Both frivolous lawsuits.
Bud

Cincinnati, OH

#6 Jul 23, 2014
Since when is a deceased's social security a privacy issue? You can look any deceased person's social security number up on the SSA site. And I doubt illegal drug use is ever a matter of privacy. I doubt even a personal physician would be bound by patient confidentiality whe it concerns illegal activity and Varnau was certainly not his personal physician.

I don't know why these people are hellbent on destroying the coroner but it personal. Maybe it is to divert the attention from the SO. It did work for a while. Nice try.
car007

West Chester, OH

#7 Jul 23, 2014
Bud wrote:
Since when is a deceased's social security a privacy issue? You can look any deceased person's social security number up on the SSA site. And I doubt illegal drug use is ever a matter of privacy. I doubt even a personal physician would be bound by patient confidentiality whe it concerns illegal activity and Varnau was certainly not his personal physician.
I don't know why these people are hellbent on destroying the coroner but it personal. Maybe it is to divert the attention from the SO. It did work for a while. Nice try.
I couldn't get that website to open for me this morning, I will have to try again. I am guessing your comments are from the appeal ?
Gus

Dayton, OH

#8 Jul 23, 2014
Steve Adamson and Tracy Hawkins both need to be sued for filing a frivolous law suit.

They should have sued the BCSO for not doing their job.

Steve Adamson said he does not want to take sides, so why is the law suit not against the BCSO?

Steve Adamson is not going to get rid of the guilt he has for not helping his son buy suing anyone. It is a terrible thing to live with, but that was his choice. So suck it up Steve, you have a long time to think on it.
Bud

Cincinnati, OH

#9 Jul 23, 2014
car007 wrote:
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I couldn't get that website to open for me this morning, I will have to try again. I am guessing your comments are from the appeal ?
Yes, they're from the appeal.
car007

West Chester, OH

#10 Jul 23, 2014
Bud wrote:
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Yes, they're from the appeal.
HOLY MOLY !!!! I just finished reading the pages filed.

Let me first say, this is SOME kind of " Fishing Expedition " like NO OTHER I have ever seen before ! Good Luck on what you interpret to be the " Merits " of your case !

The Burglary charge is like something out of a comic book ; are you serious ? That is grasping at straws that do not exist beyond the ink that is put on the paper in my opinion.

All of this quoting of misfeasance, malfeasance, willful , wanton etc etc etc,,,, good lord, you could have inserted soo many others within the Brown County Administration in those same blocks and had a ' REAL " case in my opinion !

WHY has Hawkins NOT filed against them ?

After reading this, I am 100% Totally convinced there is NOTHING to be gained for the Adamson Family by this action ! This attorney has baited and set the hook into them , and for what ???? This MUST be draining them emotionally, just WHAT is in this for the Adamsons, if the decision is reversed ????????

I will not wish her good luck, I just hope the 12th district looks at this and finds it as ridiculous as I do ! Then I look forward to seeing some counter suits filed. Unfortuately, the Adamsons would probably be named in them also.... Again, NOTHING they should have to endure.

I wished they would just tell her to GO Away but I know that cannot happen.... I know we cannot pick our family, but we can pick our friends; I wished they had picked a better one who really cared about them and was not motivated by other factors.

Friends, DO NOT let friends " USE " you !
All fault of the Coroner

Delaware, OH

#11 Jul 23, 2014
Brown County Sheriff's Office Policy on Deaths

Section 7.01 Policy and Procedure Revision

Natural Causes i.e.; Under Doctor's Care or Hospice

Deputies will not respond, this is a Coroner's Case.

Accidental Deaths Any unnatural death due to accidental means

Deputies will respond and render first aid if applicable. When EMS or Coroner advises victim is deceased scene will be held by Deputy, and turned over to Coroner, this is a Coroner's Case. Deputies will then leave the scene. At no time will a Deputy gather evidence, take photos, or do anything to process or disturb the scene if the victim is deceased. If the victim is alive and transported by EMS, follow the usual procedure at a scene.

Suspicious Death Any unexplained Death i.e.; Suicide, Homicide, etc.

Deputies will clear building and/or immediate area for other victims, make the scene safe, disturbing nothing. Render First Aid if applicable, and have EMS check victim. If victim declared deceased, scene will be secured and turned over to Coroner. Deputies will then leave the scene. This is a Coroner's case. If further Investigation is requested by the Coroner, the request must be made to the Prosecutor and referred to the Sheriff's Office. On any Suspicious Death Scene where victim is determined to be alive, and transported by EMS, this is a crime scene and will be the Brown County Sheriff's Office scene. The Coroner has no jurisdiction there unless the body of the deceased is there.

At no time will a Deputy gather evidence, take photos, or do anything to process or disturb the scene at a Coroner's Case. No Deputy will take or receive evidence from any member of the Coroner's Office, nor take an order to do so unless the order is from the Sheriff or Chief Deputy. This is the responsibility of the Coroner's Office Personnel.

All notifications to family or next of kin regarding a Death will be handled by the Coroner's Office. Injury notifications will be handled the same as usual.
Bud

Cincinnati, OH

#12 Jul 23, 2014
All fault of the Coroner wrote:
Brown County Sheriff's Office Policy on Deaths
Section 7.01 Policy and Procedure Revision
Natural Causes i.e.; Under Doctor's Care or Hospice
Deputies will not respond, this is a Coroner's Case.
Accidental Deaths Any unnatural death due to accidental means
Deputies will respond and render first aid if applicable. When EMS or Coroner advises victim is deceased scene will be held by Deputy, and turned over to Coroner, this is a Coroner's Case. Deputies will then leave the scene. At no time will a Deputy gather evidence, take photos, or do anything to process or disturb the scene if the victim is deceased. If the victim is alive and transported by EMS, follow the usual procedure at a scene.
Suspicious Death Any unexplained Death i.e.; Suicide, Homicide, etc.
Deputies will clear building and/or immediate area for other victims, make the scene safe, disturbing nothing. Render First Aid if applicable, and have EMS check victim. If victim declared deceased, scene will be secured and turned over to Coroner. Deputies will then leave the scene. This is a Coroner's case. If further Investigation is requested by the Coroner, the request must be made to the Prosecutor and referred to the Sheriff's Office. On any Suspicious Death Scene where victim is determined to be alive, and transported by EMS, this is a crime scene and will be the Brown County Sheriff's Office scene. The Coroner has no jurisdiction there unless the body of the deceased is there.
At no time will a Deputy gather evidence, take photos, or do anything to process or disturb the scene at a Coroner's Case. No Deputy will take or receive evidence from any member of the Coroner's Office, nor take an order to do so unless the order is from the Sheriff or Chief Deputy. This is the responsibility of the Coroner's Office Personnel.
All notifications to family or next of kin regarding a Death will be handled by the Coroner's Office. Injury notifications will be handled the same as usual.
The problem arises when the SO's policy, which is ever changing, is in opposition to Ohio law. We all know Schadle says the law doesn't work in Brown County and so they choose to ignore it but I think that may be a problem to others. The coroner does her job. If others did the same there would be fewer problems.
car007

West Chester, OH

#13 Jul 23, 2014
Gus wrote:
Steve Adamson and Tracy Hawkins both need to be sued for filing a frivolous law suit.
They should have sued the BCSO for not doing their job.
Steve Adamson said he does not want to take sides, so why is the law suit not against the BCSO?
Steve Adamson is not going to get rid of the guilt he has for not helping his son buy suing anyone. It is a terrible thing to live with, but that was his choice. So suck it up Steve, you have a long time to think on it.
Gus, I do NOT know who you are or where you get your thoughts from. I do NOT agree with how this is being handled by Steve but I agree much LESS with your comment of him bearing any guilt for not helping his son. If all of the fathers in this country had just half the love steve has for his kids and family, this world would be a better place. I think you are out of line with that remark Gus and I know of NO basis for it.

If you feel it necessary to attack him for suing the Coroner, so be it, but to post what you did about him not helping his son is simply false and in very poor taste ! Its false and totally unnecessary Gus !
car007

West Chester, OH

#14 Jul 23, 2014
Bud wrote:
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The problem arises when the SO's policy, which is ever changing, is in opposition to Ohio law. We all know Schadle says the law doesn't work in Brown County and so they choose to ignore it but I think that may be a problem to others. The coroner does her job. If others did the same there would be fewer problems.
Curious,,,,, are EMS Personnel authorized to pronounce a death in Ohio ?
Bud

Cincinnati, OH

#15 Jul 23, 2014
car007 wrote:
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Curious,,,,, are EMS Personnel authorized to pronounce a death in Ohio ?
It's my understanding they cannot but they can relay the information to a certified doctor who can pronounce the death based on that information alone and without seeing the body.
Gus

Dayton, OH

#16 Jul 23, 2014
car007 wrote:
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Gus, I do NOT know who you are or where you get your thoughts from. I do NOT agree with how this is being handled by Steve but I agree much LESS with your comment of him bearing any guilt for not helping his son. If all of the fathers in this country had just half the love steve has for his kids and family, this world would be a better place. I think you are out of line with that remark Gus and I know of NO basis for it.
If you feel it necessary to attack him for suing the Coroner, so be it, but to post what you did about him not helping his son is simply false and in very poor taste ! Its false and totally unnecessary Gus !
You do not know him as well as you think you do. I stand by what I posted.
car007

West Chester, OH

#17 Jul 24, 2014
Gus wrote:
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You do not know him as well as you think you do. I stand by what I posted.
Gus,

I have known Steve since Zach was born and will say this; Steve has a " Heart of Gold " and I feel terrible for what he has had to go through and continues. I also feel he has been mislead by his attorney friend and others. Sure, its easy to say, he is a big boy and is cognizant of what decisions he makes.

To suggest he didn't provide whatever assistance you feel he should have for his son, its complete CRAP in my opinion. If every father in Brown County loved their kids half as much as Steve does, it would be a much better place !

Zach, whom I miss as much as his family, was an adult who made decisions for himself, just as Zach and or any adult would want to. Pointing the finger of blame elsewhere under the circumstances makes me believe there is some motivating factor you have. I am not sure where your coming from but common sense leads me to believe, you have some other motivating factor far beyond what " reality " is or was.

Might you be related or have some association with others who used Zach's friendship ? Might you be feeling guilty and redirecting your own self guilt ? Might you be concerned, other facts might be divulged which could implicate someone close to you ?

Gus, NO doubt, you have some motivating factors for your comment, I just don't know what they are but could take a guess. Not the time or place though ! At least not right now.

NO parent has control over their adult kids so I find your comment without any credibility at this time.

Steve loves Zach as Steve Loves his family and to suggest he didn't help his son is insane.

I do NOT agree with the attack on the Coroner in the fashion it has been. I do NOT agree with the BCSO NOT being a companion case or separate case either. Steve is being lead by others and for whatever reason, that's his business.

Closing, Steve was and is a great person and a great father ! YOU do NOT really know him.
Gus

Dayton, OH

#18 Jul 24, 2014
car007, I repeat: You do not know him as well as you think you do. I stand by what I posted.
Terry

Dayton, OH

#19 Jul 24, 2014
The BCSO has not heard of "bag it and tag it". They just move it and leave.
Bud

Cincinnati, OH

#20 Jul 24, 2014
According to the article in the News Democrat it sounds like the special prosecutor is blaming the coroner for this going to the grand jury. I give her credt not blame. Where do they get these people? He was an asst prosecutor under Don White in Clermont County and one of Joe Deters's cronies. He's the one that managed the deal that let Amy Baker walk away free from the Marcus Fiesel case. Great.

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