Two charged in remediation scam

Two charged in remediation scam

There are 117 comments on the NewsTimes.com story from Feb 11, 2009, titled Two charged in remediation scam. In it, NewsTimes.com reports that:

The head of a Bethel environmental firm and a Norwalk laboratory owner have been charged with scamming three Fairfield County homeowners out of thousands of dollars for unnecessary work associated with the ...

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paul leone

United States

#98 Feb 14, 2009
westporter wrote:
grow up Paul and look at the whole picture
the call 1 800 oiltank and get the skinny on what else they have done
All that I can tell you, Envirotech spent from 6/19/03 to 8/7/03 excavating a hole 19 feet wide, 75 feet long and 10 feet deep (80% of my northside driveway removed) and Passaro got Nationwide insurance to pay Envirotech $125,000 for the adjacent oil tank removal and soil clean up "remediation job!!!
Basspig

Southington, CT

#99 Feb 14, 2009
I always suspected these oil tank removal businesses were all scams, aided & abetted by whacky environmentalist laws.
I know someone who's son was in the business for 20 years. He's pulled about a thousand tanks in that time. Only one was actually found to leak and that was due to improper installation which became apparent at the removal.
What hypocracy it is, when the enviros bamboozle people into thinking a small leak is going to contaminate the soil, when the towns dump thousands of gallons of oil on the roads every year during repaving! That oil runs off into the ground water supply. Worried about a small sepage from an underground oil tank? I'd be more concerned about the thousands of gallons being dumped onto our roads every summer.
BTW, oil is a natural rust inhibitor. It's not uncommon for oil tanks to last 100 years or more, as long as you top them off with oil immediately after installation.
paul leone

United States

#102 Feb 15, 2009
Basspig wrote:
I always suspected these oil tank removal businesses were all scams, aided & abetted by whacky environmentalist laws.
I know someone who's son was in the business for 20 years. He's pulled about a thousand tanks in that time. Only one was actually found to leak and that was due to improper installation which became apparent at the removal.
What hypocracy it is, when the enviros bamboozle people into thinking a small leak is going to contaminate the soil, when the towns dump thousands of gallons of oil on the roads every year during repaving! That oil runs off into the ground water supply. Worried about a small sepage from an underground oil tank? I'd be more concerned about the thousands of gallons being dumped onto our roads every summer.
BTW, oil is a natural rust inhibitor. It's not uncommon for oil tanks to last 100 years or more, as long as you top them off with oil immediately after installation.
How about all the tetra ethyl lead that the gasoline companies put into gasoline to prevent premature ignition??? Tetra ethyl had been added to regular and all gasoline from 1920 to 1975, 50 + YEAR DURATION and the burnt lead out of everyone's exhaust pipe landed as a fine dust/powder on all U.S. highway/road surfaces, only to be washed off by rainwater into your PUBLIC WATER SUPPLY.!! Ever wonder why so few Americans can put 100 years under their belts???
tank puller

AOL

#103 Feb 15, 2009
Basspig wrote:
I always suspected these oil tank removal businesses were all scams, aided & abetted by whacky environmentalist laws.
I know someone who's son was in the business for 20 years. He's pulled about a thousand tanks in that time. Only one was actually found to leak and that was due to improper installation which became apparent at the removal.
What hypocracy it is, when the enviros bamboozle people into thinking a small leak is going to contaminate the soil, when the towns dump thousands of gallons of oil on the roads every year during repaving! That oil runs off into the ground water supply. Worried about a small sepage from an underground oil tank? I'd be more concerned about the thousands of gallons being dumped onto our roads every summer.
BTW, oil is a natural rust inhibitor. It's not uncommon for oil tanks to last 100 years or more, as long as you top them off with oil immediately after installation.

I am in the tank pulling business as well and first let me say I do agree with you on the dumping of oil on the roads but as far as tanks not leaking you are wrong. It is true that tanks can last a long time if they were made with good quality metal and are located in dry soil. The tanbks made after the second world war are extremely strong and rarely leak because they used high quality steel. But the 275 Gal tanks that were never meant to be put into the ground and the tanks made in the late 70's and the 80's often are found with many holes in the bottom of them especially when they are located in wet soil conditions. I personally have seen tanks with holes as big as fifty cent pieces or larger. If you doubt my opinion then feel free to contact any fire marshall from a town thta requires them to be onsite when tanks are removed. Not all towns require this but many do. You must also remember that it is the state that set up the regulations that control this industry not the companies that work in it.
tank puller

AOL

#104 Feb 15, 2009
First let me apologize for my spelling mistakes, I was in a rush because I was preparing for my childs birthday party. Let me add that there are also other factors that can contribute to the decay of an underground storage tank such as the mineral content in the soil. If there is a lot of rocks in the soil then the minerals within the rocks can interact with the minerals in the steel and increase the rate of decay of the metal that the tank is constructed from.
truthbeknown

Exeter, NH

#105 Feb 15, 2009
paul leone wrote:
<quoted text> Top down the entire U.S. JUDICIAL SYSTEM IS SKANK RIDDEN!!! EVER GO TO COURT?? TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THE EXAMPLE SETTING JOKES ON THE SUPREME COURT!!!
Mr. Leone, it is you who are the joke. Are you that jaded that you have no clue that everyone on this post site looks at you like a little boy who has not gotten his own way? Take a look at yourself sir (and yes, I use Sir loosley here...) I doubt that you are as perfect as you are trying to make yourself out to be. If you where, you would already have had your day in court with a decision that you are happy with. Learn to deal with it, As it stands in the eye of the law, Envirotech has not wronged you. So sorry, time to move on and find your next target for an insane lawsuit. Windbag!

Since: Feb 09

Venice, FL

#106 Feb 15, 2009
Environmentalism is what gives people like this the advantage. If it weren't for hysterical institutional environmentalism, the perps would be selling used cars or real estate. The fear of the enviro-police, or ignorance of reality, puts these victims in the cross hairs. Oil comes from the earth, and will break down and return to the earth. No one will die!! If you don't know this, the government will send someone to help you-(promise).
Tank puller but no expert

Matawan, NJ

#107 Feb 15, 2009
You didn't mention holes are from lack of strike plates as well old timer.

Most inground tanks are 2,000 gallons I never saw a 275 in the ground.Pump it,dry ice it,and poke a big hole in it with the back hoe into the dump trailor and forget about it.Green houses with big nozzels took the oil.

Oil was used for years to keep dust down in the cranberry bogs where tank pulling became a business.

Then for years we trucked dirty dirt to Sawyers and paid by the ton in Maine they in return made hardtop and sold it back to us.

Lets be real after 30 years with Jetline then Harbours these two bastards got caught in the ultimate scam.

You local fire depts in Ct have their heads up their arse and in most parts of the country your Ct DEP with Marc Dicaprio heading the department has a failure around each corner.

Expert I'm not but I do have a kids in a school Brooks cleared for radon that now has tested positive even after they were hired to make it right a year ago.

You legal,you oil company experts are off your mark if you think trusting anyone for help is a cure all.

I'm from the old school anyone remember Bobby Dee he played for the Patriots?

If you do then you know I have 30 years in I drove one of his first trucks picking oil up and dropping it off at night.

Only if you live in the house where the tank is coming out you usually don't give a crap about whats in the hole.
Tank puller but no expert

Matawan, NJ

#108 Feb 15, 2009
What I meant by bastards are Brooks and Envirotech
I have of course worked for Allen for years,Bob before he died of a heart attack for harbours and what was Jet line,then Basil inc of DC.

Lets be real after 30 years with Jetline then Harbours these two bastards got caught in the ultimate scam.
Lurker

Oxford, CT

#110 Feb 16, 2009
watcher419 wrote:
<quoted text>
Apologies. I bow to your superior intellect and agree: ALL business owners are liars, cheats, and thieves. I guess you should stay home and never buy ANY products or services. That way you will know you're not being cheated. You'll starve to death in the cold and dark, but you'll show those evil businesses a thing or two.
gladly, i can live off the land

CAN YOU ???
Tank Puller

Topsham, ME

#111 Feb 16, 2009
Tank puller but no expert wrote:
You didn't mention holes are from lack of strike plates as well old timer.
Most inground tanks are 2,000 gallons I never saw a 275 in the ground.Pump it,dry ice it,and poke a big hole in it with the back hoe into the dump trailor and forget about it.Green houses with big nozzels took the oil.
Oil was used for years to keep dust down in the cranberry bogs where tank pulling became a business.
Then for years we trucked dirty dirt to Sawyers and paid by the ton in Maine they in return made hardtop and sold it back to us.
Lets be real after 30 years with Jetline then Harbours these two bastards got caught in the ultimate scam.
You local fire depts in Ct have their heads up their arse and in most parts of the country your Ct DEP with Marc Dicaprio heading the department has a failure around each corner.
Expert I'm not but I do have a kids in a school Brooks cleared for radon that now has tested positive even after they were hired to make it right a year ago.
You legal,you oil company experts are off your mark if you think trusting anyone for help is a cure all.
I'm from the old school anyone remember Bobby Dee he played for the Patriots?
If you do then you know I have 30 years in I drove one of his first trucks picking oil up and dropping it off at night.
Only if you live in the house where the tank is coming out you usually don't give a **** about whats in the hole.
If the tanks you were pulling were mostly 2,000 gal. then you must have been dealing with either commercial buildings or gas stations. In residential work you see mostly 275 gal for small homes, 550 gal for average sized homes and 1,000 gal. tanks for larger homes. Very rarely do you see a 2,000 gal tank in the residential field. And you can ask anyone you want, when you are pulling a 275 gal tank it is more likely to be leaking than not.
Commie Parents

Exeter, NH

#112 Feb 16, 2009
sickofthem wrote:
<quoted text>
That's good, your jobs should be scrutinized also.
This whole industry is a construct devised by big government. Scammers like Passaro got into it simply because the government set up the so-called "Superfund" pool of cash for them to extract after they sank much of the insurance companies in the 1980s with asbestos claims.
Oil comes from the ground naturally, but if it seeps into the ground, it is a major environmental accident good for tens of thousands, sometimes hundreds of thousands of dollars. Of course, the taxpayers are called upon to pony up, while because the government is involved the cost of the toilet seat is inflated to $400. I guess that wasn't enough for Passaro.
Bruce Czech

Big Piney, WY

#113 Feb 16, 2009
I have known Ron Passaro for 30 years. He has been a hard working guy that is trying to live the American dream. He should be given his due process. It is not easy being a small business man in Connecticut. He has provided a valuable service. Nobody forced these people to use Ron's company.
Due Diligence

Hamden, CT

#114 Feb 16, 2009
I don't know anything about Envirotech, but it would not suprise me if they are guilty of scamming a couple of wealthy homeowners in Fairfield County. I have had my share of experience with oil tank removal companies like Envirotech who are always looking for the big "leaker". That is how they make their money.

If you are going to remove you home heating oil UST you need to do your research prior to starting the project so you don't get ripped off by the Envirotech's out there. The DEP has a fact sheet on their website regarding residential fuel oil tank releases. Call around and get several cost estimates and proposals detailing what is involved and what happens if the tank did leak and there is contaminated soil. Pulling a tank is easy and should take no more than 4 hours including backfilling and restoring the yard.

sjm

Waterbury, CT

#115 Feb 17, 2009
I never believed Ron's sales pitch, looking like a redneck, boots with higher heels on it (napoleon personality)shortie, with that long thin redish struncy beard, makes you feel like working with a safe person.(not a scamer)makes you feel a look of hometown/honest person over used carsalesman is gone-they are all out there RON. Sorry had to end this way, you went to hurt my parents finan-cially -thankgoodness an intellengent person was there to stop your short a**.
sjm

Waterbury, CT

#116 Feb 17, 2009
I think the govt should talk to old employees and see if they will talk, I know of 1 employee who asked un-employment if they filed for unemploy-ment could they be compensated. unemployment said only if they confess on what Ron is doing. they just quit - hello CLUE
Chump

Garnerville, NY

#117 Feb 17, 2009
William Petrault is one lousy attorney - that Zubarev idiot is going to jail for sure (Where he belongs).
westporter

Matawan, NJ

#118 Feb 18, 2009
Norwalk just announced the work Brooks did will be checked,only trouble is the city has no idea how many projects they worked on so the city decided to do just one a $10,000 dollar report.Too little too late mayor Moccia.
Rowayton summer resident

Matawan, NJ

#120 Feb 19, 2009
Brooks and Mayor Moccia from Norwalk have had a very good relationship during his last 4 years in office,now the city has agreed to look into one report yet many bear Brooks and Moccia's John Hancock so maybe we will see some accountability even if it is one report at a a time.Maybe the mayor will just admit he hasn't been diligent in most endeavors after all.
bethelcheerox

AOL

#121 Feb 20, 2009
What is your point? Why are you harping on my family?

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