ACLU: Marriage checklist unfairly targets illegal immigrants

[Jedi Squirrel]

leslie wrote:

Here ya go.
Maybe this will help folks decide if it is good or not.
http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2005/11/10/top-ten...

Just an FYI.

When I tapped your link my anti-virus program SpyWare doctor alerted me to a possible virus on that site that tries to upload into your computer.

It identified it as "Trojan.TDSSlsd6". Whatever that means!

It may or may not be harmless, but who knows now days.

[georgeply77]

Jedi Squirrel wrote:

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Just an FYI.
When I tapped your link my anti-virus program SpyWare doctor alerted me to a possible virus on that site that tries to upload into your computer.
It identified it as "Trojan.TDSSlsd6". Whatever that means!
It may or may not be harmless, but who knows now days.

The trojen viruses are the worst ones. Rating highest on the virus and security systoms of you're computer. Dont open it. scan, isolated and delete it.
FYI.

[Fabioso]

Bonnie wrote:

<quoted text>For me this is not about the A.C.L.U. now... Everyone all ready knows what a f@cked up deal they are..It's about a boob that calls himself Fabioso..Didn't you every see some fool, and ya just had to knock his hat off. Just to see what he would do. Well Hello fool. Chr!st at least change your name chump!

No kidding. You aren't interested in the truth and you damn sure can't hold your own in a debate about the real issues.

And so we get this. Expressions of your intellectual insecurity - as if it wasn't obvious already.

Same to you. Feel free to ignore my posts. If you manage to post something subtantive and on-topic, you might get a decent response.

"everybody knows" - LOL

I'm willing to bet what you "know" can easily proven to be total bullshit.

[PSL]

Illegal immigrants? Unfairly?
WTH are they talking about?
Lets just be fair and DEPORT!

[Fabioso]

PSL wrote:

Illegal immigrants? Unfairly?
WTH are they talking about?
Lets just be fair and DEPORT!

All illegal immigrants should be deported.

That doesn't mean the government should be allowed to break its own rules in so doing.

[dispsh1t]

Fabioso wrote:

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So your judgment has nothing to do with the content of the site?
Who funds stoptheaclu?
I'm making my determination on the content. Why are you afraid to? Might find out you're wrong?
The website I linked presents BOTH sides of the argument. 1 minute of looking at it establishes this.
Whereas stoptheaclu is quite obviously a political site not interested at all in presenting both sides. It's hardly even about the ACLU. Here's a list of their "stories" from their front page today:
Shocker! Another Tax Cheating Obama Nominee…zzzzzzz
As Obama prints billions of greenbacks, the smarties are moving into Swiss francs
Playing Political Games With our Healthcare
AP Slips Bush Derangement Syndrome Into Farrow Death Notice?
When We Voted for Unions to Run State Gov’t…
The Imperialism Of The Babs
Obama’s 3am Call To Hawaii
The Origins Of Life Bristle With Puzzle And Paradox
Rowan Williams’ Fresh Expressions of Moonbattery
Michelle Bachmann Gets A Little Crazy Over Census
PETA Takes Obama To Task For Killing A Fly, Sort Of
Did Obama Admin. Try to Take Credit for Twitter’s Iran Coverage?
Rationing WILL Come
Etc, ad nauseam. I didn't list them all
Name That Party: Dem Scandal, No Party Mention/GOP Scandal, Party Mentioned at Top
Will the Real Republican Please Stand Up?
That's EVERY story listed on their front page. EVERY one of them is a right-wing political opinion piece, NONE of them have ANYTHING to do with civil rights or the ACLU.
QED

but why do you change the subject? I didnt ask who funds stopaclu, you did. i ask simply who funds that org.

[Chrgrfan]

Jedi Squirrel wrote:

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Just an FYI.
When I tapped your link my anti-virus program SpyWare doctor alerted me to a possible virus on that site that tries to upload into your computer.
It identified it as "Trojan.TDSSlsd6". Whatever that means!
It may or may not be harmless, but who knows now days.

I clicked on it to. My virus protection alerted me also.
To bad looks as though "someone" would prefer us not to know the truth regarding the ACLU.

[Chrgrfan]

Fabioso wrote:

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No kidding. You aren't interested in the truth and you damn sure can't hold your own in a debate about the real issues.
And so we get this. Expressions of your intellectual insecurity - as if it wasn't obvious already.
Same to you. Feel free to ignore my posts. If you manage to post something subtantive and on-topic, you might get a decent response.
"everybody knows" - LOL
I'm willing to bet what you "know" can easily proven to be total bullshit.

Yes, Bonnie aren't you aware we are all inferior to Fabioso? LOL! Hilarious!

[an american]

Fabioso wrote:

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No kidding. You aren't interested in the truth and you damn sure can't hold your own in a debate about the real issues.
And so we get this. Expressions of your intellectual insecurity - as if it wasn't obvious already.
Same to you. Feel free to ignore my posts. If you manage to post something subtantive and on-topic, you might get a decent response.
"everybody knows" - LOL
I'm willing to bet what you "know" can easily proven to be total bullshit.

Ok Fabino what are the "real issues"

[Fabioso]

dispsh1t wrote:

<quoted text>but why do you change the subject? I didnt ask who funds stopaclu, you did. i ask simply who funds that org.

Then I guess I misunderstood you, so I apologize.

Probably because I am sick of people citing to stoptheaclu as if it is some kind of objective or reliable source.

I have no idea who funds the other site. I just found them to be a bit more objective based on the content.

[Fabioso]

Chrgrfan wrote:

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I clicked on it to. My virus protection alerted me also.
To bad looks as though "someone" would prefer us not to know the truth regarding the ACLU.

Mister, you are not going to find out the truth about the ACLU on that site, period.

It is extremely partisan and takes great liberties with the truth.

That doesn't mean you have to get your info from aclu.org either, but if you really are intellectually honest you shoud recognize stoptheaclu for the propaganda outlet that it most obviously is.

There are objective sources. Why not use those?

(never mind, I know why)

[Fabioso]

Chrgrfan wrote:

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Yes, Bonnie aren't you aware we are all inferior to Fabioso? LOL! Hilarious!

No, just the dumbasses that don't have any clue what they are talking about, and when exposed as such, turn to flaming.

Bonnie is a bimbo with nothing interesting to say about the topic.

What are you?

[Fabioso]

an american wrote:

<quoted text>Ok Fabino what are the "real issues"

IMHO, the vast amount of misinformation and outright lies told about the ACLU, civil rights, and the law in general.

I have NO problem with legitimate criticism of the ACLU. Problem is, 99% of what I see on the Internet isn't legitimate criticism because it is based on falsehood.

Example: the ACLU doesn't do enough about the Second Amendment. This is a legitimate criticism.

the ACLU wastes time and money on trivial matters. I believe this sometimes myself, it is a legitimate criticism.

The ACLU is anti-Christian. This is just plain bullshit. I can prove it false with a single link. Yet how many conservatives believe this, based on what they read on an obviously dishonest and slanted website? They believe what they want.

The ACLU is communist. This one is so ironic it is actually hilarious. Fighting AGAINST the government's power over the individual is communist? Hello? People who say things like this haven't given ANY thought to what comes out of their mouth. They are just ignorant parrots.

[PSL]

Fabioso wrote:

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All illegal immigrants should be deported.
That doesn't mean the government should be allowed to break its own rules in so doing.

The government breaks it's own rules every day for years when allowing illegals to stay. So..........
what's your point?

[Fabioso]

PSL wrote:

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The government breaks it's own rules every day for years when allowing illegals to stay. So..........
what's your point?

That's true and it is a real problem. And we can talk about why, if you like.

But them doing that isn't necessarily a civil rights issue.

It's always important to make sure those that have power over us and are supposed to be serving us obey ALL the rules. Erosion of our rights doesn't start in cases with popular defendants that belong to the majority culture/religion/race whatever...it doesn't happen with defendants that get sympathy from the juries and mercy from the judge.

It happens in cases where the defendant is unpopular. Just as it was important to defend the rights of Nazis to march, even though they are offensive in the extreme, it is important to have oversight in immigration matters that have civil rights implications for us all - not just those pesky illegals.