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Outsider

Wardell, MO

#1 Nov 18, 2009
I find it very interesting that Bernie is the only town where there are forums bashing their school, administration, school board members, faculty, etc. I have looked at topix in most of the surrounding towns and have yet to find so much "school" bashing going on in neighboring towns. Do you not realize how this makes your town look to the people in the surrounding areas? Who, in their right mind, would want to apply for positions in your school district? Who would want to be the volleyball coach when the parents are on here saying "We are going to TELL them what we want!"? You all sound like a bunch of spoiled rotten kids who throw tantrums when you don't get your way or things don't go like you think they should. If I worked there I don't think I would let the door hit my behind on the way out running to find another school system where there is RESPECT for the administrators, school board members, faculty and staff from the townspeople. Good luck trying to find a coach, or anyone to fill your vacant positions because you are certainly going to need it unless the community stops their crybaby ways.
parent

Bernie, MO

#2 Nov 18, 2009
Other schools don't have the problems Bernie has because they have better people making decisions at the top of the food chain. What choice do we have when our beliefs are not represented? You don't live too far away Outsider. Good luck. Are you going to run for election again?
parent

Wardell, MO

#3 Nov 18, 2009
Outsider wrote:
I find it very interesting that Bernie is the only town where there are forums bashing their school, administration, school board members, faculty, etc. I have looked at topix in most of the surrounding towns and have yet to find so much "school" bashing going on in neighboring towns. Do you not realize how this makes your town look to the people in the surrounding areas? Who, in their right mind, would want to apply for positions in your school district? Who would want to be the volleyball coach when the parents are on here saying "We are going to TELL them what we want!"? You all sound like a bunch of spoiled rotten kids who throw tantrums when you don't get your way or things don't go like you think they should. If I worked there I don't think I would let the door hit my behind on the way out running to find another school system where there is RESPECT for the administrators, school board members, faculty and staff from the townspeople. Good luck trying to find a coach, or anyone to fill your vacant positions because you are certainly going to need it unless the community stops their crybaby ways.
Amen
Leaving

Bernie, MO

#4 Nov 18, 2009
Well outsider most teachers are in it for the students. I would hope the letter my daughter wrote a coach at another school will help. I wouldn't blame coaches if they didn't want to come and work for a school board that tells them they have to teach all day if they can even find an opening while all the basketball coaches sit on the stage and watch the PE students play basketball every class period every day. My daughter gets so sick of dribbling a basketball in PE class.
citizen also

Parma, MO

#5 Nov 18, 2009
Leaving wrote:
Well outsider most teachers are in it for the students. I would hope the letter my daughter wrote a coach at another school will help. I wouldn't blame coaches if they didn't want to come and work for a school board that tells them they have to teach all day if they can even find an opening while all the basketball coaches sit on the stage and watch the PE students play basketball every class period every day. My daughter gets so sick of dribbling a basketball in PE class.
I thought you said you were leaving.
PARENT

Bernie, MO

#6 Nov 18, 2009
The reason the parents are throwing a fit is because they have no faith in the school board anymore. Some of the board members have proven they won't hire a coach in the past. If the school board wants some respect they have to do something to get it. What have they done lately? Only one school board member I talked with said he would try to find a coach. The people are upset because of a decade of poor decisions by the board. It translates down from one family to the next. Neighbors that have children that have played tell their neighbors who currently have children on the team what happen when their child was in school. Parents with multiple children know what happen when their first child was in school. The school board has proven unless the parents make themselves heard a good coach will not even be interviewed led alone hired.
My opinon

Bernie, MO

#7 Nov 18, 2009
If you would THINK back there was one person who
started ALL of this mess. I don't think you would
have to think about it very long before you could
remember who it was. It wasn't R.R.
taxpayer

Bernie, MO

#8 Nov 18, 2009
Who was it? Does anyone have a clue?
Wrong

Stratford, CT

#9 Nov 18, 2009
She is gone now and now nobody can figure out how to fix all the problems she created. What now?
Student

Stratford, CT

#10 Nov 18, 2009
She is the one that got the vb program in the shape it is in when she fired the real hot slim chick. That chick was sexy and Miss Richee was jealous of her because she wasn't that hot.
hahaha

Advance, MO

#11 Nov 19, 2009
Leaving wrote:
Well outsider most teachers are in it for the students. I would hope the letter my daughter wrote a coach at another school will help. I wouldn't blame coaches if they didn't want to come and work for a school board that tells them they have to teach all day if they can even find an opening while all the basketball coaches sit on the stage and watch the PE students play basketball every class period every day. My daughter gets so sick of dribbling a basketball in PE class.
That is your LAZY AD. The Golden Child of Bernie. Coach Karnes never had to have the help he did !!! Only when Botsch in did he HAVE to HAVE HELP so Robin created a JOB for LONG. Looks like both are really struggling. Botsch will find some excuse why he NEEDS to set around all day. At least he is not EMAILING all day like he got caught at anymore. OR IS HE???? Shows you how hard he is working huh?
what do you want

Dexter, MO

#12 Nov 19, 2009
Student wrote:
She is the one that got the vb program in the shape it is in when she fired the real hot slim chick. That chick was sexy and Miss Richee was jealous of her because she wasn't that hot.
In the shape it's in now?? Is Bernie like Campbell, Oran, Woodland, Richland and dozens and dozens of other school's who win 3 or 4 games a year? Did I miss something? I'm going to do some research on the school's record compared to other schools around for the last 5 or 6 years. You people are unbelieveable!
hahaha

Advance, MO

#13 Nov 19, 2009
hahaha wrote:
<quoted text>That is your LAZY AD. The Golden Child of Bernie. Coach Karnes never had to have the help he did !!! Only when Botsch in did he HAVE to HAVE HELP so Robin created a JOB for LONG. Looks like both are really struggling. Botsch will find some excuse why he NEEDS to set around all day. At least he is not EMAILING all day like he got caught at anymore. OR IS HE???? Shows you how hard he is working huh?
Yes, Robin found hundreds of emails sent from his computer so that shows he did noting but email all day long. The board knew it and still knows it and YET he kept his job! Yet he wanted the VB coaches fired.. If he has all that time and don't teach what the hell is he doing????
itsashame

Boise, ID

#14 Nov 19, 2009
what do you want wrote:
<quoted text>
In the shape it's in now?? Is Bernie like Campbell, Oran, Woodland, Richland and dozens and dozens of other school's who win 3 or 4 games a year? Did I miss something? I'm going to do some research on the school's record compared to other schools around for the last 5 or 6 years. You people are unbelieveable!
Please...you go back your 5 or 6 years. We went undefeated. And had we had some real guidance a year later we would be on that wall. But no..assis. coach just couldnt take it. She didnt want our "volunteer" coach to get the credit, she wanted it all for herself. Truth is she was so jealous of the young lady that she couldnt see straight. We all seen it. Who could miss it really. All the eye rolling and bad looks. She tried to make everyone go against us having the amazing "volunteer" that she was, who sacrificed her time to help us, and didnt ask for a paycheck she did it because she wanted to because she enjoyed it. Bernie's vb program needs someone like her. But good luck finding it. Too bad Zoll won't take the job. After all he has started coming to the games. He's a legend. But the girls wouldnt survive a day in practice with him. We wouldn't have either. We never had a "coach" we coached ourselves. all we had was a placeholder.
wondering

Campbell, MO

#15 Nov 19, 2009
what do you want wrote:
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In the shape it's in now?? Is Bernie like Campbell, Oran, Woodland, Richland and dozens and dozens of other school's who win 3 or 4 games a year? Did I miss something? I'm going to do some research on the school's record compared to other schools around for the last 5 or 6 years. You people are unbelieveable!
He has talented players. It certainly isn't good coaching especially since they have the little short fat man running the players in and out in and out and to think he does this all for no pay. What man in his right mind would attend all practices, all games, and do all the dirty work if there wasn't a motive. Could it be he has a son who plays on the team or is he trying for AD's job.
tired of the mess

Campbell, MO

#16 Nov 19, 2009
hahaha wrote:
<quoted text> Yes, Robin found hundreds of emails sent from his computer so that shows he did noting but email all day long. The board knew it and still knows it and YET he kept his job! Yet he wanted the VB coaches fired.. If he has all that time and don't teach what the hell is he doing????
And he was banned from talking or having anything to do with the gentleman he was sending the e-mails to. Oh, it created quite a mess at our school. Could have ended up in the biggest law suit Bernie or any neighboring school has EVER had around here. AD really lucked out on that one. AD stayed in trouble for a couple of years there. He had the famous RR taking up for him and covering up a lot of the mess he created. Lets face it Rodgers your name is just not quite as famous as the AD's name is Oh, this school board well remembers all the trouble. Funny though that the AD had the courage to reccomend firing Rodgers when what he did was much more dramatical and certainly caused turmoil not only with the BB program but the entire school and community. Oh, well what goes around comes around. Maybe one day we will have a board that will do what is right in EVERY circumstance. I say that if the board thinks Rodgers should go then how can they face the community knowing what they allowed the AD to do and get by with it. Bernie school board get with the program or get out of the position.
Bernie citizen

Bernie, MO

#17 Nov 20, 2009
itsashame wrote:
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Please...you go back your 5 or 6 years. We went undefeated. And had we had some real guidance a year later we would be on that wall. But no..assis. coach just couldnt take it. She didnt want our "volunteer" coach to get the credit, she wanted it all for herself. Truth is she was so jealous of the young lady that she couldnt see straight. We all seen it. Who could miss it really. All the eye rolling and bad looks. She tried to make everyone go against us having the amazing "volunteer" that she was, who sacrificed her time to help us, and didnt ask for a paycheck she did it because she wanted to because she enjoyed it. Bernie's vb program needs someone like her. But good luck finding it. Too bad Zoll won't take the job. After all he has started coming to the games. He's a legend. But the girls wouldnt survive a day in practice with him. We wouldn't have either. We never had a "coach" we coached ourselves. all we had was a placeholder.
I don't know which player you are. But I am so sorry. The school board, the AD, and the administration never did anything to help you get a picture on the wall. The coaches never took responsibility for anything. The teachers and the coaches broadcast to the entire school they were glad your class was graduating. Why were they glad? The reason they were glad is because your class was smart enough to realize when the teachers and coaches were wrong. Your class was not afraid to broadcast this information to the town. Zoll is not coming back. He retired. I'm trying to get the school board to hire a coach for the current players. I'm also trying to convince the school board to hire teachers that get our students ready for college. But there is so much division in this town right now I'm unsure if anything good can happen. The new administrators have some good ideas. But how can they change a school that doesn't want change? Does anyone think what we have been doing is working? Every time the new administrators suggest changes the school board or the teachers try to block the changes. We have some really good teachers at the school. Pam Foster, Kristy Barnes, David Teeters, and a handful of others want what is best for the students. Some people like to blame the parents. But how often do the parents complain about these teachers? If you hire good teachers and coaches the parents will stop complaining.

I don't know that much about sports. Volleyball is boring to most people in town. The fact that most of the leaders in this town are males doesnít help. Most men donít like volleyball. I couldnít make my husband attend a volleyball game even if I promised to bake him a pie. But volleyball means so much to the students. And I know the volunteer coach you are talking about cared more about you all than any AD, teacher, or coach that ever worked at the school. She spoke of you all often when I talked to her in church. Your coaches cared about you to. While your coaches would never admit it, I think they probably really enjoyed coaching you. Maybe that's why they tried so hard to make sure they wouldn't be replaced by a volunteer assistant coach. The Bible about selfishness. Until people in this town stop being selfish the students will continue to suffer. I think judgment day awaits your former administrators. They are the ones that are ultimately responsible for all of this. I hope the students get the best teachers and coaches we can hire with the money we can come up with. Maybe our school is not rich. But how have we got by for so many years? Things were so much better when our children were in school. We didnít always have the most money. But we did the best with what we had. And we gave her a better future than what we had. I hope the school can find a way to let the students be high school students now and prepare them for college at the same time.
parent

Washington, IN

#18 Nov 20, 2009
If the school board lets him, I think Mr. Boyd will try to make this work out the best for everyone. Give the man a chance!
Outside Looking in

Advance, MO

#19 Nov 20, 2009
the only way to stop the madness and start with changes are to get rid of the people who were right in the middle of the messes. There are a few still there and are clawing to maintain "What Was" I like Ms Ellenburg but face it, She was right in there and NEVER stood up for what is right! Maybe she is sorry for it but she is still settled comfortably where she is and STILL not standing up for what is right! Put your kids in the position of the kids that are being wronged and see how it feels. If she is a christion then read your bible and do what is RIGHT and what it takes to do what is right even if it is uncomfortable, sometimes you own family is WRONG. o integrity left and doen't look like they are trying to get any back. They sold their sole long ago to the Devil!
Outside Looking in

Advance, MO

#20 Nov 20, 2009
The boys basketball coaches have no integrity left and doesn't look like they are trying to get any back. They sold their sole long ago to the Devil! The boys playing don't have respect anymore. Heck they don't want to play anymore but the coaches talk them into it.

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