Albuquerque voters overwhelmingly app...

Albuquerque voters overwhelmingly approve minimum wage hike

There are 120 comments on the KOB-TV story from Nov 7, 2012, titled Albuquerque voters overwhelmingly approve minimum wage hike. In it, KOB-TV reports that:

Albuquerque voters have overwhelmingly approved a proposal that would raise the minimum wage in the city from $7.50 to $8.50 a hour.

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“Shoot First, Think Never”

Since: Jun 09

Elk Grove

#101 Nov 14, 2012
Instead of raising the minimum wage...why don't you lower prices to minimum prices? Then people can afford things and they won't need their wages raised...

Example...if a car costs 10,000 dollars slash the price in half and allow a person to buy it for 50 per month.
Yeah

Huntsville, AL

#102 Nov 14, 2012
Cowboy up wrote:
Now that businesses are required to pay their work force more....they will have to increase prices. Food service establishments that rely minimum wage workers especially. Get Ready for higher prices at the Drive thru.
Cowboy up. That nickle on your Big Mac isn't going to kill you. Maybe the Big Mac will.

Since: Jun 08

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#103 Nov 14, 2012
Yeah wrote:
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Cowboy up. That nickle on your Big Mac isn't going to kill you. Maybe the Big Mac will.
lol, yup!

Since: Dec 10

Albuquerque

#104 Nov 14, 2012
CornDogz wrote:
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Santa Fe is an over hyped and overpriced 'wannabe' artsy community where a lot of very unfriendly people live. Few can afford to live there thus the colonias surrounding it that SF proper despises. They have the Rail Robber Express white elephant but few ride it except state employees. Not everyone is unfriendly but in my long term observations most seem to be. SF is more like the arm pit of the Rio Grande corridor. The powerful, and the poor, little middle ground.
Yeah, people who visit there from other places and spend their money there should stop immediately. New Mexico's economy will be fine without them.

Since: Aug 08

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#105 Nov 14, 2012
Willothewisp wrote:
That is a hoot. My property taxes have tripled since owning the house. It can get close to the amount it would take to rent an apartment. So you end up paying rent to the county, city, state for land you purchased. And the game of how we rank (431 out of 806 counties) does not take into account our geographical isolation, economy etc.. Though those stats can be found.
Love the our taxes are not as onerous as other places to feel better about being ripped off. Notice that your income can go down but your property taxes always go up?
Yep! The really sad part is that my "assessed value" is about $45k higher than my property is actually worth!

Since: Aug 08

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#106 Nov 14, 2012
Knightmare wrote:
Instead of raising the minimum wage...why don't you lower prices to minimum prices? Then people can afford things and they won't need their wages raised...
Example...if a car costs 10,000 dollars slash the price in half and allow a person to buy it for 50 per month.
Oy, where do I start?.........Not your most intelligent post..........
That

Huntsville, AL

#107 Nov 14, 2012
Just left of right wrote:
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Yep! The really sad part is that my "assessed value" is about $45k higher than my property is actually worth!
can be protested with the assessor, but I don't believe you. I've never seen an assessment of a residence where the owner has been there for more than 5 years that was even close to reaching the fair market value.

“Shoot First, Think Never”

Since: Jun 09

Elk Grove

#108 Nov 15, 2012
Just left of right wrote:
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Oy, where do I start?.........Not your most intelligent post..........
Yeah...I was just playing around...the concept is...kind of...on the level of Bill Maher...

Since: Aug 08

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#109 Nov 15, 2012
That wrote:
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can be protested with the assessor, but I don't believe you. I've never seen an assessment of a residence where the owner has been there for more than 5 years that was even close to reaching the fair market value.
Yes, I can protest but every year something comes up and I miss the deadline. The assessed value of my home includes about 300 non-existant square feet (realtor specs included an enclosed outdoor space) and a bathroom and two fireplaces that don't exist either. Ask CD, I'm pretty sure he said he was able to get his reassessed. By the way, I don't give a rat's butt whether you believe me or not!

Since: Aug 08

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#110 Nov 15, 2012
Knightmare wrote:
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Yeah...I was just playing around...the concept is...kind of...on the level of Bill Maher...
Aahhhhhh, yep, true!
Well

Huntsville, AL

#111 Nov 15, 2012
Just left of right wrote:
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Yes, I can protest but every year something comes up and I miss the deadline. The assessed value of my home includes about 300 non-existant square feet (realtor specs included an enclosed outdoor space) and a bathroom and two fireplaces that don't exist either. Ask CD, I'm pretty sure he said he was able to get his reassessed. By the way, I don't give a rat's butt whether you believe me or not!
there's your problem and why your assertion made no sense and I didn't believe it. The description of your home is incorrect and you haven't corrected it. Those features you don't have would probably add up to 100k to the market value depending on the area and market conditions.

I know what I am talking about.

“Each Thought Creates A Reality”

Since: Nov 08

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#112 Nov 15, 2012
http://www.bernco.gov/upload/images/assessor/...
http://www.bernco.gov/upload/images/assessor/...

I am assuming JLOR that you are in BernCo. Filled out these forms? I know that they will come out and measure, especially if you are doing an addition. Can give copies of original mortgage, whatever, or home insurance which should have description of house. Can also look at what was filed. Pictures. Worth the time depending on the difference in tax bill from what you are now assessed and what might happen if you prove less sq footage etc..

“US Navy”

Since: Jan 10

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#113 Nov 15, 2012
Just left of right wrote:
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Yes, I can protest but every year something comes up and I miss the deadline. The assessed value of my home includes about 300 non-existant square feet (realtor specs included an enclosed outdoor space) and a bathroom and two fireplaces that don't exist either. Ask CD, I'm pretty sure he said he was able to get his reassessed. By the way, I don't give a rat's butt whether you believe me or not!
Yep, sure did. We have an older home w/ one bathroom, not 1.5 as was being assessed, nor 2 garages. They made it right but any overpayments you made because of THEIR error(s) you will not see. They don't make the process easy, partly I suspect in hopes you'll throw in the towel and they'll keep the extra overpayments.

“US Navy”

Since: Jan 10

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#114 Nov 15, 2012
Just left of right wrote:
<quoted text> By the way, I don't give a rat's butt whether you believe me or not!
Think Tin Foil Hat when you see those posts from SF.

“US Navy”

Since: Jan 10

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#115 Nov 15, 2012
Willothewisp wrote:
http://www.bernco.gov/upload/i mages/assessor/ProtestFormInst ructionsforRealProperty1.pdf
http://www.bernco.gov/upload/images/assessor/...
I am assuming JLOR that you are in BernCo. Filled out these forms? I know that they will come out and measure, especially if you are doing an addition. Can give copies of original mortgage, whatever, or home insurance which should have description of house. Can also look at what was filed. Pictures. Worth the time depending on the difference in tax bill from what you are now assessed and what might happen if you prove less sq footage etc..
Interesting, the process has changed since I had mine done some 30+ years ago. I had to go in person to the Assessors office, be interviewed, speak w/ several people, then they admitted their error and sent someone by when I was at work saying they couldn't schedule such a thing<G>.
MCC

Albuquerque, NM

#116 Jan 16, 2013
Native American wrote:
Why stop at #8.50? Why not vote everyone a $12.50 per hour wage?
Im not happy about the wage going up to 8.50 a hour, because everything is going to go up, like taxes, gas,and so on. A lot of people are going to lose ther jobs cuz of the wage going up becuse alot of business dont want to pay that.
Native American

Albuquerque, NM

#117 Jan 24, 2013
walterfm wrote:
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$20 would be more equitable and better for the economy long-term. But we need to do that gradually, and it should be done at the federal level.
Walter, do you really believe that a local government can set (at a fixed rate) the wage rate for entry level workers employed by independent businesses. Certainly the government can exercise this option but just as easily employers can move to a more "friendly" environment. Let us reverse this for the sake of illustration. In city X wages are set at $1.00 per unit. Set by the voters of this area. City Y just up the tracks allows free markets to determine wages of it's workers. The general average for labor in city Y in more closely related to the number $4.00 per unit. Do you really think that the laborers would not migrate to the higher pay. Absolutely the same migration WILL follow any artificial fixing of wages! It is Econ 101. Your desire for it to be of a national scope, that only means the words city would need to be replaced by nation, in the above illustration. When U start making up "RULES" that run an economy U better make MANY of them, it will be a full time task!!!

“Shoot First, Think Never”

Since: Jun 09

Elk Grove

#118 Jan 24, 2013
Native American wrote:
<quoted text>Walter, do you really believe that a local government can set (at a fixed rate) the wage rate for entry level workers employed by independent businesses. Certainly the government can exercise this option but just as easily employers can move to a more "friendly" environment. Let us reverse this for the sake of illustration. In city X wages are set at $1.00 per unit. Set by the voters of this area. City Y just up the tracks allows free markets to determine wages of it's workers. The general average for labor in city Y in more closely related to the number $4.00 per unit. Do you really think that the laborers would not migrate to the higher pay. Absolutely the same migration WILL follow any artificial fixing of wages! It is Econ 101. Your desire for it to be of a national scope, that only means the words city would need to be replaced by nation, in the above illustration. When U start making up "RULES" that run an economy U better make MANY of them, it will be a full time task!!!
Careful....you're making way too much sense....you'll blow their minds....
Fun Facts

Huntsville, AL

#119 Feb 6, 2013
Native American wrote:
<quoted text>Walter, do you really believe that a local government can set (at a fixed rate) the wage rate for entry level workers employed by independent businesses. Certainly the government can exercise this option but just as easily employers can move to a more "friendly" environment. Let us reverse this for the sake of illustration. In city X wages are set at $1.00 per unit. Set by the voters of this area. City Y just up the tracks allows free markets to determine wages of it's workers. The general average for labor in city Y in more closely related to the number $4.00 per unit. Do you really think that the laborers would not migrate to the higher pay. Absolutely the same migration WILL follow any artificial fixing of wages! It is Econ 101. Your desire for it to be of a national scope, that only means the words city would need to be replaced by nation, in the above illustration. When U start making up "RULES" that run an economy U better make MANY of them, it will be a full time task!!!
Reminds me of Walmart and Ruidoso. Walmart wanted to expand, Ruidoso didn't want that to happen. Walmart moved not a mile down the same street to Ruidoso Downs. All the tax revenue that Walmart generates now goes to Ruidoso Downs. Same thing happened in Chicago and I bet many other places that never made headlines.
Fun Facts

Huntsville, AL

#120 Feb 6, 2013
MCC wrote:
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Im not happy about the wage going up to 8.50 a hour, because everything is going to go up, like taxes, gas,and so on. A lot of people are going to lose ther jobs cuz of the wage going up becuse alot of business dont want to pay that.
Not sure how much job loss it will cause, but I am sure it will result in higher prices for the products produced and a slow down of hiring more individuals at the entry level.

But the state wants more tax money. This will generate more tax money. If a big mac goes from $2 to $2.25 then sales tax to the state will increase. The unemployment fund gets more money as the premiums are determined by wages.

Not a state fund, but social security and medicare taxes, FICA, will go up putting more money into those funds so our federal government can spend more. They shouldn't spend it, but they will.

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