Assault Weapons Ban of 2013-How Does ...

Assault Weapons Ban of 2013-How Does Albuquerque Feel About It?

Created by Dawdler2122 on Jan 9, 2013

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Don't Support It At All-Will Not Comply With It.

Yes, I Support It Wholeheartedly.

I Don't Support It -But Will Comply With It.

I Don't Have Enough Information Yet.

I Don't Know How I Feel About It.

I Don't Care One Way Or The Other.

Everyone, Except Felons & Nuts Should Be Armed!

I Don't Want To Say How I Feel About It.

“Shoot First, Think Never”

Since: Jun 09

Elk Grove

#228 Jan 16, 2013
fmer505-1951 wrote:
<quoted text>Then your grandfather is wrong! All veterans have sacrificed for our freedom. Some were drafted, some joined, but regardless they were there looking out for each other, and us. Some made it back alive, but not without scars, some never came home, and some came back in pine boxes, or all the families got were dog tags. They all deserve respect for the sacrifices made. It makes no difference what their political belief may be. I am certain there are veterans, such as my nephew who is a Republican and does not agree with my political beliefs, but I respect him for the sacrifices he has made in Iraq and Afghanistan.
To be fair grandfather probably dealt with ptsd before anyone knew about that...the stories he told of serving in the Pacific...graphic...

Saving Private Ryan? That was pretty much the kind of graphic stories...
TheatreTech01

Albuquerque, NM

#229 Jan 16, 2013
Willothewisp wrote:
<quoted text>
You obviously didn't go to the CDC site. I guess in your mind the Children's Defense Fund trumps the CDC. If there is a discrepancy between their figures who do you think the Children's Defense Fund goes to skew their figures in the first place.
Pretty lame. My mind is made up? Because I use CDC data over your Children's Defense Fund? Nice try at deflection. At least those who went to the CDC site and found the data can compare it against what you claimed. Nice to have facts as a base line.
The same CDF that accused PA Republicans of "starving children" to punish new moms? Yeah. Nice. Fair and unbiased. No Hyperbole.
Sorry, I haven't had a chance to go, I've been too busy celebrating the New York ban of AR and mags and stricter background checks. Remembering your mantra, concerning your numbers: there are lies, damn lies and statistics. So, you can prove what ever fallacy you're endorsing and I can prove mine. Kind of like using the Bible to argue for you. Thou shalt not kill, Winchester. See. TTFN, I'm off to the studio to do the Lord's work. I'll read your cite later, without prejudging it. Hyperbole.

“Shoot First, Think Never”

Since: Jun 09

Elk Grove

#230 Jan 16, 2013
TheatreTech01 wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry, I haven't had a chance to go, I've been too busy celebrating the New York ban of AR and mags and stricter background checks. Remembering your mantra, concerning your numbers: there are lies, damn lies and statistics. So, you can prove what ever fallacy you're endorsing and I can prove mine. Kind of like using the Bible to argue for you. Thou shalt not kill, Winchester. See. TTFN, I'm off to the studio to do the Lord's work. I'll read your cite later, without prejudging it. Hyperbole.
James Cameron isn't god....

“Shoot First, Think Never”

Since: Jun 09

Elk Grove

#231 Jan 16, 2013
TheatreTech01 wrote:
Thank you, New York State. Sensible gun control. Way to go.
They're also banning cokes and junk food....

How nice....komrade....papers please....

“Each Thought Creates A Reality”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#232 Jan 16, 2013
TheatreTech01 wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry, I haven't had a chance to go, I've been too busy celebrating the New York ban of AR and mags and stricter background checks. Remembering your mantra, concerning your numbers: there are lies, damn lies and statistics. So, you can prove what ever fallacy you're endorsing and I can prove mine. Kind of like using the Bible to argue for you. Thou shalt not kill, Winchester. See. TTFN, I'm off to the studio to do the Lord's work. I'll read your cite later, without prejudging it. Hyperbole.
Nice. Mind's made up. Don't let the facts change anything. It was actually for those who like to do research and see how the media and foundations skew things.

And I don't put you in any camp. Please don't try to presume and stereotype me. oopsies. I guess I am guilty. Though it is with how you can dismiss my response to your false numbers without even reading the evidence cited in my rebuttal. Seems that you just do your deflect, stereotype and off to see the wizard. Nice try at baiting also. New York is a great state. I am happy for them.
TheatreTech01

Denver, CO

#233 Jan 16, 2013
Knightmare wrote:
<quoted text>
They're also banning cokes and junk food....
How nice....komrade....papers please....
What a boring little troll you are. Scurry back under your bridge and let the grown ups work.

“Eys so hendsum!”

Since: Jun 09

Ol' Juarez

#234 Jan 16, 2013
Knightmare wrote:
<quoted text>
To be fair grandfather probably dealt with ptsd before anyone knew about that...the stories he told of serving in the Pacific...graphic...
Saving Private Ryan? That was pretty much the kind of graphic stories...
I respect what your grandfather did, but as I said, I don't agree with your bashing of Veterans, or anyone else who may bash them. WWII was a tough war, but so has every other war, or conflict been just as bad. You are correct, PTSD was a term that was not used when returning soldiers from WWII was used, Shell Shock was the term.

“Shoot First, Think Never”

Since: Jun 09

Elk Grove

#235 Jan 16, 2013
fmer505-1951 wrote:
<quoted text>I respect what your grandfather did, but as I said, I don't agree with your bashing of Veterans, or anyone else who may bash them. WWII was a tough war, but so has every other war, or conflict been just as bad. You are correct, PTSD was a term that was not used when returning soldiers from WWII was used, Shell Shock was the term.
Shell shock....forgot that term....

And I apologized....I did overstep....smidge....well maybe more than smidge....

I respect what they do....many of my other relatives were in the military....one of my uncles was a recruiter and through him I was going to go for it but because of the knee injury....I was hoping to join the ranks along with my grandfather{s} and dad and others....but I do support them....I just let my emotions get the best of me with that particular person....
Marge

Cleveland, OH

#236 Jan 16, 2013
Knightmare wrote:
<quoted text>
Shell shock....forgot that term....
And I apologized....I did overstep....smidge....well maybe more than smidge....
I respect what they do....many of my other relatives were in the military....one of my uncles was a recruiter and through him I was going to go for it but because of the knee injury....I was hoping to join the ranks along with my grandfather{s} and dad and others....but I do support them....I just let my emotions get the best of me with that particular person....
Yer just yellow!

ladyboy

“Shoot First, Think Never”

Since: Jun 09

Elk Grove

#237 Jan 16, 2013
Marge wrote:
<quoted text>
Yer just yellow!
ladyboy
Ohio? Where have I seen that before?

Marge don't make go Bart Simpson on you....
TheatreTech01

Denver, CO

#238 Jan 16, 2013
Knightmare wrote:
<quoted text>
Shell shock....forgot that term....
And I apologized....I did overstep....smidge....well maybe more than smidge....
I respect what they do....many of my other relatives were in the military....one of my uncles was a recruiter and through him I was going to go for it but because of the knee injury....I was hoping to join the ranks along with my grandfather{s} and dad and others....but I do support them....I just let my emotions get the best of me with that particular person....
Shell shock was a term coined for WWI veterans. Hunkered down in soggy and cold trenches while enduring hours of unending artillery bombardment. Some of these vets were so traumatized that they lost voluntary muscle control. The flims of the victi ms is pretty unnerving just to watch. WWII equivalent was called battle fatigue. My father spent 3 years in Japanese POW camps and refused to talk about his experiences. As a submariner, he and his crew were tortured and worked as slave laborers in steel mills and ship yards. He lost over a hundred pounds and had sleep issues for the rest of his life. He died at 58 of a heart attack cause by the stresses of his imprisonment.

“US Navy”

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#239 Jan 16, 2013
TheatreTech01 wrote:
<quoted text>Shell shock was a term coined for WWI veterans. Hunkered down in soggy and cold trenches while enduring hours of unending artillery bombardment. Some of these vets were so traumatized that they lost voluntary muscle control. The flims of the victi ms is pretty unnerving just to watch. WWII equivalent was called battle fatigue. My father spent 3 years in Japanese POW camps and refused to talk about his experiences. As a submariner, he and his crew were tortured and worked as slave laborers in steel mills and ship yards. He lost over a hundred pounds and had sleep issues for the rest of his life. He died at 58 of a heart attack cause by the stresses of his imprisonment.
I cannot imagine living like that, then or in the succeeding years.

“Shoot First, Think Never”

Since: Jun 09

Elk Grove

#240 Jan 16, 2013
TheatreTech01 wrote:
<quoted text>Shell shock was a term coined for WWI veterans. Hunkered down in soggy and cold trenches while enduring hours of unending artillery bombardment. Some of these vets were so traumatized that they lost voluntary muscle control. The flims of the victi ms is pretty unnerving just to watch. WWII equivalent was called battle fatigue. My father spent 3 years in Japanese POW camps and refused to talk about his experiences. As a submariner, he and his crew were tortured and worked as slave laborers in steel mills and ship yards. He lost over a hundred pounds and had sleep issues for the rest of his life. He died at 58 of a heart attack cause by the stresses of his imprisonment.
Wow...my grandfather told me of stories like that as well as his friends body parts flying all over....he was in the second wave to liberate the Phillipines....the pacific theatre was truly a difficult one....

“Eys so hendsum!”

Since: Jun 09

Ol' Juarez

#241 Jan 16, 2013
TheatreTech01 wrote:
<quoted text>Shell shock was a term coined for WWI veterans. Hunkered down in soggy and cold trenches while enduring hours of unending artillery bombardment. Some of these vets were so traumatized that they lost voluntary muscle control. The flims of the victi ms is pretty unnerving just to watch. WWII equivalent was called battle fatigue. My father spent 3 years in Japanese POW camps and refused to talk about his experiences. As a submariner, he and his crew were tortured and worked as slave laborers in steel mills and ship yards. He lost over a hundred pounds and had sleep issues for the rest of his life. He died at 58 of a heart attack cause by the stresses of his imprisonment.
You are right, and I stand corrected. My grandfather was a WWI vet, and two uncles WWII vets and I got turned around. Thanks for correcting me. I am so sorry to hear that because of the trauma your dad endured he died at a young age. I salute your father, and thank him for his service.
Hagar

Sterling Heights, MI

#242 Jan 16, 2013
Back to the main topic - After today's presidential edict what is going to happen - will Congress go along, or will BO just issue another EO to implement his agenda?
TheatreTech01

Albuquerque, NM

#243 Jan 16, 2013
Hagar wrote:
Back to the main topic - After today's presidential edict what is going to happen - will Congress go along, or will BO just issue another EO to implement his agenda?
It will be a struggle, no doubt about it. I hope it passes and becomes law. It's the right thing to do. In no way does it take anybody's guns away. It stops the gun show and collector sales loop holes and limits magazine capacity. The EOs were mostly making existing laws easier to enforce and the studies of the correlation to violence in the media is long over due and exactly what the NRA wants. The best way to keep emotionally impaired people from buying guns is to make sure they are properly screened.
legal eagle

Albuquerque, NM

#244 Jan 16, 2013
you have the right to bear arms in this country.
IMO
"arms" are not:
grenades
gasoline bombs
sub machine guns
50 shot clips for any "gun"
assault weapons
flame throwers
cannons
mortars
for those who care, there's still going to be legal ways you can protect yourself with a GUN from all those bad people wanting to prey upon you.
It's just if there are more than 100 you'll be SOL
TheatreTech01

Albuquerque, NM

#245 Jan 16, 2013
Willothewisp wrote:
http://webappa.cdc.gov/cgi-bin /broker.exe
Try children as age 14 and under. See what it adds up to and see how stats are skewed.
This is CDC data.
Okay I went to your cite where they stated 10 children and teens die everyday from gun fire. 10x364=3,640 kids per year. Thanks for validating my point. CDC info from your cite, following your link.

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#246 Jan 16, 2013
TheatreTech01 wrote:
<quoted text>Shell shock was a term coined for WWI veterans. Hunkered down in soggy and cold trenches while enduring hours of unending artillery bombardment. Some of these vets were so traumatized that they lost voluntary muscle control. The flims of the victi ms is pretty unnerving just to watch. WWII equivalent was called battle fatigue. My father spent 3 years in Japanese POW camps and refused to talk about his experiences. As a submariner, he and his crew were tortured and worked as slave laborers in steel mills and ship yards. He lost over a hundred pounds and had sleep issues for the rest of his life. He died at 58 of a heart attack cause by the stresses of his imprisonment.
There was a fella in my neighborhood when I was a kid who had a permanent brain injury from a grenade blast, so the story went. He had a grossly uneven gait and spun involuntarily every twenty or so steps. The other men in the neighborhood educated us kids about him, so even the bullies gave him respect. I think these days there would be effective treatment for him.

“Each Thought Creates A Reality”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#248 Jan 17, 2013
TheatreTech01 wrote:
<quoted text>Okay I went to your cite where they stated 10 children and teens die everyday from gun fire. 10x364=3,640 kids per year. Thanks for validating my point. CDC info from your cite, following your link.
Nice try...had to go to age 19. Didn't realize that you were that dishonest. Will let others use it and they can count. Will leave it at that.

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