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Robinson: In praise of the Rail Runner - Ruidoso News

There are 56 comments on the Ruidoso News story from Mar 22, 2011, titled Robinson: In praise of the Rail Runner - Ruidoso News. In it, Ruidoso News reports that:

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Since: Feb 11

United States

#1 Mar 28, 2011
How interesting that the majority of democratic voters live north of I-40 and almost all the funds appropriated for projects, as well as all the buildings that have tubby bills name on them, are also north of I-40. Just a thought. Sherry your bias continues to show.

Deputy276

“Not vengeance, punishment.”

Since: Oct 09

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#2 Mar 29, 2011
There is the Bridge to Nowhere...we have the Train to Nowhere. They built a train that nobody uses. How wonderful. Too bad we can't sell it just like we can't sell Fat Bill's airplanes.
CornDogz

Albuquerque, NM

#4 Mar 29, 2011
Bedrock Bob wrote:
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Actually the train goes from Belen to Santa Fe with a lot of stops in between...Los Lunas, Albuquerque, the pueblos and Santa Fe. And there are quite a few riders.
It was not a financialy wise investment, but it is a great idea. I dont think public transportation of any kind pays for itself, but with a little effort the Rail Runner could certainly double ridership. The idea was not that bad but the execution and management is why people dont ride the train.
With the buses that connect to the rail I can travel to any town in the Santa Fe/Albuquerque area cheaply and efficiently. I know Deputo41 does nto like the idea but I save $18 a day in gasoline by riding the train 300 miles to work and back instead of driving.
Hmmm, and taxpayers pay how much of YOUR daily fare? HINT: fare recovery was 13% when last posted by MRCOG, hence taxpayers within the corridor pick-up 87% of your daily round trip fare. Ya gotta love that taxpayer funded "STATE EMPLOYEE EXPRESS" known as the FailRunner - aka King Bill's inflated ego choo choo.

I do agree its a great concept, but a lousy fit and deal for taxpayers in the corridor given its real ridership(less than 1/4th of 1% of the corridor population) and the fare structure. Buses would have been much more flexible for riders and economical for taxpayers.
If it

Santa Fe, NM

#5 Mar 29, 2011
Deputy276 wrote:
There is the Bridge to Nowhere...we have the Train to Nowhere.
went to silver city it would be a train to nowhere.
CornDogz

Albuquerque, NM

#6 Mar 29, 2011
If it wrote:
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went to silver city it would be a train to nowhere.
Santa Fe - same thing!
right

Santa Fe, NM

#7 Mar 29, 2011
CornDogz wrote:
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Santa Fe - same thing!
one of the top tourist destinations in the country is nowhere.
Clueless

Deputy276

“Not vengeance, punishment.”

Since: Oct 09

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#8 Mar 30, 2011
right wrote:
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one of the top tourist destinations in the country is nowhere.
Clueless
In your dreams. It's about the train being a loser, not your gay capital.
dpb

Lamar, CO

#9 Mar 30, 2011
Phque you and your ilk "deputy dog." Many of us are very happy to see NM move into the new Century with this project. Your foresight is about to the end of your lying nose you ignorant obstructionist.
By stander

United States

#11 Mar 30, 2011
I've noticed more people riding the train. I agree that it broke the state but as time turns it will probably pay out not because it was a wise idea but because Obmaba is a nut and gas prices are 4 bucks a gallon.
not

Santa Fe, NM

#12 Mar 30, 2011
By stander wrote:
gas prices are 4 bucks a gallon.
quite back where they were during Bush before his recession kicked in.

Are you accusing the president of being one of those wall street speculators, fronting for an oil company manipulating the marketplace, somehow connected to increased worldwide demand or being a secret member of OPEC?
Gee

Santa Fe, NM

#14 Mar 31, 2011
John Willowby wrote:
How interesting that the majority of democratic voters live ...
most of the people in the state live in the central/northern Rio Grande corridor as well. Startling revelation. Mass transit needs masses.
WTF-2

Ruidoso, NM

#15 Mar 31, 2011
When I moved to NM in 2003 the state had a surplus of somewhere around $400 million if memory serves...two projects..Rail Runner and Spaceport moved the State to a deficit of $400 million...if my non-NM education works, that is an $800 million dollar swing caused by two projcets that only Uncle Bill and a few crazed liberals wanted.
Question: do the highly touted members of the film industry get a discount for riding the Rail Runner while counting their State issued tax breaks?
WTF-2

Ruidoso, NM

#17 Mar 31, 2011
It does make a difference to me, so I appreciate your reply. I like to have facts, not just hearsay or opinion. I guess being 90 degrees off is better than being off 180 degrees.

If you could explain the surplus thing to me I would be very interested in knowing how the state could still have a surplus of funds, but a deficit in budget. Being serious here...doesn't make sense to me.
Hey

Santa Fe, NM

#18 Mar 31, 2011
WTF-2 wrote:
When I moved to NM in 2003 the state had a surplus of somewhere around $400 million if memory serves...two projects..Rail Runner and Spaceport moved the State to a deficit of $400 million...if my non-NM education works, that is an $800 million dollar swing caused by two projcets that only Uncle Bill and a few crazed liberals wanted.
Question: do the highly touted members of the film industry get a discount for riding the Rail Runner while counting their State issued tax breaks?
you guys got a runway named for Bill. It has no utility or public use and should ahve been stopped since most of the construction occurred after the recession.

Public transportation is a good thing.

But your numbers are all wrong and there is nothing "liberal" about Richardson's folly there.

I dunno

Santa Fe, NM

#21 Mar 31, 2011
WTF-2 wrote:
When I moved to NM in 2003 the state had a surplus of somewhere around $400 million if memory serves
?
if you heard? There was a worldwide recession and the price of oil went down. Almost all states are in the hole.

Happy to help.

WTF-2

Ruidoso, NM

#22 Mar 31, 2011
thank you....I seriously do appreciate the information

so what can the "rainy day fund" be used for?
WTF-2

Ruidoso, NM

#24 Mar 31, 2011
Thank You Bedrock...appreciate the info. I am proof that you can teach an old dog a new trick,,,,LOL
interesting

Mountain View, CA

#25 Mar 31, 2011
Bedrock Bob wrote:
The answer to your question is "no". Members of the film industry do not get to ride the Rail Runner at reduced cost. The members of the film industry get no benefit at all from the State of New Mexico in any way. No tax breaks, no free rides, and no special treatment.
Really? In my town they got support because of a spouse being on the council. Kind of doing it as a special treatment of some kind, ya think?
Bedrock Bob

Santa Fe, NM

#26 Mar 31, 2011
interesting wrote:
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Really? In my town they got support because of a spouse being on the council. Kind of doing it as a special treatment of some kind, ya think?
I believe we were talking about tax breaks. Let's not argue semantics here. We all know certain people get special treatment for various reasons. No laws have been enacted that provide tax breaks for those involved in the movie industry. That was the subject and it was my only assertion.

Deputy276

“Not vengeance, punishment.”

Since: Oct 09

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#27 Apr 1, 2011
Maybe they can build rail lines to the Spaceport. Then you would have a white elephant servicing a white elephant.

Train ridership in the US has been on a decline for decades. AMTRAK has to be heavily subsidized to remain in business. That's WHY trains dumped passenger service in favor of just freight service. Passenger service was a LOSER. Poeple either drive or fly planes. Trains are too slow and don't go where people want to go. With the price of oil skyrocketing, the operation of the Railrunner is gonna be less and less profitable.
Of course, we can thank Mr. Anti-fossil fuel, the Ditherer-in-Chief Odumbo, for keeping the oil prices up. As to the Railrunner, I'm sure happy that a small segment of the population gets to ride on Fat Bill's Choo Choo. Sure helps out the rest of the state. How about they JUST tax those that are using the train instead of hitting up people who will NEVER ride it?

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