Berkeley Killing Arraignment Marked B...

Berkeley Killing Arraignment Marked By Tense Moments

There are 50 comments on the NBC 11 San Francisco Bay Area story from May 16, 2008, titled Berkeley Killing Arraignment Marked By Tense Moments. In it, NBC 11 San Francisco Bay Area reports that:

Tensions ran high as Nathaniel Freeman was arraigned on murder charges Friday in connection with the shooting death of Oakland Parks and Recreation employee Maceo Smith one block south of the University of ...

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youngster

Walnut Creek, CA

#21 Jan 4, 2009
All i know is the kill or be killed mentality gets no where, peace and unity is the only solution but then again the world is not a perfect place but one worth fighting for
BERKELEY RESIDENT

United States

#22 Jan 14, 2009
MACEO SMITH WAS NOT ARMED AND THAT IS A FACT. NATHANIEL FREEMAN WAS ARMED THAT IS A FACT. PER COURT PROCEDDINGS TODAY FREEMAN SHOT MACEO 3 TIMES ONE BEING IN THE BACK, WHICH SHOWS MACEO WAS RUNNING AWAY AND HE STILL SHOT HIM. SO WHO'S THE GANG MEMBER? LETS ADD THIS UP NATHANIEL FREEMAN HAD A GUN, SHOT MACEO 3 TIMES, ONE IN THE CHEST, ONE IN THE NECK (WHICH HE WAS PROBABLY AIMING FOR THE HEAD), AND ONCE IN THE BACK. MARCUS MOSELY WAS SHOT 4 TIMES IN THE CHEST IT APPEARS TO ME HE WAS TRYING TO KILL AND NOT DEFEND HIMSELF AND THEN HE RAN YOU CAN RESEARCH MY STATEMENT THESE ARE FACTS THE TRUTH IS IT'S A GOOD THING FREEMAN IS IN JAIL BECAUSE I WOULDN'T WANT HIM WORKING WITH MY KID TEACHING 101 HOW TO KILL A MAN. FREEMAN CAME FROM MONEY AND HAS A PANEL OF LAWYERS AND THINKS THAT WILL SAVE HIM FROM SPENDING THE REST OF HIS LIFE IN JAIL HIS PARENTS ARE FOOTING A BILL THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE ALONG TIME AGO ON PSCY. HELP PEOPLE IN BERKELEY DON'T HAVE TO CARRY GUNS OUR MURDER RATE IS VERY LOW FREEMAN WANTED TO PRETEND HE WAS SOMEONE HE WASN'T AND KILLED MACEO SMITH IN COLD BLOOD MURDER IN BROAD DAYLIGHT AS UC STUDENTS AND FAMILIES WHERE HEADING TO A GRADUATION CERMONY AND YOUNG KIDS WHERE WALKING THE STREETS JUST TO BE DOWN SO WHO SAID HE CARES ABOUT KIDS AND HE WAAS HARMLESS O YEAH WHO HARMLESS ACTUALLY CARRIES A GUN IN THEIR BACKPACK AND HAS THE ABILITY TO UNLOAD HIS CLIP AND EVER BULLET HIT HIS TARGETS HE SOUNDS LIKE A PROFFESIONAL KILLER HARMLESS GUY
The Real Truth

United States

#23 Jan 14, 2009
Berkeley Parent wrote:
Is is known whether Mosley was armed, or told Freeman he was? The victims here sound scarier than the shooter. A 19 year-old in Berkeley would have access to a weapon, and might well be carrying if he'd been threatened. Obviously Freeman made bad choices, but I"d like to know more about what went on that day, and the during the previous altercation.
From the real truth:
I don't know how an unarmed man sounds scarier than a boy who carries a gun in his backpack and shots to kill men who never even touched him. AN ARUGMENT DOESN'T POSS A THREAT TO ANOTHER TO THE POINT TO KILL ANOTHER MAN. MAKING UP STORIES OF WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE THE BURTAL KILLING DOESN'T JUSTIFY FREEMANS ACTIONS. IF HE WAS SUCH A "GOOD" KID WHY DID HE HAVE A GUN THEY DON'T GROW ON TREES AND CAN'T BE OBTAINED THAT QUICKLY SOOOO HE HAD IT THE GUN BEFORE ANYTHING WENT DOWN THAT DAY PERIOD ONLY SOMEONE IGNORANT COULDN'T SEE THAT
The Real Truth

United States

#24 Jan 14, 2009
fullstory wrote:
I've heard that Freeman's family and friends had to be escorted out of the Bay Area by the police or they would have been killed by gang members...
how come this isn't mentioned anywhere in the news!
from what I know of Berkeley, these kids have to carry guns or risk getting shot..
something is right when young men think masculinity is found in a gun.
WELL THE RESON IT WASN'T IN THE NEWS IS BECAUSE IT IS BULL SHIT THEY WEREN'T RAN OUT OF NOW WHERE AND YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT BERKEKY MAYBE YOU SHOULD RESEARCH BERKELEY'S MURDER RATES OVER THE LAST DECADE AND THEN MAKE A MORE EDUCATED COMMENT ON WHETHER KIDS ALL CARRY GUNS WHAT IS YOUR CRIME / MURDER RATE?MAYBE YOU ARE CONFUSING BERKELEY WITH YOU HOMETOWN -KEEP IT STRAIGHT FROM ON OR ARE YOU FREEMANS FAMILY THIS KIND OF COMMENTS DON'T MAKE EVDIENCE SO WILL NOT HELP HIS CASE AND MAY HE SPEND THE REST OF HIS SORRY LIFE FOR EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRR
The Real Truth

United States

#25 Jan 14, 2009
Hudson Valley NY wrote:
Nathaniel has been working with young children at the Episcopial church and is doing after school programs with children. He is not a bad young man. Unfortunately so many of our children feel they have to have guns to defend themselves or to prove their manhood. What really happened that afternoon? What is the other side of the story and how can our society get guns out of the hands of our children and young people.
I DON'T CARE THAT HE WAS WORKING IN A CHURCH WITH KIDS AND PEOPLE THINK HE IS A GOOD PERSON FOR THAT!!! LITTLE BOYS WHO WERE RAPED BY PRIEST THOUHGT THEY WERE GOOD PEOPLE TOO BUT WERE VERY WRONG!!!!!!FREEMAN IS A KID WHO CARRIED A GUN AND KILLED A MAN WITH THREE CHILDREN AND SHOWS NO REMORSE IN THE COURT ROOM AT ALL WHEN HE GIVES FAMILY MEMBERS DIRTY LOOKS AS IF HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG. MACEO DIDN'T EVEN TOUCH HIM HOW MUCH DANGER WAS HE IN??HOW SHALL WE SAY HE WAS ONE OF THOSE STUPID KIDS WANTING TO BE TOUGH IN FRONT OF HIS FRIEND??/
The Real Truth

United States

#26 Jan 14, 2009
Confused wrote:
Why is it the victim is such a upstanding citizen but he was there to back up his former brother in law in intimdating a 19 yr old kid? 20 mins of harassment 2 on one. Hum. What made Nathaniel feel that he had no choice.... did he see they had a gun? The family swisked out of town. Great now who is there for Nathaniel at court? These victims are still running people out of town with their gang affiliations. Anyone think this might have been self defense?
WOW INTERESTING YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT AN ARGUEMENT EVEN A FIGHT DOESN'T GIVE A MAN THE RIGHT TO TAKE ANOTHERS LIFE. AND GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT THE FAMILY HAS NEVER BEEN THREATENED NOR RAN OUT OF TOWN MAYBE THAT IS THEY STORY TO MAKE FREEMANS CASES SOUND BETTER BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE LAW ONLY FACTS STAND AND THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF ANY ONE MAKING THREATS TO HIS FAMILY. AND IF YOU WERE EDUCATED YOU'D KNOW THAT HIS FAMILY IS IN COURT JUST YESTERDAY SO THINK AND GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU SPEAK AND QUIT MAKING JUSTIFCAIONS FOR FREEMAN KILLING A FATHER IN FRONT OF WITNESS REMEMBER THERE IS VIDEO TAPE SHOWING THE BURTAL MURDER SO DEFEND THAT DUMMY
The Real Truth

United States

#27 Jan 14, 2009
HippieRemover wrote:
What I wanna know is why the offending gang member has not received free education yet?
What about his tax-payer funded $50 gift card to Star Bucks?
How can the hippies in SanFragcisco have a good gang-party without starbucks?
I demand the United Nations initialize a formal investigation.
/
What the f**k r u talking about
bayboi925

Antioch, CA

#28 Jan 23, 2009
i miss my dude maceo 2 everybody who dont know bout wat happens needs 2 shut up.....man its all bad for mosely point blank ......yadddameeen
LESTER JACKSON

United States

#30 Jun 3, 2009
anyone with info on marcus moseley please contact me at toll free 866-291-3092 ext 256.if you know his whereabouts, where he resides, where he frequently hangs please give me a call.if you have any info on the cadillac he drives please give me a call.the info will be confidential and greatly appreciated.
OAKLAND MAN

Walnut Creek, CA

#31 Sep 3, 2009
I am very disturbed by this whole thing. The fact of the matter is that NO ONE knows what happened there. They say that Smith and Mosley didn't have a gun. How are you so sure Mosley drove to the hospital in such a hurry leaving his brother in law to die. He very easily could have ditched the gun along the way. In all honesty there is no excuse for murder but Mosley and Smith two adults were following a 19 year old for 20 minutes before they were shot it makes you wonder why they were in such a pursuit. If they were honestly that upset about an altercation with a teenager that doesn't say much about how mature they are. Also people need to realize that Smith and Mosley although were not convicted had charges relating to firearms and were known by police. So to say that they were complete angels is a lie that is believed by ignorance. It is sad that a man died that fathered three but for the sake of his children shouldn't he have acted like an adult and not have got involved in an argument because of his brother in law? The mature thing would have been to walk away instead of follow. Obviously there are pieces missing from this story.
OAKLAND MAN

Walnut Creek, CA

#32 Sep 3, 2009
Maceo Smith, who was murdered in Berkeley on May 13, was arrested in 2005 with two other men for a Richmond double murder that was retaliation for an earlier Oakland murder, according to Berkeley Police Sergeant Mary Kusmiss.

The Richmond victims were "bombarded with gunfire," according to a July 22, 2005 San Francisco Chronicle article, which continued: "Arrested Thursday were Emando Roos, 26, of Hayward, and Maceo Smith, 30, and Dwayne Murphy, 24, both of Berkeley. Three other men are wanted in connection with the killings: Koffi Thomas, 30, of Hayward, and Joseph Carroll Jr., 18, and Jason Parrot, 32, both of Berkeley.

GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT
shawnee

Mount Holly, NJ

#33 Sep 10, 2009
they jus arrested hm cause he be black. that's the only reason he done killed nobody he jus be doin what needs to be done in the hood
whatever

Berkeley, CA

#34 Oct 19, 2009
Oakland parent and friend wrote:
THERE IS ABSOLUTLY NO EXCUSE FOR MURDERING A FATHER OF THREE. Anger management would be the solution not brandishing weapons and murdering a guy that I have known for years and never ever had a bad encounter with. Besides my personal connection with the victim, let's not forget the value of having our black men home with their families. He has three sons who will be just three more fatherless black males who may not have the benefit of ever learning how to make good and sound judgement.I have had many disagreements and somehow murder has never been an option. Something is seriously wrong with this individual. None of the witnesses say anything about any physical contact, so a mere argument provokes you? I understand why the family moved because maceo was loved and cherished by so many. But his greatest fear shouldn't be death.Death is easy. Killing is a cowards way out. Unable to face real life situations that we have all managed to deal with. No, what he should fear is his pitiful soul burning in hell. He'll never be half the man maceo was and even death won't change that. So if you want to sit at your computer and speak on the behalf of a heathen- Join him in hell and burn with him. Flame-on
maceo should not have pulled out that gun. he would not have been shot. being polite, forget em marcus too. marcus should have died instead
Williby

Hayward, CA

#35 Oct 21, 2009
Whom ever caused the gun to be in the hands of the murderer is just as guilty as the murderer.

http://willibys-corruptjustice.blogspot.com/
b-town bernard

Santa Cruz, CA

#36 Nov 9, 2009
free grapes.. he is a good man..it was self defense
b-town bernard

Santa Cruz, CA

#37 Nov 9, 2009
and clearly this whole shit was brought upon by mosley.
not maceo, so rip maceo, but nate is a good man
Berkeley Hood Rat

Jacksonville, FL

#38 Jun 16, 2010
Live by the sword, die by the sword. I knew Maceo very well. God bless his soul. I pray that he found the Lord before his death, but I doubt it. As someone who knew him, YES, he was a GANG banger, A PUNK, a drug dealer a woman abuser and a not so good father. Oh, but he did have a PART TIME job working with kids... whoopie doo! I don't have anything against him, but I feel he got what he deserved. Too bad his family had to pay for his foolishness. Nowhere was in mention that he had accused and held for some time in Richmond for a MURDER charge of another young black man. Word on the streets is that he did it, but they couldn't prove it. So they had to let him go. There were a few other murders too that he may have been involved in. Funny when people die, people say good things about them. But when Maceo was alive, few had good things to say about him.
As for Marcus Mosley...he is a good "kid". Not like Maceo at all.
BERKELEY NATIVE

Auburn, CA

#39 Jul 16, 2010
JJ dog wrote:
Yes this dude needed back up for a 19 year old kid. How old was Mosley? You got Mace killed you clown need help for a kid. The boy said he didnt want it so why chase him and then call maceo. Honestly you should be gone not mace. Trippin with this kid he told you he didnt want it. How could you leave the scene like that and let mace bleed to death coward.
REALLY BAD THING FOR YOU TO SAY NOBOSY DESERES TO BE GUNNED DOWN AND DIE IN THE STREETS AND NOW HE IS GONE WIT MACE! SAD DAY R.I.P 2 B-TOWN BROTHREN ;(
my 2 cents

Berkeley, CA

#41 Jul 18, 2010
Response to "Berkeley Hood Rat":
you hit the nail on the head. Maceo terrorized his wife, beat her, vandalized her place of business. He terrorized female members of her family, too. "Not so good father" is a very polite way of saying "he was a lousy father", which is closer to the truth. His sons were frequent witnesses to their father unleashing physical & psychological abuse on their mother. Maybe he thought it was good for them to see this because it would make them "hard", or "real men".
Some in the local police force knew him as a snitch.. which might have explained why charges were not brought against him in the cases you mentioned. Whether he was a reliable source of info for them, that's another matter.
When he died, suddenly he became a fallen hero. A small part of me understands why this happens, especially when there are, as in this case, 3 young sons who lost their father due to violence. Believing that their father was a good, kind, caring, generous guy helps the kids to sort out the conflict they feel about him.
Now his sons have lost their uncle, Marcus, who was actually a positive influence in their lives.
Mobbing 4Sho

Fairfield, CA

#42 Aug 8, 2010
Quit pl aying Marcus got Maceo killed they where both no better than the other however I feel no one should try to play God and take no one life no matter what! It's sad all this damn violence and they all broke! Rest in Paradise Dwayne Murphy, Maceo Smith and Marcus Mosley and the rest of the young people passed over bullshit

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