Starting from Golden Gate, Dream Act students make election statement in cross-country walk

There are 20 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Mar 9, 2012, titled Starting from Golden Gate, Dream Act students make election statement in cross-country walk. In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

DREAM Act protestors gather at the University of California, Berkeley at Sather Gate and hold a press conference to announce their walk across America for the DREAM Act on Thursday March 8, 2012, in Berkeley, Calif.

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Alabama DoHicky

Buffalo, NY

#23 Mar 11, 2012
DfwDude wrote:
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Yup I learned you keep spouting the old pro-illegal crap over and over and over.
one of them is a resident of Florida,so I guess he is in the wrong state.
illegal is illegal is illegal...lawbreakers and nothing else.
I guess in your world it is ok to break the law and think you are above it!! What a dreamworld.
Still not convincing anyone.
I used California as an example to prove to you that State residency vs US citizenship is two separate issues. I'm glad you learned something today!
Alabama DoHicky

Buffalo, NY

#24 Mar 11, 2012
sterco wrote:
<quoted text>GOTTA SUCK TO BE YOU GREAZEWAD!!!!
I guess it does. Why else would you hate yourself so much?
sterco

Helena, MT

#25 Mar 11, 2012
Hup two three four we the beaners demand more!!! Hup two three four show us beaners to the door!!!
ima

El Paso, TX

#26 Mar 11, 2012
Alabama DoHicky wrote:
These people deserve amnesty and citizenship. It's their right as US residents.
Not LEGAL residents, they ARE ILLEGAL ALIENS. BIG DIFFERENCE. AND you have to work hard to DESERVE CITIZENSHIP, by applying properly WITHIN THE WRITTEN LAWS!!! untill illegals understand RESPECT OF FOREIGN COUNTRY'S LAWS how can they expect ACCEPTANCE from the country who's laws they trampled??

“Assimilate & Speak English!”

Since: Jan 07

Lansing, IL - now: Pomp Bch FL

#27 Mar 11, 2012
Alabama DoHicky wrote:
These people deserve amnesty and citizenship. It's their right as US residents.
They aren't U.S. Residents, moron. They cannot establish being residents without having a green card. Legal resident aliens have documents proving such. Illegal aliens are nothing more than illegal aliens -- law breakers. What do we do with citizens who break laws? We make them suffer the consequences of their actions.

Illegal aliens are not some special sub-species that deserves better treatment. You are a complete ignorant moron.
Very True

Kansas City, MO

#28 Mar 11, 2012
The California Dream Act is the best approach.
Not So Fast

Kansas City, MO

#29 Mar 11, 2012
Rebel wrote:
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They aren't U.S. Residents, moron. They cannot establish being residents without having a green card. Legal resident aliens have documents proving such. Illegal aliens are nothing more than illegal aliens -- law breakers. What do we do with citizens who break laws? We make them suffer the consequences of their actions.
Illegal aliens are not some special sub-species that deserves better treatment. You are a complete ignorant moron.
Sorry but California has established its own residency requirements that doesn't warrant a green card.

You are 100% wrong.

Amnesty 2012!!!
Laughable

Omaha, NE

#30 Mar 11, 2012
Not So Fast wrote:
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Sorry but California has established its own residency requirements that doesn't warrant a green card.
You are 100% wrong.
Amnesty 2012!!!
And needless to say you're RICO.
Excellent

Kansas City, MO

#31 Mar 11, 2012
California DREAM Act is the way to go.

“Assimilate & Speak English!”

Since: Jan 07

Lansing, IL - now: Pomp Bch FL

#32 Mar 11, 2012
Alabama DoHicky wrote:
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Every time you get a traffic ticket, you broke the law. When you comply with the requirements to rectify the situation you are being rewarded with keeping your ability to drive.
So what's so different here?
LMAO! A traffic ticket is heard in traffic court. You are given a fine for the traffic ticket, as well as court costs. You pay it, and you continue driving. That is the consequence of getting a traffic ticket.

The consequence of walking over our border without the proper paperwork is deportation. It is a misdemeanor and it *could* be heard in criminal court *and* provide fines and court costs to the illegal aliens. However, we give all illegal aliens a break and hear their cases in civil court -- and do not charge them fines and court costs. We could also charge them with the misdemeanor of working without authorizing, getting paid cash under the table and/or not paying taxes on all the monies they earned. We could also charge them with the felony of using a social security number that is not theirs. We do none of that. We deport them after a civil hearing, thus giving them a break.

The consequence for being here illegally is deportation. Can they apply to come legally after being deported? Sure! And IF they qualify, they can come here. However, part of the consequences of them being here illegally could be a 3 to 10 year ban on coming here. So what? That's what the law calls for. No one is stopping them from coming here after. If they qualify, so be it. If not, they cannot come here. We *do* have qualifications to meet in order to be able to immigrate here. Either qualify or stop crying. No country is under any obligation to allow anyone and everyone to immigrate, and that includes the United States.

“Assimilate & Speak English!”

Since: Jan 07

Lansing, IL - now: Pomp Bch FL

#33 Mar 11, 2012
Not So Fast wrote:
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Sorry but California has established its own residency requirements that doesn't warrant a green card.
You are 100% wrong.
Amnesty 2012!!!
Until California secedes from the United States, they are under Federal Law and Federal Statutes state illegal aliens do not belong here and cannot be here. Please post proof that California has provided its own laws for residency, no matter if someone is here legally. And post proof that the federal government has accepted this. If you can't, then YOU ARE WRONG. Because I can post the Federal Statute that says illegal aliens are committing a crime by walking over our border without the proper paperwork and those aiding/abetting and/or encouraging illegal aliens to come here or sty here are committing a felony.

“Assimilate & Speak English!”

Since: Jan 07

Lansing, IL - now: Pomp Bch FL

#34 Mar 11, 2012
Alabama DoHicky wrote:
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Being a resident of a State and being a US Citizen are two separate issues. In other words, an illegal immigrant can be a resident of a State.
Under the California DREAM Act, an illegal immigrant can establish residency by being enrolled in a California school for a particular amount of time and obtaining a California high school diploma.
I'm glad you learned something today.
California is defying our Federal Statutes, which state the aiding/abetting an illegal alien or encouraging them to come here or stay here is a Federal FELONY. Therefore, it's only a matter of time4 before California is cut off from federal funding and the law makers are arrested and put in prison for the felonies they are committing.'Nuff said.

We are all glad YOU learned something today.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#35 Mar 11, 2012
Excellent wrote:
California DREAM Act is the way to go.
the way to go would be for illegals to go home and build up a country as great as this one, but that must be too much work, so they leach.

“Assimilate & Speak English!”

Since: Jan 07

Lansing, IL - now: Pomp Bch FL

#36 Mar 11, 2012
Dreamer wrote:
All you ignorant people..pilgrims
LMAO! Pilgrims? Well, we all await your links to the laws the pilgrims broke. The fact is, illegal aliens are breaking our laws NOW and that's what counts.

You do know that many years ago it was perfectly legal to drive without vehicle insurance and without wearing a seat belt. Now, it's not legal to drive without either. Does that mean we go back and fine those people who drove without vehicle insurance and who didn't wear a seat belt and fine them? NO! Very few laws are retroactive.

What matters NOW is that illegal aliens are breaking our federal laws NOW. What the pilgrims did or didn't do does not really matter to what is occurring today.

When explorers came to this land, there were no immigration laws in place. That is how things were done. People explored lands and conquered them. The Native American Indians even did that to each other -- conquered other tribes, took land, women, etc.

You do realize that if there is no law against it, then it cannot be illegal to do it, right?

Later, after the land was settled, immigration laws, rules, regulations, etc. were put into place. People came through legal ports of entry such as Ellis Island. When people follow the rules and laws in place at that time, that means they came LEGALLY. If one follows the laws and comes legally, they cannot be and are not an illegal alien.

Ellis Island (and other legal ports of entry) were not one big party, and they were not a guarantee of getting in here and being allowed to stay.

120 years ago we NEEDED people to come here and help build this country. We no longer have that need.

Illegal aliens do not belong here and need to be the "good people" they claim to be and thus go home!

“Assimilate & Speak English!”

Since: Jan 07

Lansing, IL - now: Pomp Bch FL

#37 Mar 11, 2012
Alabama DoHicky wrote:
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Every time you get a traffic ticket, you broke the law. When you comply with the requirements to rectify the situation you are being rewarded with keeping your ability to drive.
So what's so different here?
Further, there are different levels of "breaking the law". Just like a person committing a FELONY does not get the same punishment as a person committing a misdemeanor, neither does a person committing a traffic violation get the same punishment as someone committing a misdemeanor. There are even levels of felonies and misdemeanors...first degree, second degree, third degree. You cannot possibly be *that* clueless, can you?

And, even traffic stops have levels. If you're doing 30+ miles per hour above the speed limit here in Florida, you'll be arrested and charged with more than just a traffic stop! Every crime has consequences, but all crimes do not have the *same* consequences, so get over it. Your pet illegal aliens (current day SLAVES) do not belong here and have no right to be here. The consequence of their actions is deportation. Period.

“Assimilate & Speak English!”

Since: Jan 07

Lansing, IL - now: Pomp Bch FL

#38 Mar 11, 2012
Not So Fast wrote:
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Sorry but California has established its own residency requirements that doesn't warrant a green card.
You are 100% wrong.
Amnesty 2012!!!
States can mimic federal immigration laws. They CANNOT go against federal immigration laws. Federal immigration laws say that illegal aliens do not belong here, cannot live here, cannot work here, etc. Illegal aliens have no residency, as they do not belong here. Anyone who is not a citizen MUST carry proof of their legal stay here. Legal resident aliens must carry their green card on their person at ALL times. So say our immigration regulations. Visitors and students must carry their visa on them at ALL times. So say our immigration regulations. Obviously, illegal aliens do not have such papers and thus are illegal, as the only people who do not have to carry identification on them at ALL times are citizens. And if citizens are doing something that requires identification (i.e., driving) then they, too, must carry identification on them.

It's the law, it's the requirements and no whining on your part will change that. If you don't like it, move to a country that does not have those requirements.

“Assimilate & Speak English!”

Since: Jan 07

Lansing, IL - now: Pomp Bch FL

#39 Mar 11, 2012
Excellent wrote:
California DREAM Act is the way to go.
Deportation is the way to go!

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#40 Mar 11, 2012
Alabama DoHicky wrote:
These people deserve amnesty and citizenship. It's their right as US residents.

They are not residents, they are just illegal aliens hiding out in some states. You think they deserve citizenship just for being here?

BTW, they are already citizens, of their home countries.

“Assimilate & Speak English!”

Since: Jan 07

Lansing, IL - now: Pomp Bch FL

#43 Mar 11, 2012
The Manly Man wrote:
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Yea, you've been saying that for years and all you sound like now is a broken record with little to show for.
And morons like you have been touting amnesty for over 7 years and it hasn't happened. Deportations HAVE happened over that time, though. So who is winning?

How can I sound like a broken record when people have most definitely been deported? In fact, Obama claims they've been deported in record numbers.

Shove that up your anal orifice. I'm sure you'll enjoy it.

Your ignorance is abysmal. Don't advertise it.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#45 Mar 12, 2012
Alabama DoHicky wrote:
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Every time you get a traffic ticket, you broke the law. When you comply with the requirements to rectify the situation you are being rewarded with keeping your ability to drive.
So what's so different here?
Never got one...next. Driving and citizenship...light years in difference, my friend.

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