Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Bruno

Los Angeles, CA

#183093 Mar 10, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
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Back in the day, I owned an RD350, and an RZ400. Tough bikes, for their sizes. And I remember the truck accident and the mention of the trees...
I always thought that back in the day, you blew an average of six black men a day at ten dollars a pop.
Some Never Came Home

Beacon, NY

#183094 Mar 10, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
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I see. Speaking my mind makes me a bigot. My Constitutional rights do not matter now, eh? No rights were removed from the gays, there were sodomy laws before Prop 8, but the laws have been getting changed to please the gays. You're mistakenly making a silly analogy. Equality is being taken seriously, but the natural and balanced and correct mating practices are being thrown away, to satisfy some small number of libertines that wish to get governmental benefits from the till. I take equality very seriously, but I do not accept changing the traditional views of marriage to provide benefits for any old pairing off of couples. Do you agree with allowing illegal immigrants to receive amnesty, BTW? Just checking on a hunch...
And I still fail to see any logic what so ever in this and any posts of yours! Sure the benefits are part of what married gays want but there are many other reasons why! There are 10's of thousands of married gay family's many raising children and many married legally in the 10 or so states that allow it! All are tax paying Americans who are only again asking to have the very same rights you and I are allowed as heterosexuals in marriage! I might add there are over 1000 rights and privileges that a legal marriage affords a couple,so as I stated the benefits are part of it but by far not the only reasons that they want legal recognition from the Government and all 50 states! And as far as your question on immigration I believe that all people coming to this country should do so legally the same way my father did coming from Italy in 1905,and the rest deported immediately! Also no anchor children allowed,we are one of the few country's that allow citizenship merely by being born here! So I guess you were guessing wrong on my position on immigration! Sorry to disappoint you! Again,legally married gay couple raising children especially,should be entitled to the very same marriage rights that you and I have and enjoy as straight males,same with females! Oh,and since were talking about classic bikes as a side subject I still have and ride a vintage 1000 Kawi that the California highway patrol used to have on the old T.V. series CHP's! And that thing is as fast as greased lightning and I believe was the fastest stock bike introduced the year they came out! The times they are a changing and come this June you will be a very unhappy bigot,but you will have to live with it! So sad,to bad!

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#183095 Mar 11, 2013
RubyTheDyke wrote:
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Certainly an iteresting biological state of affairs; not sure how you dela with it but hopre in whatever resolutions you found in regards to the issues you faced brought you personal satsifaction and fulfillment.
Daling, it just begs the issue: the FACTS are the existence of gay and lesbian households all over the world with the presence of children that they have guardianship over as their parents, biological and adopted. So while you can make any theories and distictions you want, its the REALITY of the situation, regardless of how that situation came about, that is important, that needs to be addressed in a real manner, based on their real needs and our real and practical capacity, in terms of our governmental social policies, to aid those famiies in their efforts to prosper with the same equality we treat all families.
The fact is hunk, children in default family situations already have MORE assistance then children in the natural family setting.

All of this begs the issue; At it's most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.

Gay couples are a direct defective contradiction of the primary goal of evolution. Literally 'unmarriage'.

All of the necessary and deserved rights and protections are available through civil unions.

Moreover, if homosexuals want validation of their orientation, establish your own relational identity without imposing an imposter relationship on marriage. Even a child can see the difference. Especially if one couple is mom and dad. The only natural ones they will ever have.

Smile.
Anonymous

Lagos, Nigeria

#183097 Mar 11, 2013
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nabi 0097433501988

Doha, Qatar

#183098 Mar 11, 2013
sex

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#183099 Mar 11, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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All of the necessary and deserved rights and protections are available through civil unions.

Smile.
Why do you continue to spread this lie? Please talk to a lawyer regarding federal benefits.

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#183100 Mar 11, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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The fact is hunk, children in default family situations already have MORE assistance then children in the natural family setting.
All of this begs the issue; At it's most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
Gay couples are a direct defective contradiction of the primary goal of evolution. Literally 'unmarriage'.
All of the necessary and deserved rights and protections are available through civil unions.
Moreover, if homosexuals want validation of their orientation, establish your own relational identity without imposing an imposter relationship on marriage. Even a child can see the difference. Especially if one couple is mom and dad. The only natural ones they will ever have.
Smile.
Not much of "hunk" these days as "m'lady Natural" my legal domestic partner decided that if I really valued our life together I'd deal with my health to insure I was around a few more years. Not only am I down to 140 pounds from th 240 I'd been for years but that womyn of mine had me traipsing the side of a mountain yesterday in snowshoes.

Anyway, opinion are like buttholes etc, really bored with opinions that my life and living have blown the hell out of the validity of anyway, but a lot more interested in your personal gender identity and what you chose to do with it. Did you opt for andgogyny, choose some gender drag, or did you feel the need at all to display any sort of definitive gender personae? My own transition was from what one could say was "heavy butch" part of which is my illustrious career as "escort" to wealthy matrons in the time when gender anonymity was advantageous, plus some political ideology of symbolically assuming the trappings of traditional male as a means of saying I assume for myself the power that has traditionally only been reserved for males. A little softer, a lot less radical, not politically focused, and really getting beyond the entire idea of my biological trappings being the definer of my quintessential being. Really, what is the inherent basis of gender identiy, what's left when you are removed from the arbitrary definition mandated by social convention? Indeed, what is it to be human, especilly with the possibility to genetically manipulating humans for other environments might mean our phyiology is radically different than our present form in which we impute our human identity. Be interested in how you dealt with such issues in terms of your ambiguity.
Libertarian Voter

El Cajon, CA

#183101 Mar 11, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Shaddup Archibold Flunky.
It applies, that Prop 8 falls against Constitutional thought.
If the Prop was Unconstitutional in the first place it shouldn't have been allowed in and to be Voted on in the first place. That is what the judge is saying. Calm down. It's not like we are saying you have to be one way or another, but we are saying to look at the constitution and vote on things knowing what the constitution says.
Libertarian Voter

El Cajon, CA

#183102 Mar 11, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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The fact is hunk, children in default family situations already have MORE assistance then children in the natural family setting.
All of this begs the issue; At it's most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
Gay couples are a direct defective contradiction of the primary goal of evolution. Literally 'unmarriage'.
All of the necessary and deserved rights and protections are available through civil unions.
Moreover, if homosexuals want validation of their orientation, establish your own relational identity without imposing an imposter relationship on marriage. Even a child can see the difference. Especially if one couple is mom and dad. The only natural ones they will ever have.
Smile.
What we are asking is to be treated fairly. Don't go the biology rout with me I am a Biology major and can name off 200 species where homosexual activity plays a part. Most of them mammals.
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#183103 Mar 11, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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No, just accurate. Just ask Bill Clinton. What form of birth control do same sex couples use?
Oh puh-leez...... Get a grip. Sex is more than "penis into vagina." If you don't know that, I feel sorry for your wife.
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#183104 Mar 11, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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The fact is hunk, children in default family situations already have MORE assistance then children in the natural family setting.
All of this begs the issue; At it's most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
Gay couples are a direct defective contradiction of the primary goal of evolution. Literally 'unmarriage'.
All of the necessary and deserved rights and protections are available through civil unions.
Moreover, if homosexuals want validation of their orientation, establish your own relational identity without imposing an imposter relationship on marriage. Even a child can see the difference. Especially if one couple is mom and dad. The only natural ones they will ever have.
Smile.
War is peace
Ignorance is strength
Slavery is freedom
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#183105 Mar 11, 2013
Bruno wrote:
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I always thought that back in the day, you blew an average of six black men a day at ten dollars a pop.
And that is proof of why you shouldn't try to think ...Fantasizing about men is all you'll be able to do, I guess...
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#183106 Mar 11, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
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And that is proof of why you shouldn't try to think ...Fantasizing about men is all you'll be able to do, I guess...
...and what are YOU fantasizing about when you post here?
Big D

Modesto, CA

#183107 Mar 11, 2013
Libertarian Voter wrote:
<quoted text> If the Prop was Unconstitutional in the first place it shouldn't have been allowed in and to be Voted on in the first place. That is what the judge is saying. Calm down. It's not like we are saying you have to be one way or another, but we are saying to look at the constitution and vote on things knowing what the constitution says.
That is the problem, we need to check ballot measure before they are put up for a vote.

I could get the signatures of enough brown eyed people to put a measure on the ballot denying blue eyed people the right to vote.

With enough brown eyed people voting it could pass

It would be found unconstitutional ( and rightly so ) and never become law.

That is the problem with things like Prop 8, which protects no one from anything, does not defend anything, does not protect anything, does not make anything better for anyone, the only thing it does is diminish one orientation to promote another. It serves no good public purpose.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#183111 Mar 11, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
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And some parents can be shitty ones, as well as idiots, just like homosexual parents depriving a child of both a father and a mother!
Or worse, very lousy parents that teach intolerance of others orientation.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#183116 Mar 11, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
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Or parents raising plain hearted human beings whose souls are dry from no emotional contact. Ya aint got nothing boy, NOTHING!
There sure is nothing special about ya, boy, NOTHING!
Yes terrible parents with no soul that teach hatred and intolerance, I feel nothing but shame for them, and pity the poor children that have to suffer such horrible parents.
bad

Conley, GA

#183117 Mar 11, 2013
And so the tide of judicial stupidity continues to pound the shores of normalty
Big D

Modesto, CA

#183119 Mar 11, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
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Also parents like yours that dump you leaving you without any love you needed, so you try to find it somewhere else by attacking supposed hatred in us! HAHAHAHA!
HAIL YE DAMAGED GOODS OF A BOY!
Fortunately your children will likely grow up to be better than you are.

My children respect me, and thank me for the environment they were raised in, one that was inclusive of others different than themselves, they are raising their children to be the same, to be loving and open minded people.

Your children will hopefully get past the hateful and intolerant environment they were raised in.

I do feel sorry for them, but have hope for them still
Fragged

Covina, CA

#183122 Mar 11, 2013
Glendora, California once again has it's backside KICKED all over the justice system.

http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/news/ci_22754...

Glendora's city council likes to thumb it's nose at justice
Big D

Modesto, CA

#183123 Mar 11, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
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What good a simple man with nothing special about you offer emotionally to your children? Does ya wife find ya boring and nothing to? Realised over the years how ya cannot just bond cause you got nothing?
You were too right to say you weren't special!
I never claimed there was anything special about me, you are just making that up.

I am bonded very closely with my children and grandchildren, they were raised in loving environments, we taught them tolerance and acceptance of others different than themselves.

Hopefully your children will also grow up and beyond the terrible parenting they receive.

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