Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,163

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Ranchitas

Covina, CA

#181272 Feb 25, 2013
Pay someone else to write your blogs, the ones so far stink.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#181273 Feb 25, 2013
Marram wrote:
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You can keep pushing your hater agenda but the fact is Gay Americans don’t have to care about or support any social injustice (whether real or perceived) in order to deserve marriage rights regardless of any hypocrisy you so proudly point out. You’re superior attitude only exemplifies how non-gays marginalize anyone they perceive to be inferior. Truth is we are organized, smart, funded and powerful and will have Gay Marriage Equality in all fifty states. You and your ilk can continue to prattle on and on about how Gay Americans have to be considered “good enough” to deserve equal rights to no avail. We’ll remain focused on and win the war for Gay Marriage Equality. Besides Gay Americans have been called much worse than selfish and hypocrites, so, if you think your lame insults will change anything you’re sorely mistaken.
Gay Americans don't have to care about any social injustice (perceived or real), but to act indifferently about any such occurrences after asking Straight Americans to care about the Gay Americans shows a distinct "I'm all right, Jack, pull up the ladder" mentality that warrants the question: "Why should we have been asked to care about you, when you are so ready to ignore the same plight in another group receiving the same treatment ?" Your side appears to be very selfish, indeed. "You're" is a contraction of "You Are", often misused by the posters in this room, as is the word "Your", often used in the place that "You're" should be, and vice versa. I state this, not to taunt you for your misuse, but, to call attention to the fact that many make this most simple of mistakes. It is no superior attitude to promote the same fairness for another discriminated- against group, such as yours was, only a few years ago. This is not a hater agenda, only a noticing of the glaring social injustices inflicted upon another often ignored group. Since we are on about "Marriage "Equality", it seems to be only fair. To claim that polygamy is illegal is a weak ploy, since sodomy laws made homosexuality a crime until recently. Now it seems fine to single out who remains outlawed, and who does not, in the name of "Equality" ? Not fair at all. Since we find ourselves at a threshold moment, namely, redefining what is allowed in America, we must accept the changes in other groups, else fall victim to the very narrow minded vision that we have been accused of. Marginalizing polygamists is the same crime that marginalizing gays has been, up until now. Be smart. Be organized. Be fair, though. This isn't about insults, it is about redefining "Marriage", and who is to say that homosexuals are acceptable, but not polygamists ? You ? How marginalizing you now appear, if you cannot reach out a helping hand to another group, with which your side has so much in common. I have posted to you in a non-insulting manner, perhaps for the first time, and may well do so again.
Diez y Siete

Novi, MI

#181274 Feb 25, 2013
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Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#181275 Feb 25, 2013
Marram wrote:
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You are really an ignorant piece of work. Let me spell it out for you one final time. I support equal marriage for Gay Americans who what to marry the ONE person they love. Do you get it you stupid jackass?
And I ask: What gives us the right to restrict the number to "one" ?
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#181276 Feb 25, 2013
Jazybird58 wrote:
<quoted text>Frank why are you so gosh darn mad? Tell me Frank do you always suffer from feelings of persecution and inadequacies in the bed room? Seek help, see a Mental health professional. I mean that in a nice way Frank. No one should suffer from short penis syndrome. You can check into getting a implant, maybe find a woman who does not know what 1 inch looks like. Hey you might convince her its 9. Who knows.
Projecting your own problems onto another isn't a valid cure for your problems. If those solutions worked for you, well, fine. I doubt that he suffers from the same problems that have plagued you.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#181278 Feb 25, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
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Projecting your own problems onto another isn't a valid cure for your problems. If those solutions worked for you, well, fine. I doubt that he suffers from the same problems that have plagued you.
Yeah, it's always talk of small dick with that guy. Makes me wonder too.

Man who talk too big, small. The Old Papasans used to say.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#181279 Feb 25, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
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And I ask: What gives us the right to restrict the number to "one" ?
He's real mad and won't say. Probably sulking today.

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#181280 Feb 25, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
On May 6, 2009, the State of Maine became the fifth U.S. State to codify the legal construct of "same sex marriage." Supporters labeled the passage of the new law as a "civil rights victory," a matter of "fairness and equality" for "all" as well as "equal protection under the law." The new law was titled, "L.D. 1020, An Act To End Discrimination in Civil Marriage and Affirm Religious Freedom." But the Act, itself, very specifically does "discriminate" - against consenting adult polygamists.
On April 22, 2009, up to 4,000 Maine citizens attended the Public Hearing at the Augusta Civic Center. As expected, marriage controllers opposed the law, wanting to continue special rights only for those who choose "one man, one woman." Homosexuals and supporters wanted to further expand the receipt of those special rights to those who choose "same sex marriage" too.
Mark Henkel, speaking as the National Polygamy Advocate and as a Maine citizen, also made a presentation at the Hearing - as "Neither For Nor Against." When he stood up to speak, the entire room immediately hushed, except for the overwhelming clicking sound of numerous media cameras on him. He noted that both homosexuals and marriage controllers re-define marriage. Factually, polygamy has always been included in the definition. Henkel offered the polygamy rights win-win solution to end the government marriage debate, the abolition of all big government marriage control for unrelated consenting adults. When he had finished, many people approached him, expressing their surprise and support for the alternative proposal. Despite the crush of photography, the major Maine media chose only to "sell" L.D. 1020 to persuade their audiences.
Over the subsequent two weeks, the bill was rushed through the Legislature and was immediately signed by Governor Baldacci on May 6th – extremely quickly, indeed.
Previously opposing "gay marriage" in favor of civil unions, the Governor explained, "I have come to believe that this is a question of fairness and of equal protection under the law… Under the Constitution, we are all the same. We are supposed to make sure we are all protected from discrimination, regardless of the differences between us. My responsibility, that I swore an oath to do, is that I'm there for everybody."
And we are all treated the equally when it comes to getting married to more than one person, so it's not an equal rights issue. Should we all be able to marry more than one person? Well, I'm sure there's gotta be a forum about that subject somewhere...if not, why not start one?

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#181281 Feb 25, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
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...
Racial slur reported.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#181282 Feb 25, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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And we are all treated the equally when it comes to getting married to more than one person, so it's not an equal rights issue. Should we all be able to marry more than one person? Well, I'm sure there's gotta be a forum about that subject somewhere...if not, why not start one?
As we are all treated equally when it comes to getting married to one person of the opposite sex as well. Equal is as equal does.
jkhjhjube6trbyey b

Bentonville, AR

#181283 Feb 25, 2013
hope they all suck each-other to death!!!!!!!!!!

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#181284 Feb 25, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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As we are all treated equally when it comes to getting married to one person of the opposite sex as well. Equal is as equal does.
And we were all treated equally when it came to marrying someone of the same race. But since a white person couldn't marry a black person, while a black person could, they weren't treated equally.
A man can marry a woman, but a woman can't. Not equal.
A woman can marry a man, but a man can't. Not equal.
Everybody can only marry one person. Equal.
Should everybody be able to marry more than one person?
Well, I'm sure you're not the first person to come up with the idea, why not see if there is a forum about that subject?

Since: Apr 11

North Hollywood, CA

#181285 Feb 25, 2013
jkhjhjube6trbyeyb wrote:
hope they all suck each-other to death!!!!!!!!!!
What a way to go!!!!!!

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#181286 Feb 25, 2013
Marram wrote:
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You are really an ignorant piece of work. Let me spell it out for you one final time. I support equal marriage for Gay Americans who what to marry the ONE person they love. Do you get it you stupid jackass?
Yeah, we get it- you are a bigot. You don't care about equal right's just your cause.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#181287 Feb 25, 2013
Jazybird58 wrote:
<quoted text>Frank could you explain the ramifications of Poly marriage with regards to our court system, divorce and social security benefits? Same sex marriage in no way affects them, can the same be said of Poly marriage????
So because it might be "difficult", that is a good enough reason to deny someone the equal right to be happy?

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#181288 Feb 25, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Did they let you out finally? Well, keep taking your meds on schedule, or they might have to come get you again, stupid.
Poor Rose, she can't even get people on the internet to take her seriously.
Edgar

Spring, TX

#181289 Feb 25, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
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And I ask: What gives us the right to restrict the number to "one" ?
If nobody else will answer this, then I will:

Our right to limit marriage to one person is backed by the fact that no stigma in our psyche rationally provokes us to want to mate with more than one person. Maybe on a conscious level that may seem like the case sometimes, but it doesn't resonate subconsciously, or at least has not yet been shown to by psychologists.

Which is exactly the opposite case for homosexuality. Scientists, biologists, psychologists - they've all reached the same conclusion regarding this. When it's looked at in an objective, unbiased light, any experienced practician can see the trend: homosexuality is just as genetic as taste buds. The desire to commit bigamy is not.

Gay relationships are not the equivalent of bigamy and shouldn't be equated as such.
Edgar

Spring, TX

#181290 Feb 25, 2013
akpilot wrote:
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Yeah, we get it- you are a bigot. You don't care about equal right's just your cause.
I'm sorry, which side of this argument are you on again? The anti-equality one?

Yea, the pro-equality guy here is quite the "bigot", eh?

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#181291 Feb 25, 2013
Edgar wrote:
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I'm sorry, which side of this argument are you on again? The anti-equality one?
Yea, the pro-equality guy here is quite the "bigot", eh?
"pro-equality?" Hardly, you're just interested in a cause, not really interested in equality, but then again none of you really are.

But hey, you guys never let rational thought get in the way of a good protest. I guess it makes you guys feel like you have a purpose.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#181292 Feb 25, 2013
Edgar wrote:
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If nobody else will answer this, then I will:
Our right to limit marriage to one person is backed by the fact that no stigma in our psyche rationally provokes us to want to mate with more than one person. Maybe on a conscious level that may seem like the case sometimes, but it doesn't resonate subconsciously, or at least has not yet been shown to by psychologists.
Which is exactly the opposite case for homosexuality. Scientists, biologists, psychologists - they've all reached the same conclusion regarding this. When it's looked at in an objective, unbiased light, any experienced practician can see the trend: homosexuality is just as genetic as taste buds. The desire to commit bigamy is not.
Gay relationships are not the equivalent of bigamy and shouldn't be equated as such.
So you are against equal rights for everyone? You are against the right of everyone to live their life the way they choose?

I guess you really aren't all that interested in keeping the government out of your bedroom after all.

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