Protest over UC cuts draws several hu...

Protest over UC cuts draws several hundred at UC Santa Cruz

There are 90 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Sep 25, 2009, titled Protest over UC cuts draws several hundred at UC Santa Cruz. In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

Several hundred students and faculty rallied Thursday with other employees on the first day of classes at UC Santa Cruz in a walkout and strike that a labor historian described as a turning point in growing opposition to the university's administration.

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Sally

Watsonville, CA

#62 Sep 25, 2009
grumpy moved to hawaii wrote:
I hope they close the darn thing it was the worst thing to happen to santa cruz . rich kids hippys they move there go to school and never leave driving the price of housing sky high. and now there having a hard time "poor tings poor tings" fishing and farming that was santa cruz they we able push all that out and now i hope ucsc gets pushed out
Dropping out of high school, and not learning to write was one of the worst things that ever happened to you.

"Rich kid hippys[sic)" are driving up the price of housing? Wow!

My advice: lay off the meth and the Limbaugh.
UC Staff Member

Santa Cruz, CA

#64 Sep 25, 2009
I think that students, staff, faculty and hard working towns people need to stop squabbling with each other over the fact that we're all being hurt in this bad economy. Instead of focusing our anger at each other, which is exactly what the "man" would prefer, why not focus our anger collectively against the decision makers handing out the pay cuts across all industries, and quietly handing out pay raises to themselves and their friends? It's time to rise up and stop taking abuse from the UC Regents, CEOs and what ever. Cutting the pay of hard working people is not right. It's wrong. And as long as Americans continue to take it sitting down, continue to maintain this Protestant pull yourself up by the boot straps mentality, well, then we as workers will continue to be shat upon. We're all in this together: UCSC, Santa Cruz, everyone.
future leaders

Santa Cruz, CA

#65 Sep 25, 2009
Sally wrote: My advice: lay off the meth and the Limbaugh.

my advice...Sally go round your roses!
Please

Los Gatos, CA

#66 Sep 25, 2009
UC Staff Member wrote:
I think that students, staff, faculty and hard working towns people need to stop squabbling with each other over the fact that we're all being hurt in this bad economy. Instead of focusing our anger at each other, which is exactly what the "man" would prefer, why not focus our anger collectively against the decision makers handing out the pay cuts across all industries, and quietly handing out pay raises to themselves and their friends? It's time to rise up and stop taking abuse from the UC Regents, CEOs and what ever. Cutting the pay of hard working people is not right. It's wrong. And as long as Americans continue to take it sitting down, continue to maintain this Protestant pull yourself up by the boot straps mentality, well, then we as workers will continue to be **** upon. We're all in this together: UCSC, Santa Cruz, everyone.
The people who create value and make the money have provided you with the lifestyle you enjoy. If you didn't have your head so far up the a@@ of the Ivory Tower might might understand the situation better. What you don't understand is that the strong pull us all forward.

You want to be a victim, move to freakin' Haiti you nutcase.

Be weak and prosper ...
Santa Cruz resident

Ben Lomond, CA

#67 Sep 25, 2009
Proposition 13 and two unjustified wars are a big cause of this.

I have owned a home in Santa Cruz county since before the earthquake of 1989; I get a wonderful Prop 13 tax benefit. In other words, I'm not being taxed enough - yes, you read me right; Prop 13 is letting me shift the cost of the University onto the backs of students.

Of course, Prop 13 also shifts the tax burden off of corporations who own property for much longer than living breathing people do.

We could fix much of these problems by fixing Proposition 13 - at a start we could remove corporations from its coverage.

And if we were to end our two wars we'd have more money to help.

(And perhaps we ought to bail-out the university rather than Goldman Sachs and Chrysler.)

But with all of that said - I work with the university and see that their administration is filled with useless procedures. I have to moderate the union's complaints by my perception that university is overloaded with too many people occupying useless bureaucratic positions.
Momus

Santa Cruz, CA

#68 Sep 25, 2009
Santa Cruz resident wrote:
Proposition 13 and two unjustified wars are a big cause of this.
I have owned a home in Santa Cruz county since before the earthquake of 1989; I get a wonderful Prop 13 tax benefit. In other words, I'm not being taxed enough - yes, you read me right; Prop 13 is letting me shift the cost of the University onto the backs of students.
Of course, Prop 13 also shifts the tax burden off of corporations who own property for much longer than living breathing people do.
We could fix much of these problems by fixing Proposition 13 - at a start we could remove corporations from its coverage.
And if we were to end our two wars we'd have more money to help.
(And perhaps we ought to bail-out the university rather than Goldman Sachs and Chrysler.)
But with all of that said - I work with the university and see that their administration is filled with useless procedures. I have to moderate the union's complaints by my perception that university is overloaded with too many people occupying useless bureaucratic positions.
Best post yet in this thread. I agree.
Please

Los Gatos, CA

#69 Sep 25, 2009
Santa Cruz resident wrote:
Proposition 13 and two unjustified wars are a big cause of this.
I have owned a home in Santa Cruz county since before the earthquake of 1989; I get a wonderful Prop 13 tax benefit. In other words, I'm not being taxed enough - yes, you read me right; Prop 13 is letting me shift the cost of the University onto the backs of students.
Of course, Prop 13 also shifts the tax burden off of corporations who own property for much longer than living breathing people do.
We could fix much of these problems by fixing Proposition 13 - at a start we could remove corporations from its coverage.
And if we were to end our two wars we'd have more money to help.
(And perhaps we ought to bail-out the university rather than Goldman Sachs and Chrysler.)
But with all of that said - I work with the university and see that their administration is filled with useless procedures. I have to moderate the union's complaints by my perception that university is overloaded with too many people occupying useless bureaucratic positions.
So what's to stop you from giving 10-20% of your take home pay directly to students? Or is this just more happy talk b.s.? What I'm asking is, just how full of crap are you, exactly?
Please please me

Santa Cruz, CA

#70 Sep 25, 2009
Please wrote:
<quoted text>
The people who create value and make the money have provided you with the lifestyle you enjoy. If you didn't have your head so far up the **** of the Ivory Tower might might understand the situation better. What you don't understand is that the strong pull us all forward.
You want to be a victim, move to freakin' Haiti you nutcase.
Be weak and prosper ...
Dear Prophet of Mt Hermon: you'll note that UC Santa Cruz staff member referred to "hard working" people of Santa Cruz and not Mt Hermon.
Your message implies quite a lot: 1.) that UC Staff Member is provided with an enjoyable lifestyle; 2.) that anyone reading your thread knows what you mean by "understand the situation better"; 3.) that UC Staff Member considers herself a victim when in actuality she is arguing for people to stand up collectively for hard working people; and 4.) that moving to Haiti would be a good idea.
Now, questions for you: 1.) do you have an enjoyable lifestyle?; 2.) are you one of those people creating all of the value and making all of the money?; 3.) why aren't you out in the streets protesting if you're so obviously angry?
I think UC Santa Cruz staff member may have been talking to you.
Al Pastor

San Jose, CA

#71 Sep 25, 2009
Look at meeee! I'm on a light post weee!
GoingNowhere

San Francisco, CA

#72 Sep 25, 2009
Al Pastor wrote:
Look at meeee! I'm on a light post weee!
I seriously hope she fell.

That said, I laugh at you crotchety old farts who bitch about UCSC and its student body...who do you think is going to be running your nursing home and helping you change your colostomy bag in 10 years?

Santa Cruz: Too rare to die, too wierd to live.

Since: Apr 08

San Luis Obispo/Santa Cruz

#73 Sep 25, 2009
Wow, what a dumb ***** on that lightpost. Hope she fell and busted her head.
Brother Bri

Alameda, CA

#74 Sep 25, 2009
Mark Yudof must resign...and return all monies he has been paid.
wildman

Brentwood, CA

#75 Sep 25, 2009
The University system has the same problems as the State of California. They both are a little too big for their britches, and lack any fiscal responsibility. Same problems, union idiots, greedy teachers, and students who want a free education. All being lead by the town fools, AKA the Regents. I am all for people who want an education to have access, but not for free. Free would make an education worthless. Pay your dues in life, and you will appreciate it.
future leaders

Santa Cruz, CA

#76 Sep 25, 2009
GoingNowhere wrote:
<quoted text>
I seriously hope she fell.
That said, I laugh at you crotchety old farts who **** about UCSC and its student body...who do you think is going to be running your nursing home and helping you change your colostomy bag in 10 years?
Santa Cruz: Too rare to die, too wierd to live.
You're being presumptuous to think that all these posts are from old farts...who would want these *a$$w!pe$* anywhere near them anyway, particularly in a nursing home...I do agree however, that the education they are getting at UCSC will only qualify them to clean *$h!tbag$*.
Dave

Santa Cruz, CA

#78 Sep 25, 2009
Randy wrote:
Ask yourself how much college costs in highly developed democracies in Europe or Canada. In the U.S. We refuse to invest in our educational future yet we fund prisons endlessly.
The posters who complain about rich kids, brats, socialism, etc., yet can barely spell -let alone reason critically - show why education should be supported as a first priority.
Protesting against the corporate elite is American as apple pie. I'm glad these students are standing up for their right to an affordable education.
agreed, we have it all wrong here ... TRILLIONS given to banks, an overly expensive health care system and needless wars .. what's wrong with us .>?
we wage wars, while our 1st world competitors are investing in education, infrastructure and manufacturing.... now we're broke ... trillions in the red and no way out.
FREE COLTER WHITE

Richmond, CA

#79 Sep 25, 2009
Where's the story about the 150 - 200 people that marched in downtown Santa Cruz today for Colter White?

Colter White is a Cabrillo College student who has overcome immense obstacles in the last couple of years, earning a 4.0 at Cabrillo, heavily volunteered with Cabrillo's honor society and other venues, participated in the community and mentored younger students.

Earlier in his life Colter made some poor decisions that landed him in prison. He has turned his life around 180 degrees through a lot of hard work, every day, to make the world and his life better. He has been accepted to law school in Santa Clara for next fall. Colter's supporters include individuals in both faculty and administration at Cabrillo College, where Colter would be graduating in the spring.

Within the last week someone falsely accused Colter of assault (and then dropped the BS charges), but the contact with law enforcement caused his parole to be violated, so pending a hearing with the parole board he is possibly back in prison for a year.

Forget the whining UCSC babies - people like Colter who work SO hard to improve themselves and make the world a better place should be supported in doing so!

Join the Free Colter White group on Facebook, look for the "Free Colter White" t-shirts and consider writing a letter to the powers that be asking for this man's release. Honestly, he is the type of parolee we as the public wish they ALL were - a genuinely good guy, not just staying out of trouble, but actively making being a positive force within his community.
future leaders

Santa Cruz, CA

#80 Sep 25, 2009
Dave wrote: we wage wars, while our 1st world competitors are investing in education, infrastructure and manufacturing.... now we're broke ... trillions in the red and no way out.

And let's not forget all the energy (fossil fuels) that they are developing to run the manufacturing...but oh no, not us, we're going to run this great country on wind and solar...give us a break and start drilling America!
FUV

Richmond, CA

#81 Sep 25, 2009
CHILDREN PLEASE wrote:
<quoted text>
Did it ever occur to you that these people have invested a tremendous amount of time and money into building their careers so that they might just deserve what they get paid? Or is your comment based completely upon jealousy?
Most are failed, third-rate academics. The current UCSC chancellor is the exception rather than the rule. Most of the faculty have invested more time and money, and get paid much much less.
Corralitos Taxpayer

Watsonville, CA

#82 Sep 25, 2009
Assemblyman Bill Monning, D-Carmel, said UC's budget woes are but a snapshot of a state government in crisis. He repeated calls for an end to the two-thirds majority rule that Democrats say allow Republicans to block raising taxes for education.

"We should be looking for more money for education not cutting it," Monning told demonstrators.

Let's see Bill so far this year you have raised the sales tax, income tax, and car registration tax. Anything else you want from us you freaking pinhead?
pat

Santa Cruz, CA

#83 Sep 25, 2009
Petrushka Moroni wrote:
<quoted text>
26 years ago? Before the neoliberal model came into play? Right at the moment Reagan, then Clinton, Bush I, et al were gutting social spending? You benefitted from that social spending. It's not here any more. So you got yours and today's students get nothing.
its so true. these baby boomers who had heavily subsidized educations paid for by the older generation now discovered conservatism and dont want to do the same because they are "self made" individuals. it is that typical "i dont care, i graduated" attitude.

baby boomers: the worst generation..

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