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'Fox News Sunday' to Host Kentucky Senate Debate

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"Fox News Sunday" is heading to Louisville, Ky. Jack Conway, Kentucky's attorney general and the Democratic candidate for Senate , and Rand Paul, the Republican nominee and son of Representative Ron Paul, Republican of Texas, have agreed to a live debate on "Fox News Sunday" on Oct.3 at 9 a.m. (Eastern time).

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frank

Oakland, CA

#43714 Jul 15, 2012
WakeUp wrote:
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Um....letting people lose their homes and banks take losses on the homes WILL allow the market to bottom out. Using tax payer money to further try and keep the real estate bubble inflated is only prolonging the current stagnant housing market.
We won't reach the bottom, and thus, won't start climbing out of it, till we allow the foreclosures to happen.
How is it that you thoughtless rightwing morons have no problem throwing everyone into the same pot, using one or two examples to callously paint everyone else with the same paint? There are many thousands of families who have made a proper down payment on their house without resorting to questionable subprime schemes, only to find themselves owning property that has devalued by half or more to no fault of their own. Clearly, these families need and deserve a break as they have played by the rules ending up being victimized by a criminal element in the greedy Wall Street banking system!
Jay

Springville, TN

#43715 Jul 15, 2012
frank wrote:
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Michel Massie? Come on now Michael f-ing Massie? He is an absolute right-wing crackpot; even his own people question his sanity as he seems to be without shame or conscience. His world is not based in reality, it’s based in hatred, smear and disgusting rumors, his attacks on Obama are personal and shamelessly includes his family. You have just stooped as low as one possible can posting a rant full of hate knowing full well that none of it even close to the truth and entirely based on one mans hatred toward an other man and his family!
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His world in not based on reality?!!! That's a good one! The man has far more intelligence and inside information than you ever could have, and just because he's black and does not kowtow to the Obama's you have the gall to call him someone full of hate because you couldn't play the race card! Maybe it never occurred to you that his opinion is based on fact, and he has the courage to speak out with regard to those facts. And who are you to say this man is not writing something "even close to the truth?" That's just your opinion and it's not worth the paper it's written on.


Mychal S. Massie is National Chairman of the conservative black think tank, Project 21-The National Leadership Network of Black Conservatives; and a member of its’ parent think tank, the National Center for Public Policy Research. In his official capacity with this free market public policy think tank he has spoken at the U.S. Capitol, CPAC, participated in numerous press conferences on Capitol Hill, the National Press Club and has testified concerning property rights pursuant to the “Endangered Species Act” before the Chairman of the House Committee on Resources. He has been a keynote speaker at colleges and universities nationwide, at Tea Party Rallies, at rallies supporting our troops and conservative presidents; and rally’s supporting conservative causes across the country. He is an unapologetic supporter of our right to own and carry firearms.

Beth

Wagoner, OK

#43716 Jul 15, 2012
frank wrote:
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LOL ... not the most intelligent thing you ever said! Do you at least manage to return your library books on time?
INTELLIGENT, do you even know what that means? Doesn't matter , it's the T R U T H that counts. You are so brainwashed you can't see the forest for the trees. Somehow this man {Obama} has dumbed you libs down farther and Re programed you. Just no other explanation!
Hey

Flatwoods, KY

#43717 Jul 15, 2012
frank wrote:
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How is it that you thoughtless rightwing morons have no problem throwing everyone into the same pot, using one or two examples to callously paint everyone else with the same paint? There are many thousands of families who have made a proper down payment on their house without resorting to questionable subprime schemes, only to find themselves owning property that has devalued by half or more to no fault of their own. Clearly, these families need and deserve a break as they have played by the rules ending up being victimized by a criminal element in the greedy Wall Street banking system!
You do the very same sh!t with every post Frakie..
WakeUp

Murfreesboro, TN

#43718 Jul 15, 2012
frank wrote:
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How is it that you thoughtless rightwing morons have no problem throwing everyone into the same pot, using one or two examples to callously paint everyone else with the same paint? There are many thousands of families who have made a proper down payment on their house without resorting to questionable subprime schemes, only to find themselves owning property that has devalued by half or more to no fault of their own. Clearly, these families need and deserve a break as they have played by the rules ending up being victimized by a criminal element in the greedy Wall Street banking system!
I've played by the rules, bought a smaller house than I could have afforded, been paying my mortgage, picked up extra work and odd jobs to make up for the decline in my regular employment income... Where's my assistance? Where's my tax payer funded relief?

To those who bought at the height of the market and are now under water. They can either hang on to their homes and hope for a rebound (10-20 years from now)and do whatever it takes to make ends meat to do so to get their equity out...or they can sell at a loss and take the hit, declare bankruptcy, and start rebuilding their financial lives. Or perhaps a 3rd option, go to the bank (good luck finding who actually owns your mortgage now a days) and attempt to renegotiate.

Buying a home is generally an investment, like any investment, there are not guarantees. Sorry about your luck, but $hit happens and everyone is having to take their lumps.
frank

Oakland, CA

#43719 Jul 15, 2012
Beth wrote:
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INTELLIGENT, do you even know what that means? Doesn't matter , it's the T R U T H that counts. You are so brainwashed you can't see the forest for the trees. Somehow this man {Obama} has dumbed you libs down farther and Re programed you. Just no other explanation!
What did eight years of GOPer incompetence get us?

* Two unfinished wars.

* A growing recession with 500,000 lost jobs per month.

* Record debt -- when all he had to do is continue the Clinton fiscal policy!

* The wealthy doubling their fortunes.

And the GOPers insist on another four years of the same -- to bless us with more of it?

All Gdub and his fellow GOPers had to do is follow Clintons finance policy and we would have a balanced federal budget now! It'd be great if we could balance the budget but it's just not realistic to even consider balancing the budget right now. What we can do right now, is bring down the debt relative to the economy. The Ryan budget, despite its cuts and aggressive fiscal moves is mostly smoke and mirrors, it does not balance the budget for at least 30 years and is the absolute worst we could do during this severe global recession. http://zfacts.com/
frank

Oakland, CA

#43721 Jul 15, 2012
WakeUp wrote:
<quoted text>
I've played by the rules, bought a smaller house than I could have afforded, been paying my mortgage, picked up extra work and odd jobs to make up for the decline in my regular employment income... Where's my assistance? Where's my tax payer funded relief?
To those who bought at the height of the market and are now under water. They can either hang on to their homes and hope for a rebound (10-20 years from now)and do whatever it takes to make ends meat to do so to get their equity out...or they can sell at a loss and take the hit, declare bankruptcy, and start rebuilding their financial lives. Or perhaps a 3rd option, go to the bank (good luck finding who actually owns your mortgage now a days) and attempt to renegotiate.
Buying a home is generally an investment, like any investment, there are not guarantees. Sorry about your luck, but $hit happens and everyone is having to take their lumps.
A second home is an investment - how many of us can afford that? Nearly 30% of homes bought last year were for investment purposes, and an additional 12% were vacation homes, all of the buyers are within the 10% of wealth owners taking advantage of a depressed real-estate market and or foreclosures.
WakeUp

Murfreesboro, TN

#43722 Jul 15, 2012
frank wrote:
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A second home is an investment - how many of us can afford that? Nearly 30% of homes bought last year were for investment purposes, and an additional 12% were vacation homes, all of the buyers are within the 10% of wealth owners taking advantage of a depressed real-estate market and or foreclosures.
No, any home that you have a mortgage on is an investment. Otherwise, why not just rent? Or why buy the 3 bedroom house instead of the smaller 2 bedroom 1 bath house?

If it's not an investment, why does anyone care when the price of their home goes up or down? With your rational, so what if you're underwater if you can still afford the mortgage...if it's not an investment?

As for the "wealthy" taking advantage of the depressed market, um, you buy when you feel it's a good value for the price. And somebody, somewhere, is thankful that SOMEONE is buying. At least that way either the bank is recouping part of their original loan, or perhaps a family is able to get out enough equity to at least not declare bankruptcy-or be able to move into the more affordable house with some form of down payment, if not a sizable start on their equity.
Brad

Manchester, CT

#43723 Jul 15, 2012
frank wrote:
<quoted text>
A second home is an investment - how many of us can afford that? Nearly 30% of homes bought last year were for investment purposes, and an additional 12% were vacation homes, all of the buyers are within the 10% of wealth owners taking advantage of a depressed real-estate market and or foreclosures.
Now you're whining about people buying foreclosed homes and properties in depressed areas?
At least those houses are staying on the tax rolls and creating revenue for towns and cities.
The wealthy that do that are doing a service for those communities,but,as usual,liberals have to spin it into a negative thing.
WakeUp

Murfreesboro, TN

#43724 Jul 15, 2012
You're just a one line parrot aren't you? Get's kinda old
frank wrote:
<quoted text>
What did eight years of GOPer incompetence get us?
* Two unfinished wars.
Obama followed Bush's plan to get us out of Iraq...as well as continuing or expanding upon Bush's other Defense policies.
Of course, then there's Obama's "wars"-er, multiple "kinetic military actions", as well as his continuing foreign policy messes with Iran, Syria etc.
frank wrote:
<quoted text>
* A growing recession with 500,000 lost jobs per month.
Unemployment under Bush was around 5% till the financial melt down. Funny, Democrats controlled Congress after the 2006 elections
frank wrote:
<quoted text>
* Record debt -- when all he had to do is continue the Clinton fiscal policy!
Hey, if we had kept Clinton's spending, we'd be doing great. But Clinton NEVER had a budget surplus, and the projections of revenue were all based upon the continuation of the dot.com bubble.
frank wrote:
<quoted text>
* The wealthy doubling their fortunes.
The "99%" under Bush grew their income by 6.8% on average, under Obama, it's 0.2% http://elsa.berkeley.edu/~saez/saez-UStopinco...

Under Bush, the 1% captured a disproportionate share of the income gains from the Bush boom of 2002-2007. They got 65 cents of every dollar created in that boom, up 20 cents from when Clinton was President. Under Obama, the 1% got 93 cents of every dollar created in that boom. That’s MORE than under Bush, up 28 cents.
frank wrote:
<quoted text>
And the GOPers insist on another four years of the same -- to bless us with more of it?
All Gdub and his fellow GOPers had to do is follow Clintons finance policy and we would have a balanced federal budget now!
Considering that the "budget surplus" had already turned negative under Clinton....riiiiiiight.
frank wrote:
<quoted text>
It'd be great if we could balance the budget but it's just not realistic to even consider balancing the budget right now.
Since we're running Trillion dollar plus deficits...and we can't seem to cut a few billion dollars from our spending, or even HALT the growth of spending...I'd say the chances of balancing the budget are slim.
Add in, you could take 100% of the top "1%" or even the top 30% of tax payers and we still wouldn't balance our budget and you realize how hopeless it is.
frank wrote:
<quoted text>
What we can do right now, is bring down the debt relative to the economy. The Ryan budget, despite its cuts and aggressive fiscal moves is mostly smoke and mirrors, it does not balance the budget for at least 30 years and is the absolute worst we could do during this severe global recession. http://zfacts.com/
Ryan's plan institutes cuts at a slow enough pace that everyone has time to adjust, that way all those farcical commercials of Ryan throwing grandma off the cliff really won't come true.

How well has the continued spending of countries like Greece, Italy and Spain done for them? They've promised spending cuts, but their spending continues to INCREASE.
Jay

Springville, TN

#43725 Jul 15, 2012
whitehair wrote:
A lot of truth in that opinion,though.
**********

But since frank can't play the race card with these folks, he calls it all hate speech. Because he doesn't like Conservatives, and probably doesn't like these folks either ---- among a host of black people who stepped outside the BS and became intelligent, educated, well-know and upper class.

Dr. Alan Keyes

Condi Rice

Michael Steele

Herman Cain

Clarence Thomas

Colin Powell

Alveda King

And even Martin Luther King, Sr. and according to family - even Jr.

Among a host of others.
frank

Oakland, CA

#43726 Jul 15, 2012
WakeUp wrote:
You're just a one line parrot aren't you? Get's kinda old
<quoted text>
Obama followed Bush's plan to get us out of Iraq...as well as continuing or expanding upon Bush's other Defense policies.
Of course, then there's Obama's "wars"-er, multiple "kinetic military actions", as well as his continuing foreign policy messes with Iran, Syria etc.
<quoted text>
Unemployment under Bush was around 5% till the financial melt down. Funny, Democrats controlled Congress after the 2006 elections
<quoted text>
Hey, if we had kept Clinton's spending, we'd be doing great. But Clinton NEVER had a budget surplus, and the projections of revenue were all based upon the continuation of the dot.com bubble.
<quoted text>
The "99%" under Bush grew their income by 6.8% on average, under Obama, it's 0.2% http://elsa.berkeley.edu/~saez/saez-UStopinco...
Under Bush, the 1% captured a disproportionate share of the income gains from the Bush boom of 2002-2007. They got 65 cents of every dollar created in that boom, up 20 cents from when Clinton was President. Under Obama, the 1% got 93 cents of every dollar created in that boom. That’s MORE than under Bush, up 28 cents.
<quoted text>
Considering that the "budget surplus" had already turned negative under Clinton....riiiiiiight.
<quoted text>
Since we're running Trillion dollar plus deficits...and we can't seem to cut a few billion dollars from our spending, or even HALT the growth of spending...I'd say the chances of balancing the budget are slim.
Add in, you could take 100% of the top "1%" or even the top 30% of tax payers and we still wouldn't balance our budget and you realize how hopeless it is.
<quoted text>
Ryan's plan institutes cuts at a slow enough pace that everyone has time to adjust, that way all those farcical commercials of Ryan throwing grandma off the cliff really won't come true.
How well has the continued spending of countries like Greece, Italy and Spain done for them? They've promised spending cuts, but their spending continues to INCREASE.
And I got a bridge to sell you :-)
whitehair

Fort Thomas, KY

#43727 Jul 15, 2012
frank wrote:
<quoted text>
How is it that you thoughtless rightwing morons have no problem throwing everyone into the same pot, using one or two examples to callously paint everyone else with the same paint? There are many thousands of families who have made a proper down payment on their house without resorting to questionable subprime schemes, only to find themselves owning property that has devalued by half or more to no fault of their own. Clearly, these families need and deserve a break as they have played by the rules ending up being victimized by a criminal element in the greedy Wall Street banking system!
Frank--the problem with this type of situation is that every one of the folks that own their home has lost about 15% of the value of that home right now in my area.Some other areas are worse off.Calif.and Florida for example.
While not just the ones that have a high mortgage,but the ones that have the home paid for,and all between,are faced with that loss.Many, older, that had counted on the home or property to be a retirement fund,or a retirement home fund,now find they have a shortage.So,every home,or,property owner has sustained some loss.Would taxpayers like to return that group to the previous value?It just does not work that way.Every investment has it`s risk.That is the nature of any investment.Only gov`t bonds and bank FDIC CD`s have the least risk.Even they are precarious today,with the gov`t so much in debt.Not to mean to be hard headed about this,but really there seems no way out but for some to lose what they put into this risk.
Jay

Springville, TN

#43728 Jul 15, 2012
frank wrote:
<quoted text>
And I got a bridge to sell you :-)
~~~~~~

And I've got a fact to sell you:

People claim that Clinton was able to balance the budget. Did anyone consider what Bush inherited from Clinton?

From the Senate Voting Committee, 90% of those cuts were military....slashed from the federal payroll.

$14 billion dollar budget cuts that Bush inherited from Clinton.

That left our military shorthanded just before we were attacked - 9 months later 911!
frank

Oakland, CA

#43729 Jul 15, 2012
Jay wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~~~~
And I've got a fact to sell you:
People claim that Clinton was able to balance the budget. Did anyone consider what Bush inherited from Clinton?
From the Senate Voting Committee, 90% of those cuts were military....slashed from the federal payroll.
$14 billion dollar budget cuts that Bush inherited from Clinton.
That left our military shorthanded just before we were attacked - 9 months later 911!
A fact?- you wouldn't know a fact if fell your empty head ...
frank

Oakland, CA

#43730 Jul 15, 2012
whitehair wrote:
<quoted text>
Frank--the problem with this type of situation is that every one of the folks that own their home has lost about 15% of the value of that home right now in my area.Some other areas are worse off.Calif.and Florida for example.
While not just the ones that have a high mortgage,but the ones that have the home paid for,and all between,are faced with that loss.Many, older, that had counted on the home or property to be a retirement fund,or a retirement home fund,now find they have a shortage.So,every home,or,property owner has sustained some loss.Would taxpayers like to return that group to the previous value?It just does not work that way.Every investment has it`s risk.That is the nature of any investment.Only gov`t bonds and bank FDIC CD`s have the least risk.Even they are precarious today,with the gov`t so much in debt.Not to mean to be hard headed about this,but really there seems no way out but for some to lose what they put into this risk.
Of course Forrest Gump, what you’re describing happens all the time, but these are extraordinary times and good people lost money because of illegal activities by bankers, your simple minded explanation is just that - simple minded! You want to give Romney and people like him, who have more friggen money than Gawd, a tax break but Joe Sixpack from down the street he can f**k off, he can take his wife and his kids and move in under a freeway overpass. What kind of American are you?
Jay

Springville, TN

#43731 Jul 15, 2012
frank wrote:
<quoted text>
A fact?- you wouldn't know a fact if fell your empty head ...
LMAO.....you're such a joke!!!
WakeUp

Murfreesboro, TN

#43732 Jul 15, 2012
frank wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course Forrest Gump, what you’re describing happens all the time, but these are extraordinary times and good people lost money because of illegal activities by bankers, your simple minded explanation is just that - simple minded! You want to give Romney and people like him, who have more friggen money than Gawd, a tax break but Joe Sixpack from down the street he can f**k off, he can take his wife and his kids and move in under a freeway overpass. What kind of American are you?
And how many of those bankers have been prosecuted and jailed? Heck, how many of them have even been charged?

How many of them are big contributors and bundlers for Obama and the Democratic party? How many of them use the "revolving door" between their big banking business and working in the administration?

Not to mention, banks were forced by the government to make questionable loans...or face suits of discrimination. But, the banks realized, that the government run fannie/freddie would buy up every questionable loan the bankers made...it was a "heads I win, tales you lose" kind of deal. The bankers and the government bureaucrats and politicians are all just as corrupt... which is why nothing will be done about it.

We never should have given the bailouts to the banks. They would have gone bankrupt, the viable assets purchased by banks that had been better run. Depositors would have had their money from the FDIC, and homeowners would have either renegotiated their loan or sell and start over.

The real solutions in the U.S. are permitting acutely (short term) painful but necessary defaults, bankruptcies, and foreclosures to occur as quickly as possible to reset economies as quickly as possible.
Simpleminds

Rochester, KY

#43733 Jul 15, 2012
Beth wrote:
<quoted text>
INTELLIGENT, do you even know what that means? Doesn't matter , it's the T R U T H that counts. You are so brainwashed you can't see the forest for the trees. Somehow this man {Obama} has dumbed you libs down farther and Re programed you. Just no other explanation!
I think it is your side that is Glen Beck, Rush, and FauxNews brainwashed. All the millionaires and billionaires keep telling you people just give them a little more tax break and it will all be fine. The Bush Tax Cuts started in 2001 and 2003. How long will it take you Repubs to realize they are lying. Your own Presidential Candidate has money hidden that is NOW known of in Swiss, Cayman Island and Bermuda Banks. Talk about Brainwashed!!!!!!
Jay

Springville, TN

#43734 Jul 15, 2012
frank wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course Forrest Gump, what you’re describing happens all the time, but these are extraordinary times and good people lost money because of illegal activities by bankers, your simple minded explanation is just that - simple minded! You want to give Romney and people like him, who have more friggen money than Gawd, a tax break but Joe Sixpack from down the street he can f**k off, he can take his wife and his kids and move in under a freeway overpass. What kind of American are you?
^^^^^^^^

If you overtax the wealthy corporate, business and factory owners, they will just lay you off and move to Mexico or China or India.....

Can you call for assistance today on your electronics, and even get an American voice. Push one for Spanish, push two for English. Why are they doing this? You know why. These people will work for $2 an hour.......like that wonderful Hughes Network, "where you can see the southern sky you can have fast internet," BS! Their tech help is in India. You might get an American voice while you punch in the numbers but after that you get someone you can hardly understand.

It's not just the bankers, it's the whole damn government ripping off Joe Sixpack and the rest of us.......and you know it, but refuse to admit it.

As for what kind of an American *whitehair* is. A great American who served his country. Did you?

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