Bella Vista POA.
Shorty

Rogers, AR

#209 Mar 24, 2014
Charles wrote:
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I just found this site and am shocked of course! We have saved for many years to move to BV and we are certainly not "rich folk's". The Realtor's who I have consulted (which have been several) have all stated the reason's there are so many vacant homes is that the elder home owners are, dying off, moving somewhere closer for medical help, and financial issues i.e. foreclosure.
Now it appears that I have been deceived? A hundred thousand dollars to get away from (gangs, crime, section 8 and welfare participants who destroy neighborhoods) seemed to be worth the cost. However we do not need the stress of all these issues that are going on with the POA! We cannot jump out of the frying pan into the proverbial fire.
What are all the cost other than the $24 a month in owning a home in BV?
Bella Vista has two forms of governance. First, you've got the Bella Vista Village Property Owners Association, a Cooper community (POA) that started in 1965 that at the time included all municipal functions.

The other, in 2006, Bella Vista became an incorporated city through a ballot initiative.

Bella Vista is now a city, and no longer a village, although still advertised as a village by the POA.

Besides POA monthly assessments to pay, you have, of course, city taxes too.

As said, two forms of goverance, not one, and the POA, a corporation, basically operates secretively since it is not required by law to operate in an open like manner. The POA board has the power to raise their own bar above the law and govern in an open like manner, but it simply refuses to since the POA is not required by law to govern openly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bella_Vista,_Ark...
PBJ

Springdale, AR

#210 Mar 24, 2014
Putting it in a short and concise statement: Keep looking and cross Bella Vista off your short list.
Oops

Euless, TX

#211 Mar 24, 2014
Yes
Oops

Bentonville, AR

#212 Mar 24, 2014
Test2
NGAP

Rogers, AR

#213 Apr 17, 2014
The question is not about what will happen in the future of Bella Vista, but when it will happen. The 1st thing that needs to happen is to dissolve the POA! The sooner, the better!
N5275qs

Rogers, AR

#214 Apr 17, 2014
NGAP wrote:
The question is not about what will happen in the future of Bella Vista, but when it will happen. The 1st thing that needs to happen is to dissolve the POA! The sooner, the better!
Amen!
What can we do to start the process? And, considering the local government will, if we are successful, determine there is tax revenue to be gained, how to we protect against further local taxation?
In my opinion we should sell off all the amenities to those wishing to run them as businesses. Good grief, we pay too much to entitlements as it is federally, why fund our own versions of the failures we see nationally.
Greg

Rogers, AR

#215 Apr 17, 2014
The POA, which operated the village until we "citified," has evolved from a small, semi-democratic -- though frequently contentious -- neighborhood association into a powerful, punitive, mismanaged and bloated corporate entity.

A revolving door of board members, like a pack of drunken hedge fund managers, have for years dropped a fortune on consultants, marketing and advertising, attorneys and computers, high salaries for managers and low wages for the hardest workers, all while the infrastructure crumbles.

The rules and regulations have increased to drive away potential business, builders and buyers. Punitive attitudes and penalties on everything from a boat parked in your driveway to your garage sale sign have irritated many a Bella Vistan and have contributed toward a less than positive view of us to our neighboring communities.
Angler11

Bella Vista, AR

#217 May 23, 2014
I knew the rules when I moved in. Did you, who are complaining, read the rules and by laws? There are many other communities you can live in without POA dues. Move there and be happy, happy, happy.
GO AWAY Bella Vista POA

Rogers, AR

#218 May 23, 2014
Angler11 wrote:
I knew the rules when I moved in. Did you, who are complaining, read the rules and by laws? There are many other communities you can live in without POA dues. Move there and be happy, happy, happy.
I know the rules. I follow the rules. I pay my city taxes and I pay my POA monthly assessments. I have the right to live and enjoy Bella Vista, Arkansas, no different than anyone else who has the same right to reside living within any city limits of the United States of America.

In celebration of Memorial Day 2014, I would like to express my sincere gratitude for the U.S. men and women who have made the ultimate sacrifice while standing up to tyrannical governments and tyrannical people like you, of which through their sacrifices, still afford me the opportunity and choice, same as others, to vote against a POA assessment increase and to reside in a city of my choosing.

I have absolutely no problem supporting future POA assessment increases, that is, if and when, the Bella Vista POA decides to change it's ways for the better...

If not, then I, and others, will exercise our rights and freedoms to our desired outcome.
Cassius

Rogers, AR

#219 May 27, 2014
right wrote:
MOVE if you don't like it..........
That's exactly what we are going to do. Let some other sucker pay for your golf fees!
GO AWAY Bella Vista POA

Rogers, AR

#220 May 30, 2014
HERE YE HERE YE:

The May 20, 2014 Bella Vista POA election results were announced and the POA members voted against or rejected the monthly assessment increase.

Hip Hip Hooray Go Away Bella Vista POA !

The official state motto for Arkansas is "Regnat Populous" (latin). Translation: "The People Rule"

What does this mean? This means that the voting property owners (people) rule Bella Vista, Arkansas, and not the Bella Vista POA as in "Corporation".

SAY IT ONE, SAY IT ALL:

Hip Hip Hooray Go Away Bella Vista POA !
Jim

Rogers, AR

#221 Jun 6, 2014
Now the smoke has cleared from the recent Bella Vista Properties Association assessment increase election, it is clear that the Arkansas state motto of regnant populous (Latin for "the people rule") won out once again. The people won and the company store lost.
Shirley

White Hall, AR

#222 Jun 6, 2014
My dh and I just purchased a home in BV. We have been vacationing here for a decade. The resort aspect was something we enjoyed. We knew about the fees when we purchased our retirement home and are okay with them. We even voted for the increase. We believe the amenities increase the value of the community
Charles

Rogers, AR

#223 Jun 7, 2014
We have lived in Bella Vista, Arkansas for over a decade. We voted against the assessment increase.

We are not okay with the POA's secrecy so we used our discretion when voting to possibly give more of our discretionary income to the POA.

We are not entitled to the POA's secrets so the POA is not entitled to more of what is in my wallet.

If the POA wants more of my money than I should be privileged to all information on who and where this all this money is going.
Greg

Rogers, AR

#224 Jul 18, 2014
Greg wrote:
The POA, which operated the village until we "citified," has evolved from a small, semi-democratic -- though frequently contentious -- neighborhood association into a powerful, punitive, mismanaged and bloated corporate entity.
A revolving door of board members, like a pack of drunken hedge fund managers, have for years dropped a fortune on consultants, marketing and advertising, attorneys and computers, high salaries for managers and low wages for the hardest workers, all while the infrastructure crumbles.
The rules and regulations have increased to drive away potential business, builders and buyers. Punitive attitudes and penalties on everything from a boat parked in your driveway to your garage sale sign have irritated many a Bella Vistan and have contributed toward a less than positive view of us to our neighboring communities.
What part of NO does the Bella Vista POA not understand?

You see, here we go again, like watching the rerun of a very bad movie--

In a 5-4 vote on Thursday, July 17, 2004, the Property Owners Association's Board of Directors approved a plan that will request an additional $6 a month from members with improved property and an additional $2 a month for members with unimproved property.

Members should expect to receive their second ballot in the mail next month, August 2014.

Remember, do as you did before with your May 2014 POA ballot:

In August 2014:

VOTE AGAINST THE POA ASSESSMENT INCREASE--- FOR THE SECOND TIME THIS YEAR!
Hamilton

Fayetteville, AR

#225 Jul 24, 2014
I just had a nice police officer from BV show up to my home and give me 30 minutes to move my camper from my yard. I received the dreaded POA letter over a month ago and moved my camper in compliance that had been in my side yard for two weeks while I made repairs. Last weekend I went camping and brought it home for a couple of days to clean it up. Just down the street, a neighbor has had a trashy boat sitting in his yard for over a year, but I try to have my newer camper in my yard for a couple of days and the fascist, lying code enforcement officer sends the police to my house. I wonder if it has anything to do with my "Go Away, POA" sign ???? My yard is well-kept and landscaped and unlike many residents of Bella Vista, I don't have a carport full of junk and trashy yard art. There have to be changes made to this POA. I understand that covenants are in place to help keep things nice, but that has to be balanced with the rights of property owners. If I want to bring ny camper home for 48 hours to clean it, I should be allowed.
realist

Bella Vista, AR

#226 Jul 30, 2014
Big Sarge wrote:
I live here in BV and pay dues, even though I seldom use the amenities (and the ones I do use are unrestricted such as the walking trails) I still pay dues. I knew the rules and requirements before purchasing my home, so it's pointless to complain.
My biggest complaint is the senseless rules and restrictions we must adhere to for the "privledge" of Bella Vista living. We must register and pay a fee if we own a dog, and if we want to improve our home's exterior we have to apply for building permits just to lay a small walk-way or build a shed in the backyard. We even have to get POA approval on the color we choose to paint our homes. Now since the housing market crashed alot of homes have been abandoned, and I see alot more dumping on empty cul-de-sacs.
Chong, if potheads are the biggest threat to Vistians we should consider ourselves lucky!
Live in any city or any civilized area of the USA and you have rules and laws to live by including permits for pets and building

Since: Jul 13

Bentonville, AR

#227 Jul 31, 2014
Hamilton wrote:
I just had a nice police officer from BV show up to my home and give me 30 minutes to move my camper from my yard. I received the dreaded POA letter over a month ago and moved my camper in compliance that had been in my side yard for two weeks while I made repairs. Last weekend I went camping and brought it home for a couple of days to clean it up. Just down the street, a neighbor has had a trashy boat sitting in his yard for over a year, but I try to have my newer camper in my yard for a couple of days and the fascist, lying code enforcement officer sends the police to my house. I wonder if it has anything to do with my "Go Away, POA" sign ???? My yard is well-kept and landscaped and unlike many residents of Bella Vista, I don't have a carport full of junk and trashy yard art. There have to be changes made to this POA. I understand that covenants are in place to help keep things nice, but that has to be balanced with the rights of property owners. If I want to bring ny camper home for 48 hours to clean it, I should be allowed.
Join the cause https://www.facebook.com/GoAwayPoa...

“Retired in BV & lovin' it! ”

Since: Aug 14

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#228 Aug 7, 2014
We moved here from Texas 2 yrs. ago to retirement bliss. Had enough of the big city traffic, crime, poor air quality days,  etc.. Found here what we think is heaven on earth compared to what we left. Was looking specifically for a RETIREMENT COMMUNITY and was prepared for HOA/POA dues of some sort. These seem fair & reasonable to me. We liked it so much so that we 'recruited' my brother & wife to join us, and they moved in last year. We both share the same vision in terms of lifestyle - we want a QUIET and seniors-oriented community. We have since come to learn that this community - originally designed & marketed as a RETIREMENT COMMUNITY - is evolving away from that original design charter. And the change is being fostered, funded, and marketed by the POA leadership (and probably encouraged by Cooper as well) as a 'family community'. We now feel foolish for 'drinking the marketing koolaid', and betrayed by the community leaders who have lost/forgotten the originally-communicated invitation to the seniors marketplace.
This area is really not the best fit for families with small children (my own opinion here). Few local schools which require buying or parent support, traffic congestion for workers going to town; most all youth-oriented entertainment is located back in town; most of the kids' friends with which they hang out are back in town; forcing the community to adjust to the school shortage will result in new schools and higher taxes to fund them; and the noise factor will definitely be a concern. More young kids running & screaming in the neighborhoods, coupled with more young teen drivers on these narrow & twisting roads, will drive all remaining peace-in-the-valley - along with many angry & disillusioned seniors - out of town.
Message to Cooper & the POA - don't abandon the original vision of a 1st class retirement community. It's the geezer crowd who appreciates, uses, and will be more likely to financially support that dream.
Linda

United States

#229 Aug 7, 2014
I am just curious- since this was five years ago- was anything ever done about the water system!!! Or the poa??
Bob wrote:
This is a rip off... its money that we fork out for nothing... i dont play golf,dont have a boat so its no use to me and a lot of outher people too... Looking forward to the day the POA is shut down.

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