The reality of alcohol sales in Marshall County

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einstein

Louisville, KY

#1 Jul 11, 2012
Face it people, this is Marshall County. Unless you like having nothing to do, this isn't exactly an ideal place to relocate. Oh sure, it's safe (and white, and protestant). But while that may sound like heaven for some of us who've been here all our life, it's boring to the rest of the developed world. Try as we may, we don't have much to offer here, and never will. That's true for just about any small town.

But still, our one and ONLY beacon of light to the modern world is Kentucky Lake, and tourists like to boat, tan, drink beer, and then leave. It's so fundamental that it bears repeating:

THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO WANT TO LIVE HERE ARE ALREADY LIVING HERE.

I say that for two reasons:

1) To rebut the "Yes" side's argument that alcohol sales will mean dollar signs, a la economic development. Nonsense. It'll mean tax dollars, so in a sense that is "economic" - but I'm not holding my breath for the impending wave of prosperity that is being promised. You need patrons to have a successful business, lots of patrons. And for better or worse, lots of patrons is a commodity we just don't have -- especially on the weekends when half the county is in Paducah.

2) To rebut the "No" side's argument that alcohol sales will mean a gradual decline of our community's "pristine" moral fabric, a la drunks, prostitutes, and crackheads moving in. This presumes that people (read: them damn Yankees) will migrate from either their own small town or from an urban, metropolitan area to the mediocrity we call home. Do you realize how absurd that is? Generally speaking, people move from one town to the next for jobs. And friends, the outcome of this vote won't have a material effect on the available jobs.

So, what is the reality if not an economic boon or moral recession?

A beer aisle.

On July 17th, stop pretending that you're God (you're not) or that you know for certain how God wants you to vote (you don't), and just cast your vote for or against a beer aisle at Wal-Mart.
Matt C.

United States

#2 Jul 11, 2012
einstein wrote:
Face it people, this is Marshall County. Unless you like having nothing to do, this isn't exactly an ideal place to relocate. Oh sure, it's safe (and white, and protestant). But while that may sound like heaven for some of us who've been here all our life, it's boring to the rest of the developed world. Try as we may, we don't have much to offer here, and never will. That's true for just about any small town.

But still, our one and ONLY beacon of light to the modern world is Kentucky Lake, and tourists like to boat, tan, drink beer, and then leave. It's so fundamental that it bears repeating:

THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO WANT TO LIVE HERE ARE ALREADY LIVING HERE.

I say that for two reasons:

1) To rebut the "Yes" side's argument that alcohol sales will mean dollar signs, a la economic development. Nonsense. It'll mean tax dollars, so in a sense that is "economic" - but I'm not holding my breath for the impending wave of prosperity that is being promised. You need patrons to have a successful business, lots of patrons. And for better or worse, lots of patrons is a commodity we just don't have -- especially on the weekends when half the county is in Paducah.

2) To rebut the "No" side's argument that alcohol sales will mean a gradual decline of our community's "pristine" moral fabric, a la drunks, prostitutes, and crackheads moving in. This presumes that people (read: them damn Yankees) will migrate from either their own small town or from an urban, metropolitan area to the mediocrity we call home. Do you realize how absurd that is? Generally speaking, people move from one town to the next for jobs. And friends, the outcome of this vote won't have a material effect on the available jobs.

So, what is the reality if not an economic boon or moral recession?

A beer aisle.

On July 17th, stop pretending that you're God (you're not) or that you know for certain how God wants you to vote (you don't), and just cast your vote for or against a beer aisle at Wal-Mart.
Pretty well stated.... I'll vote 4 the beer aisle.
Just the facts

United States

#3 Jul 11, 2012
einstein wrote:
Face it people, this is Marshall County. Unless you like having nothing to do, this isn't exactly an ideal place to relocate. Oh sure, it's safe (and white, and protestant). But while that may sound like heaven for some of us who've been here all our life, it's boring to the rest of the developed world. Try as we may, we don't have much to offer here, and never will. That's true for just about any small town.
But still, our one and ONLY beacon of light to the modern world is Kentucky Lake, and tourists like to boat, tan, drink beer, and then leave. It's so fundamental that it bears repeating:
THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO WANT TO LIVE HERE ARE ALREADY LIVING HERE.
I say that for two reasons:
1) To rebut the "Yes" side's argument that alcohol sales will mean dollar signs, a la economic development. Nonsense. It'll mean tax dollars, so in a sense that is "economic" - but I'm not holding my breath for the impending wave of prosperity that is being promised. You need patrons to have a successful business, lots of patrons. And for better or worse, lots of patrons is a commodity we just don't have -- especially on the weekends when half the county is in Paducah.
2) To rebut the "No" side's argument that alcohol sales will mean a gradual decline of our community's "pristine" moral fabric, a la drunks, prostitutes, and crackheads moving in. This presumes that people (read: them damn Yankees) will migrate from either their own small town or from an urban, metropolitan area to the mediocrity we call home. Do you realize how absurd that is? Generally speaking, people move from one town to the next for jobs. And friends, the outcome of this vote won't have a material effect on the available jobs.
So, what is the reality if not an economic boon or moral recession?
A beer aisle.
On July 17th, stop pretending that you're God (you're not) or that you know for certain how God wants you to vote (you don't), and just cast your vote for or against a beer aisle at Wal-Mart.
Well said... However, package stores will only create a few jobs (how many stores will be allowed if it does pass... 4 maybe 5)and people will not move here just because there is a liquor store.

Liquor sales will increase local tax revenue, but the only ones who will make money are the owners. Liquor stores will keep people from driving out of town to buy, but they will not create many jobs.

So, what are the odds that it will pass?
odds are

Murray, KY

#4 Jul 11, 2012
I'm saying 35% yes, 65% no.

Maybe next time, folks.
Just the facts

United States

#5 Jul 11, 2012
odds are wrote:
I'm saying 35% yes, 65% no.
Maybe next time, folks.
Okay... but I think it will be much, much closer... more like 52% no and 48% yes.

I think there is a better chance that it will fail in Marshall Co., than in Murray.

Murray may pass it, but it won't be a landslide.

But, if it does pass in Marshall Co. it will be by a 100 votes or less.
know it all

Murray, KY

#6 Jul 11, 2012
I feel sorry for the ones lving in marshal co seems a waste of a life.Life to short to waste in a nothing of a town,I am happy I got out and luv living here in murray ky
marshall law

Trenton, TN

#7 Jul 11, 2012
einstein wrote:
Face it people, this is Marshall County. Unless you like having nothing to do, this isn't exactly an ideal place to relocate. Oh sure, it's safe (and white, and protestant). But while that may sound like heaven for some of us who've been here all our life, it's boring to the rest of the developed world. Try as we may, we don't have much to offer here, and never will. That's true for just about any small town.

But still, our one and ONLY beacon of light to the modern world is Kentucky Lake, and tourists like to boat, tan, drink beer, and then leave. It's so fundamental that it bears repeating:

THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO WANT TO LIVE HERE ARE ALREADY LIVING HERE.

I say that for two reasons:

1) To rebut the "Yes" side's argument that alcohol sales will mean dollar signs, a la economic development. Nonsense. It'll mean tax dollars, so in a sense that is "economic" - but I'm not holding my breath for the impending wave of prosperity that is being promised. You need patrons to have a successful business, lots of patrons. And for better or worse, lots of patrons is a commodity we just don't have -- especially on the weekends when half the county is in Paducah.

2) To rebut the "No" side's argument that alcohol sales will mean a gradual decline of our community's "pristine" moral fabric, a la drunks, prostitutes, and crackheads moving in. This presumes that people (read: them damn Yankees) will migrate from either their own small town or from an urban, metropolitan area to the mediocrity we call home. Do you realize how absurd that is? Generally speaking, people move from one town to the next for jobs. And friends, the outcome of this vote won't have a material effect on the available jobs.

So, what is the reality if not an economic boon or moral recession?

A beer aisle.

On July 17th, stop pretending that you're God (you're not) or that you know for certain how God wants you to vote (you don't), and just cast your vote for or against a beer aisle at Wal-Mart.
It would take a while for the income to start flowing from it. Best to start now then wait til no one is even here anymore that isn't prude
marshall law

Trenton, TN

#8 Jul 11, 2012
Just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>Well said... However, package stores will only create a few jobs (how many stores will be allowed if it does pass... 4 maybe 5)and people will not move here just because there is a liquor store.

Liquor sales will increase local tax revenue, but the only ones who will make money are the owners. Liquor stores will keep people from driving out of town to buy, but they will not create many jobs.

So, what are the odds that it will pass?
Less drunks driving back to here dumbass
Satisfied

Utica, KY

#9 Jul 11, 2012
odds are wrote:
I'm saying 35% yes, 65% no.
Maybe next time, folks.
I'm praying that you are right!!!
Satisfied

Utica, KY

#10 Jul 11, 2012
odds are wrote:
I'm saying 35% yes, 65% no.
Maybe next time, folks.
I'm praying that you are right....If people think alcohol will bring in business. Fulton Co. has been wet for years yet they have the highest rate of unemployment in the state.
Rob

AOL

#11 Jul 11, 2012
einstein wrote:
Face it people, this is Marshall County. Unless you like having nothing to do, this isn't exactly an ideal place to relocate. Oh sure, it's safe (and white, and protestant). But while that may sound like heaven for some of us who've been here all our life, it's boring to the rest of the developed world. Try as we may, we don't have much to offer here, and never will. That's true for just about any small town.
But still, our one and ONLY beacon of light to the modern world is Kentucky Lake, and tourists like to boat, tan, drink beer, and then leave. It's so fundamental that it bears repeating:
THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO WANT TO LIVE HERE ARE ALREADY LIVING HERE.
I say that for two reasons:
1) To rebut the "Yes" side's argument that alcohol sales will mean dollar signs, a la economic development. Nonsense. It'll mean tax dollars, so in a sense that is "economic" - but I'm not holding my breath for the impending wave of prosperity that is being promised. You need patrons to have a successful business, lots of patrons. And for better or worse, lots of patrons is a commodity we just don't have -- especially on the weekends when half the county is in Paducah.
2) To rebut the "No" side's argument that alcohol sales will mean a gradual decline of our community's "pristine" moral fabric, a la drunks, prostitutes, and crackheads moving in. This presumes that people (read: them damn Yankees) will migrate from either their own small town or from an urban, metropolitan area to the mediocrity we call home. Do you realize how absurd that is? Generally speaking, people move from one town to the next for jobs. And friends, the outcome of this vote won't have a material effect on the available jobs.
So, what is the reality if not an economic boon or moral recession?
A beer aisle.
On July 17th, stop pretending that you're God (you're not) or that you know for certain how God wants you to vote (you don't), and just cast your vote for or against a beer aisle at Wal-Mart.
I don't shop at WM for many reasons, but do think we should be wet. We are looked at as backwards or behind the times and I am sure many companies refuse to locate here, or have business meetings here. Many have told me they would have no reason to go to Paducah if we were wet. On this board, one person mentioned he spent 4,000 annually in Paducah while making his beer runs. I'm sure there are a thousand people who do the same. They spend money at Lowes vs Shoporama, Kroger vs Food Giant, or even the WM in Paducah vs here.
Jim Beam.

Benton, KY

#12 Jul 11, 2012
Rob wrote:
<quoted text>I don't shop at WM for many reasons, but do think we should be wet. We are looked at as backwards or behind the times and I am sure many companies refuse to locate here, or have business meetings here. Many have told me they would have no reason to go to Paducah if we were wet. On this board, one person mentioned he spent 4,000 annually in Paducah while making his beer runs. I'm sure there are a thousand people who do the same. They spend money at Lowes vs Shoporama, Kroger vs Food Giant, or even the WM in Paducah vs here.
I know if we were wet other than going to the doctor every now and then I would have no reason to go to Paducah. I also hate Walmart. I go to king brothers and the dollar store and I get my clothes in Murray. If we had better clothing stores hear in my Marshall county I would have no reason to go to Murray. So you have heard the saying " if you build it it will come" So vote yes and it will come.
einstein

Louisville, KY

#13 Jul 11, 2012
I honestly don't think we'll see liquor stores setting up shop, but I could be wrong. Those ABC licenses are too expensive to purchase on a whim, and they're not always transferable (in the event you want to sell the store down the road).

My point is, if anything can be learned from this whole debate, it's that a stand alone liquor store would not be well received in this county. Not for many, many years (perhaps a generation or two even).

On the other hand, an established retail mega-store like Wal-Mart would not only weather the judgmental storm, it would thrive on it. Can't exactly boycott the only game in town, can you?

I mean come on people, just how different would Benton be if you could suddenly start buying a 12-pack of Bud Light at Wal-Mart? I honestly think some people are just overreacting and think that the zombie apocalypse will result.

It's beer, only now it's sold in Benton. That's it.
honest one

Murray, KY

#14 Jul 11, 2012
I just wish I had the money lost on beer sells in marshal co in the last ten years I would be a million or billion aire
marshall law

Trenton, TN

#15 Jul 11, 2012
[QUOTE who="Jim Beam. "]<quoted text>I know if we were wet other than going to the doctor every now and then I would have no reason to go to Paducah. I also hate Walmart. I go to king brothers and the dollar store and I get my clothes in Murray. If we had better clothing stores hear in my Marshall county I would have no reason to go to Murray. So you have heard the saying " if you build it it will come" So vote yes and it will come.[/QUOTE]
they will come. Build it and the will come
marshall law

Trenton, TN

#16 Jul 11, 2012
einstein wrote:
I honestly don't think we'll see liquor stores setting up shop, but I could be wrong. Those ABC licenses are too expensive to purchase on a whim, and they're not always transferable (in the event you want to sell the store down the road).

My point is, if anything can be learned from this whole debate, it's that a stand alone liquor store would not be well received in this county. Not for many, many years (perhaps a generation or two even).

On the other hand, an established retail mega-store like Wal-Mart would not only weather the judgmental storm, it would thrive on it. Can't exactly boycott the only game in town, can you?

I mean come on people, just how different would Benton be if you could suddenly start buying a 12-pack of Bud Light at Wal-Mart? I honestly think some people are just overreacting and think that the zombie apocalypse will result.

It's beer, only now it's sold in Benton. That's it.
By zombie apocalypse, you mean the incidents with drug crazed people on pcp or something in other states?
jess james

Owensboro, KY

#17 Jul 11, 2012
The drink done here you dumb as... You never know it
einstein

Louisville, KY

#18 Jul 11, 2012
marshall law wrote:
<quoted text>
By zombie apocalypse, you mean the incidents with drug crazed people on pcp or something in other states?
I was being flippant, but yeah something like that or the Walking Dead I suppose. I just mean people seem to think that if we go "wet" that all hope is lost.

It's beer for crying out loud. You don't have to drink it.

I mean, I hate to think how difficult REAL issues like immigration, gay rights, and abortion are for some people around here that get so worked up over where people buy their alcohol. You people realize there's another pretty important vote coming up in November, right?
billy jean

Owensboro, KY

#19 Jul 11, 2012
O know if they start sell beer here I am going start drinking
einstein

Louisville, KY

#20 Jul 11, 2012
billy jean wrote:
O know if they start sell beer here I am going start drinking
wut?

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