Coach

Benton, KY

#82 Sep 22, 2012
Ted wrote:
Look, I can play word games with you all day. Kinda fun in a sick way. But the point is that school sports are SUPPOSED to be for the kids. No one should be forced, bribed, or "talked" into playing if they don't want to. No kid is obligated to play for the " good of the school"' " the good of the county", or to prove anything to anybody else. There are kids that don't play that are just as good an athlete as the ones that play. Maybe better. The kids that are not atheletes are just as good as the ones that are. Being an athelete that play football does not make you anymore special than an athelete that plays golf, or a non athlete.
And the worst reason in the world to play football is because you were forced to by some over the hill ex high school football player that peaked in high school and wants to relive his life thru his kid.
You started this thread by saying that there was more "talent" at Marshall off the field than on. You are probably right. But that is there choice, not yours. It's truly none of your business why they don't want to play.
I havent read anything saying to force any kid to play or to pimp out the cheerleaders. No one has posted to force thier will on any student, it would be illegal to "Force" someone to play football.I dont understand why you keep driving that point. You shouldnt play sick word games on a post were people are trying to have a civil conversation. You have brought nothing to this discussion but confusion with your sick word games. The majority of the kids want a winning football team, just like they want a winning basketball team or golf team. There is absolutley nothing wrong with a tax paying citizen wanting a better football team. There are things in the program that can be improved to achieve those goals and one of those things is to attract existing talent to the sport.
Coach

Benton, KY

#83 Sep 22, 2012
You asked wrote:
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You guys started this thread asking why the kids in high school don't go out for the team. I explained it to you. They dont care about football. It is old fashioned in most kids eyesbtoday. Now you are mad at me. Don't ask if you really don't want to know. By the time your kid gets out of high school there will be 20% unemployment in western ky. The ONLY decent jobs will be at the remaining plants in Calvert, and they will have their choice of applicants with technical degrees. Go ahead and put "high school football" on yout resume.,
The thread was started with, Can Marshall county play football.
Ted

Paducah, KY

#84 Sep 22, 2012
Coach wrote:
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I havent read anything saying to force any kid to play or to pimp out the cheerleaders. No one has posted to force thier will on any student, it would be illegal to "Force" someone to play football.I dont understand why you keep driving that point. You shouldnt play sick word games on a post were people are trying to have a civil conversation. You have brought nothing to this discussion but confusion with your sick word games. The majority of the kids want a winning football team, just like they want a winning basketball team or golf team. There is absolutley nothing wrong with a tax paying citizen wanting a better football team. There are things in the program that can be improved to achieve those goals and one of those things is to attract existing talent to the sport.
Well then, how do you " attract existing talent" to the game when it is obvious they don't want to play? Should not the kids have a right to not play?
Ted

Paducah, KY

#85 Sep 22, 2012
Former football player wrote:
The talent is not on the field. Marshall county has the talent, it just isnt on the field. If you go look in the AG department and the welding classes, and walking down the halls you will find some of the biggest haybailing, steak eating, deer killing country boys in the tri-state area. These young men have not been raised by thier fathers as I was to play hard nosed football, and our past coaches and football program has been unable to attract them to the football field. Until this happens we will never have a consistantly great team.
5th post

It's their fathers fault the talent is not on the field.
card

Murray, KY

#86 Sep 22, 2012
Jeff wrote:
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Well, that's the sotoyn they keep trying to sell, but I don't buy it. Football is more for,he parents than the kids., they teach more bad lessons than good. And what's more, it is out of date. Kids no longer care about it.
Your kid will,not be able to compete in the real,world without a good education., nobody in the business world ismgonna give them a job because they played high school,football,or basketball for,that matter.
go to mayfield and say kids don't care. That's why year in year out they are in the state championship game
Coach

Owensboro, KY

#87 Sep 23, 2012
Ted wrote:
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Well then, how do you " attract existing talent" to the game when it is obvious they don't want to play? Should not the kids have a right to not play?
No one has stated that kids dont have the right, "not to play" with the gamer generation setting on thier butts playing video games all the time it is very clear that todays kids ARE practicing their right not to participate in sports. Jesus Man! look at the childhood obesity rate in america. Look at the suicide rate among teens right now! some of these kids need to get out side and blow off some steam. Physical education is just as important as algebra.
You attract kids to the sport with a better program.
Former Football Player

Owensboro, KY

#88 Sep 23, 2012
Ted wrote:
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5th post
It's their fathers fault the talent is not on the field.
Here you go again with your word games.
I was stating a fact not asigning fault. I never said it was thier fathers fault, YOU did, I said thier fathers have not raised them as my father raised me, to play football. You go to mayfield, paducah, loneoak or hopkinsville and say this crap and you will get your butt handed to you on a plate, and that will be from the mothers.
Not an athlete

Louisville, KY

#89 Sep 23, 2012
Former football player wrote:
Here is what I would do if I were in charge.
First I would implement a county wide campaign to get community support. I would Identify and select the largest young men in the school system and talk to thier parents about testing thier athletic abilities. I would beg for help from the cheerleading squad to talk these young men into playing, I would create an atmosphere of stature and pride with in the school system for these young men, let them know that they are our gladiators, our heros. Once we get these big country boys on the field as our linemen, you will see how great our football team is.
You should put this effort into something productive. Maybe try changing the perception of who is a "gladiator and hero." Honor students should be the kids garnering praise. Not Billy with a 2.01 gpa that can run a 4.4 and block.
Former Football Player

Benton, KY

#90 Sep 23, 2012
Ted wrote:
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5th post
It's their fathers fault the talent is not on the field.
Let me clue you in on something Ted, if I thought that the kids fathers were at fault I have the balls to state that. If I wanted to say, cheerleaders should give hand jobs to the young men playing football, I have the balls to say it. I dont need anyone interpreting or reading into what I am trying to communicate. I was a good highschool football player, I didnt have the size or athletic ability to play college ball, but the sport did teach me alot that I use in my adult life. I do have a daughter, no son to re-live my glory days through.
Former Football Player

Benton, KY

#91 Sep 23, 2012
Not an athlete wrote:
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You should put this effort into something productive. Maybe try changing the perception of who is a "gladiator and hero." Honor students should be the kids garnering praise. Not Billy with a 2.01 gpa that can run a 4.4 and block.
Sure and everyone gets a trophy, everyone is a winner, lets not keep score at any game because someone might get their feelings hurt. You are labeling athletes. High school atletes are required to have a 2.5 gpa in order to play. Smart kids are called gifted and talented, not gladiators, either could be called heros.
Ted

Paducah, KY

#92 Sep 23, 2012
Not an athlete wrote:
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You should put this effort into something productive. Maybe try changing the perception of who is a "gladiator and hero." Honor students should be the kids garnering praise. Not Billy with a 2.01 gpa that can run a 4.4 and block.
The Hornir students don't need the titles or the praise, they will be rewarded with the jobs and carreers.
Ted

Paducah, KY

#93 Sep 23, 2012
Coach wrote:
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I havent read anything saying to force any kid to play or to pimp out the cheerleaders. No one has posted to force thier will on any student, it would be illegal to "Force" someone to play football.I dont understand why you keep driving that point. You shouldnt play sick word games on a post were people are trying to have a civil conversation. You have brought nothing to this discussion but confusion with your sick word games. The majority of the kids want a winning football team, just like they want a winning basketball team or golf team. There is absolutley nothing wrong with a tax paying citizen wanting a better football team. There are things in the program that can be improved to achieve those goals and one of those things is to attract existing talent to the sport.
Depends on your definition of "force" I guess. You know if "former football player" had a son, he would play football no matter what he wanted to do. I've seen LOTS of kids play football because their father "forced"them to. A 14 year old kid that is pressured to play football by a coach/teacher is forced? Maybe, maybe not.
I have no problem with you guys playing whatever games you want. But if you start trying to "force" coerce, pressure, trick, or whatever , my kid into feeling bad about himself because he doesn't want to play, well then I have a problem.
And, call it whatever you want, I don't want my daughter used as a recruitment device for your football team. Ive seen this done at the college level and it's wrong, whatever word you use for it.
Coach

Benton, KY

#94 Sep 24, 2012
Ted wrote:
<quoted text>
Depends on your definition of "force" I guess. You know if "former football player" had a son, he would play football no matter what he wanted to do. I've seen LOTS of kids play football because their father "forced"them to. A 14 year old kid that is pressured to play football by a coach/teacher is forced? Maybe, maybe not.
I have no problem with you guys playing whatever games you want. But if you start trying to "force" coerce, pressure, trick, or whatever , my kid into feeling bad about himself because he doesn't want to play, well then I have a problem.
And, call it whatever you want, I don't want my daughter used as a recruitment device for your football team. Ive seen this done at the college level and it's wrong, whatever word you use for it.
No I dont know that if someone had a son that he would play football. I think it is obvious that no one is forcing kids to play football, not in this county anyway or we would have a better team. No one has said that anyone needs to feel bad because they dont play. If your daughter is a cheerleader, she is already part of what attracts people to football. A few years back there was a kid that committed suicide because he got a C on a test and was ashamed to tell his father, so its not just football.
really

Berwyn, IL

#95 Sep 24, 2012
This thread has turned into the most pathetic pissing contest I have ever seen. Keeping our kids in any activity helps keep them out of trouble. If these activities are sports, band, or academic...the point is keep them busy. On the football subject, our coach has worked at getting the best equipment to prevent injury. But football is a rough sport, we can't prevent all injuries. Our boys are getting there, becoming more focused and learning discipline.
Ted

Paducah, KY

#96 Sep 25, 2012
FRANKFORT, KY - Thousands more public high school students in Kentucky are taking Advanced Placement exams, and those numbers have more than doubled for some minority groups in the past five years.

The Kentucky Department of Education on Monday attributed the rise to a program aimed at increasing both participation and success in the college-level courses.

In a news release, the department said more than 26,500 public high school students took the AP examinations last year, a jump of about 3,000 since the year before. Since 2008, the number of public high school students taking the exams has risen by nearly 12,000.

Minority groups have seen huge growth in participation. The department's figures show the number of Hispanic students taking the exam since 2008 has increased more than 150 percent and African American students more than doubled.
Old Fart

Benton, KY

#97 Sep 27, 2012
Ted wrote:
FRANKFORT, KY - Thousands more public high school students in Kentucky are taking Advanced Placement exams, and those numbers have more than doubled for some minority groups in the past five years.

The Kentucky Department of Education on Monday attributed the rise to a program aimed at increasing both participation and success in the college-level courses.

In a news release, the department said more than 26,500 public high school students took the AP examinations last year, a jump of about 3,000 since the year before. Since 2008, the number of public high school students taking the exams has risen by nearly 12,000.

Minority groups have seen huge growth in participation. The department's figures show the number of Hispanic students taking the exam since 2008 has increased more than 150 percent and African American students more than doubled.
GOLF CLAPPING
Remember the Titans

United States

#98 Sep 27, 2012
Coach Boone:"Think you have a future in football?"
Louie Lastik:"Heck no! I just figure if I gotta to be in school I might as well hit some people while I'm at it."
justathought

West Lafayette, IN

#99 Sep 29, 2012
I think that what were all forgetting here is that the cool thing about sports or any competitive activity for that matter, whether its the academic team or the debate team(which i dont think exists in marshall, not sure) is that they teach life lessons. that everyday isnt going to be the best. some days your going to wake up and that day is going to whoop your butt. its going to SUCK but you have to keep fighting. because fighting for something, anything is what makes life worth living. overcomming challenges and looking back and saying hell ya! i just did that! that might be one of the greatest feelings ever. ill be honest, i played football somewhat recently for marshall, so i might be biased a little, but i try not to be. losing games sucked, it sucked a WHOLE lot. but winning was awesome, freaking great! and when the team lost, the players knew the only way to change that was to try harder, to put more effort in than the guy across the line, to want it more. its the same in everything you do, to be the best in the classroom, you have to be willing to put in the extra time, to put in those study sessions that last till two in the morning. to do it day in and day out, you have to be motivated, to WANT IT. whether its getting a job designing planes with boeing, getting an internship with you favorite car company,or even becoming the manager of mcdonalds. you have to stand out and be the best, and to do that you have to work harder than anyone else that wants that same spot( granted, there are people that are terrible at what they do but are still in charge, and ya. that SUCKS but hey, thats life, and it sometimes sucks). To answer the question earlier concerning why cant marshall attract players to the football team like other school programs, or like it was in the "good ole days"? Maybe its because the marshall county school system now is FULL of other opportunities that can give the same life lessons that football gives? the county is pretty blessed, lets be honest. it is full of motivated faculty running tons of organizations and clubs that teach discipline and hard work on a daily basis. these opportunities havnt always existed for marshall, but im sure as hell glad they do now. every person is different in their interests, and in a place like marshall county, i feel that there is a club, organization, or sport that pretty much any high school student can find interest in. that will teach them life lessons and give them the tools to conquer any obstacle and allow them to look back and go "hell ya! i just did that!"
--GO MARSHALLS--
--GUCK FRAVES--
More life lessons

Paducah, KY

#100 Sep 30, 2012
DARRIN KLIMEK, GETTY
TUSTIN, Calif. The league president and head coach of a children's football team in Orange County have been suspended amid allegations that players were offered bounties to knock opponents out of games.
The executives presided over last year's Tustin Junior Pee Wee Red Cobras, a team of mainly 10- and 11-year-olds.
The Orange County Register says a group of parents alleges that head coach Darren Crawford and an assistant coach offered players cash for getting big hits and for knocking rivals out of playoff games last season. One player suffered a mild concussion.
More life lessons

Paducah, KY

#101 Sep 30, 2012
Ky was just rated as one of the 10 poorest states. Actually 6th from the bottom. You would think that would be our top priority.

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