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conflicted

Benton, KY

#1 Jul 31, 2012
Some may find this post odd since I am a republican and Im sure this is not the best place for me to ask these questions but here goes....I passed the Republican Headquarters earlier today and believe I saw a shirt through the window that had the logo "Christian Nation.". While the window stated "work harder Obama wants to spend your money." Does that send a contradiction to anyone out there but me? You see I am a Christian first and foremost and for some time now the messages on the Headquarters window have bothered me. As I Christian and a mother , I am trying to teach my children Christian values such as love others, be kind and caring, help the poor and the sick, be humble and not boastful, and be honest. These values may seem out of touch in today's society but I believe that not only are they God's teachings that we must strive to follow but just in general I believe it is a good plan to follow to be happy in life. I guess I am old school but I believe we should help the poor. I don't believe it is my place to judge why they were dealt the cards they got, but I believe that Jesus expects us to help them regardless. I can't imagine Jesus questioning those in need to determine whether they were worthy of help. I'm not exactly certain of the window slogan a few weeks ago but I believe it was in reference to not giving handouts and basically telling the poor to get a job. Of course, it was put much more subtle than that but I think that was the intended message. So back to why I am on here in the first place, as Christians ( I think everyone would agree that most Republicans/ Conservative thinkers pride themselves in being Christians) should we post things on our city court square that give messages completely opposite of our Christian values. What do those messages teach our kids? To disrespect authority figures? To tell those less fortunate than us to get a job because it's not our place to help them? That name calling and character assassination of someone you don't personally know is acceptable? I may be the only one in this small town who thinks this but it sure makes it hard to explain to a child that your a Christian and a Republican after they say "Mom, why are those people (in reference to slogans on headquarter window) saying bad things about our president....aren't you one of those people (republicans)?"
yathink

Kendallville, IN

#2 Jul 31, 2012
conflicted wrote:
Some may find this post odd since I am a republican and Im sure this is not the best place for me to ask these questions but here goes....I passed the Republican Headquarters earlier today and believe I saw a shirt through the window that had the logo "Christian Nation.". While the window stated "work harder Obama wants to spend your money." Does that send a contradiction to anyone out there but me? You see I am a Christian first and foremost and for some time now the messages on the Headquarters window have bothered me. As I Christian and a mother , I am trying to teach my children Christian values such as love others, be kind and caring, help the poor and the sick, be humble and not boastful, and be honest. These values may seem out of touch in today's society but I believe that not only are they God's teachings that we must strive to follow but just in general I believe it is a good plan to follow to be happy in life. I guess I am old school but I believe we should help the poor. I don't believe it is my place to judge why they were dealt the cards they got, but I believe that Jesus expects us to help them regardless. I can't imagine Jesus questioning those in need to determine whether they were worthy of help. I'm not exactly certain of the window slogan a few weeks ago but I believe it was in reference to not giving handouts and basically telling the poor to get a job. Of course, it was put much more subtle than that but I think that was the intended message. So back to why I am on here in the first place, as Christians ( I think everyone would agree that most Republicans/ Conservative thinkers pride themselves in being Christians) should we post things on our city court square that give messages completely opposite of our Christian values. What do those messages teach our kids? To disrespect authority figures? To tell those less fortunate than us to get a job because it's not our place to help them? That name calling and character assassination of someone you don't personally know is acceptable? I may be the only one in this small town who thinks this but it sure makes it hard to explain to a child that your a Christian and a Republican after they say "Mom, why are those people (in reference to slogans on headquarter window) saying bad things about our president....aren't you one of those people (republicans)?"
I am a bit confused about your perception of the sign "Christian Nation". Was this county not based on Christian Values?
Small

United States

#3 Aug 1, 2012
Conflicted I applaud you on your values & attempting to pass those same value on to your children, in my opinion it's sorely missing throughout this country...both those values & the majority trying to pass a good values system on to the children.

I think the bigger confliction here is that the shirt & the sign in the window have not much of anything to do with each other. It's still possible to be a Christian & have the value system that you talked about (mainly around helping the less fortunate), and still question our government and how they are spending our money....from a National to a local level.

I completly agree that the poor and less fortunate should be helped and that everyone should do their part to do that. But it's not the governments job to do that, or atleast not establish systems where people become dependent on that aid.

It's our right to decide what our value system is...& if me & u decide we need to help the poor then that's what we need to go do; no middle man needed (government). Our right to do that is just as much as the next person that may decide he needs to use thier money for something else; not what the government tells them it has to be used for. It's those of use that have the values that you described aboves job to try all that we can to get others to see the good efforts produced from our values.
tbird

Villa Park, IL

#4 Aug 1, 2012
The bible says if you don't work you don't eat. It also says Love not sleep less you come to poverty. Yes God cares about the poor He also can't stand lazy bums
Democrat

Murray, KY

#5 Aug 1, 2012
Jesus rode a donkey not an elephant. I believe the Republicans have a twisted message and have poisoned people with money and power. A fascist, elitist, money pinching way of worshiping capitalism at all cost of humanity. Step on the little people because they aren't as smart as I am who have gained so much. Don't forgive that bum because he's just lazy. YOU ARE VERY BLIND PEOPLE. We need a balanced government for all people and not an elite few that include no one in that HQ or all of Kentucky for that matter. These "Christian" people are brain washed to the bone and nothing will change that. I think they fail to realize, no one is in the same situation. Everyone is unique in how they've prospered. If you love people, all people, you will try and help them through government or any other means possible. Even when they spit on you or hate you for what you stand for.
demhunter

United States

#6 Aug 1, 2012
Why are you even opening your liberal POS pie hole? You food stamp using , fag loving scum. Just because someone has done well doesn't mean they did it on the backs of off track uneducated idiots. Most not all of the poor are lazy, lack motivation, no desire to prosper...etc. They want free, free, free
unbelieveable

Owensboro, KY

#7 Aug 1, 2012
Democrat wrote:
Jesus rode a donkey not an elephant. I believe the Republicans have a twisted message and have poisoned people with money and power. A fascist, elitist, money pinching way of worshiping capitalism at all cost of humanity. Step on the little people because they aren't as smart as I am who have gained so much. Don't forgive that bum because he's just lazy. YOU ARE VERY BLIND PEOPLE. We need a balanced government for all people and not an elite few that include no one in that HQ or all of Kentucky for that matter. These "Christian" people are brain washed to the bone and nothing will change that. I think they fail to realize, no one is in the same situation. Everyone is unique in how they've prospered. If you love people, all people, you will try and help them through government or any other means possible. Even when they spit on you or hate you for what you stand for.
Funny thing, when George W was spending their money we did'ent hear a word, he was handed a surplus in millions and in eight years has us TRILLIONS in debt. But these self rightous people don't want to hear this. At the present there are a lot of crack pots in the Republican party that play to a certain group with the birther issue, he's a muslim, and the craziest is hes UN AMERICAN ! Oh yes they want smaller groverment,privatize the school system, social security, do away with unemployment, andy any other program taht benefits the working class of people. Oh Yes, must have another tax break for the super rich. This is not the Republican party of Regan and Eisenhower, it has to much of Rush LIMBAUGH, Glen BECK, Michelle Bachman and all the other nuts. As for the Republicans on the square, I just laugh at their ignorance.
Stock

Nevada, IA

#8 Aug 1, 2012
Small wrote:
Conflicted I applaud you on your values & attempting to pass those same value on to your children, in my opinion it's sorely missing throughout this country...both those values & the majority trying to pass a good values system on to the children.
I think the bigger confliction here is that the shirt & the sign in the window have not much of anything to do with each other. It's still possible to be a Christian & have the value system that you talked about (mainly around helping the less fortunate), and still question our government and how they are spending our money....from a National to a local level.
I completly agree that the poor and less fortunate should be helped and that everyone should do their part to do that. But it's not the governments job to do that, or atleast not establish systems where people become dependent on that aid.
It's our right to decide what our value system is...& if me & u decide we need to help the poor then that's what we need to go do; no middle man needed (government). Our right to do that is just as much as the next person that may decide he needs to use thier money for something else; not what the government tells them it has to be used for. It's those of use that have the values that you described aboves job to try all that we can to get others to see the good efforts produced from our values.
Not a question of helping the less fortunate, that is what you don't understand. It is a question of trying to help people help themselves. How many on the government's dime are buying new cars, have a medical card, etc. I am sick and tired of supporting those who refuse to TRY and help themselves. Take the Mayor of Chicago. He is blasting Chik Fil A for opposing gay marriage. He said they don't share Chicago's values. The murder rate in Chicago has sky rocketed, the welfare is out the roof. Did you know that a high school kid can work there and keep good grades and Chik Fil A will send them to college. Talk about changing lives!!! But they would rather kill each other off, let the government support them, I mean us!!

The values you teach you kids is to work for what they want. Think about all you want right now and spend the next 25 years working for it.
Stock

Nevada, IA

#9 Aug 1, 2012
unbelieveable wrote:
<quoted text>Funny thing, when George W was spending their money we did'ent hear a word, he was handed a surplus in millions and in eight years has us TRILLIONS in debt. But these self rightous people don't want to hear this. At the present there are a lot of crack pots in the Republican party that play to a certain group with the birther issue, he's a muslim, and the craziest is hes UN AMERICAN ! Oh yes they want smaller groverment,privatize the school system, social security, do away with unemployment, andy any other program taht benefits the working class of people. Oh Yes, must have another tax break for the super rich. This is not the Republican party of Regan and Eisenhower, it has to much of Rush LIMBAUGH, Glen BECK, Michelle Bachman and all the other nuts. As for the Republicans on the square, I just laugh at their ignorance.
You don't get it either. The reason he was handed a surplus was because Clinton raised the taxes. That is how surplus are obtained. They didn't quit spending, they just collected more. The rich will do just fine no matter what taxes are handed to them.
Just because you wear a tie to work doesn't mean you are not a working man. The government has done such a wonderful job of running the Medicare system and we just handed them 1/5 of the economy. Did you know that Obama appointed Jeff Emelt, CEO of GE as his jobs czar. Did you know that GE has 243 factories in foreign countries ( outsourcing) and last year they paid 0 in federal corporate tax!! That is how he wants to put America back to work? I guess you can blame Bush for that too. Get a grip. You just want to spew the stupid talking points of the idiot party. Get educated on the facts. Remember our jobs czar is the biggest outsourcer and tax evader there is. How funny.
unbelieveable

Owensboro, KY

#10 Aug 2, 2012
Stock wrote:
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You don't get it either. The reason he was handed a surplus was because Clinton raised the taxes. That is how surplus are obtained. They didn't quit spending, they just collected more. The rich will do just fine no matter what taxes are handed to them.
Just because you wear a tie to work doesn't mean you are not a working man. The government has done such a wonderful job of running the Medicare system and we just handed them 1/5 of the economy. Did you know that Obama appointed Jeff Emelt, CEO of GE as his jobs czar. Did you know that GE has 243 factories in foreign countries ( outsourcing) and last year they paid 0 in federal corporate tax!! That is how he wants to put America back to work? I guess you can blame Bush for that too. Get a grip. You just want to spew the stupid talking points of the idiot party. Get educated on the facts. Remember our jobs czar is the biggest outsourcer and tax evader there is. How funny.
TEA, Yea, I get it.....look what you said Clinton raised taxes, so did Regan. who did they raise taxes on ? Also I would not go there with the Republican candiate that has PROBABLY not paid any taxes in years. Has several off shore accts that he screwed the country out of taxes. As far as medicare goes the goverment did not ruin it , it was greed from the medical system. I am educated in knowledge of both parties and as a working middle class person that cares about the lives of other working people the democratic party is the only answer.
just sayin

Rutherford, TN

#11 Aug 2, 2012
The Republican Party has very little to do with Christianity. They utilize their tactics of hate, fear-mongering, and divisiveness to polarize people and thus attract some fringe factions that are anti-abortion or anti-gay or anti-minority. They spread false rumors about Obama being a Kenyan or a Muslim, but conveniently ignore that Romney is a member of a cult that is in direct conflict with Christianity and the belief in just one God. That doesn't matter to them, because the Republican Party is no longer the fiscally conservative party of Eisenhower. It became, with Reagan, the party of the elite. Even though supply-side (trickle down) economics was tried and failed (all it did was run up a huge debt), that's all they have in their game plan. More tax breaks for the wealthy at the expense of the rest of us. If tax breaks for the wealthy created jobs, Bush would have left office with zero unemployment.

Eisenhower understood the importance of a vibrant middle-class. He understood the importance of infrastructure (that's why the Interstate Highway System bears his name). The top tax rate during Eisenhower's 8 years in office was 91%. That's right, 91%! That rate slowly dropped as we paid off the debt from WWII, but when Reagan took office it was SLASHED and we borrowed money to pay for it. That is money our children will have to pay back. And during the TWENTY YEARS that Reagan, Bush I and Bush II ran up the debt by spending more that we collected in taxes, you didn't hear a PEEP from the so-called conservative Republicans because they are only SOCIALLY conservative. You're more likely to find a fiscal conservative in the Democratic Party than the Republican Party these days! Clinton demonstrated that we can balance the budget with a top tax rate as low as 39%, but Dubya cut taxes again, with the lion's share of the breaks going to the top 1%, and almost put us into the Second Great Depression with tax cuts and deregulation of banking. In fact, the repeal of Glass-Steagall, signed by Clinton, was one of the major causes of the financial meltdown, so it's not all on the Republicans, although they were the ones that initiated the repeal of Glass-Steagall.(Glass-Steagall was an important piece of legislation designed to prevent a recurrence of the Great Depression).

The Republicans only care about the top 1%. In order to get enough votes to stay in power, they adopt extreme positions on wedge issues like abortion, gun control, defense spending, free speech, education, health care, and regulations. They embrace the Tea Party radicals that are totally clueless as to what would really happen to this country if they had their way. That's why you see oxymorons like a retired person at a tea party rally with a sign that reads "Keep your government hands off my Medicare."

The Republican Party of today is a dangerous monster that has set our country on a course to bow to China as the leading economic power so they can get their "stuff" cheaper, thanks to the U.S. Navy protecting worldwide shipping, at the expense of the factory workers here. They either don't understand, or don't care, that the systematic destruction of the middle-class and the massive redistribution of wealth to the top will implode and wreck our economy. Perhaps that's why they have so much money in foreign bank accounts and buy their own islands. They are preparing for the collapse they are creating and in a warped, twisted way, trying to blame on the Democrats!
Democrat

Murray, KY

#12 Aug 2, 2012
just sayin wrote:
The Republican Party has very little to do with Christianity. They utilize their tactics of hate, fear-mongering, and divisiveness to polarize people and thus attract some fringe factions that are anti-abortion or anti-gay or anti-minority. They spread false rumors about Obama being a Kenyan or a Muslim, but conveniently ignore that Romney is a member of a cult that is in direct conflict with Christianity and the belief in just one God. That doesn't matter to them, because the Republican Party is no longer the fiscally conservative party of Eisenhower. It became, with Reagan, the party of the elite. Even though supply-side (trickle down) economics was tried and failed (all it did was run up a huge debt), that's all they have in their game plan. More tax breaks for the wealthy at the expense of the rest of us. If tax breaks for the wealthy created jobs, Bush would have left office with zero unemployment.
Eisenhower understood the importance of a vibrant middle-class. He understood the importance of infrastructure (that's why the Interstate Highway System bears his name). The top tax rate during Eisenhower's 8 years in office was 91%. That's right, 91%! That rate slowly dropped as we paid off the debt from WWII, but when Reagan took office it was SLASHED and we borrowed money to pay for it. That is money our children will have to pay back. And during the TWENTY YEARS that Reagan, Bush I and Bush II ran up the debt by spending more that we collected in taxes, you didn't hear a PEEP from the so-called conservative Republicans because they are only SOCIALLY conservative. You're more likely to find a fiscal conservative in the Democratic Party than the Republican Party these days! Clinton demonstrated that we can balance the budget with a top tax rate as low as 39%, but Dubya cut taxes again, with the lion's share of the breaks going to the top 1%, and almost put us into the Second Great Depression with tax cuts and deregulation of banking. In fact, the repeal of Glass-Steagall, signed by Clinton, was one of the major causes of the financial meltdown, so it's not all on the Republicans, although they were the ones that initiated the repeal of Glass-Steagall.(Glass-Steagall was an important piece of legislation designed to prevent a recurrence of the Great Depression).
The Republicans only care about the top 1%. In order to get enough votes to stay in power, they adopt extreme positions on wedge issues like abortion, gun control, defense spending, free speech, education, health care, and regulations. They embrace the Tea Party radicals that are totally clueless as to what would really happen to this country if they had their way. That's why you see oxymorons like a retired person at a tea party rally with a sign that reads "Keep your government hands off my Medicare."
The Republican Party of today is a dangerous monster that has set our country on a course to bow to China as the leading economic power so they can get their "stuff" cheaper, thanks to the U.S. Navy protecting worldwide shipping, at the expense of the factory workers here. They either don't understand, or don't care, that the systematic destruction of the middle-class and the massive redistribution of wealth to the top will implode and wreck our economy. Perhaps that's why they have so much money in foreign bank accounts and buy their own islands. They are preparing for the collapse they are creating and in a warped, twisted way, trying to blame on the Democrats!


That's spot on! Thank you! Very well stated. I just hope more people see this. I guess the intelligent people normally stay quiet and just vote the way they think they should.
Stock

United States

#13 Aug 2, 2012
unbelieveable wrote:
<quoted text>TEA, Yea, I get it.....look what you said Clinton raised taxes, so did Regan. who did they raise taxes on ? Also I would not go there with the Republican candiate that has PROBABLY not paid any taxes in years. Has several off shore accts that he screwed the country out of taxes. As far as medicare goes the goverment did not ruin it , it was greed from the medical system. I am educated in knowledge of both parties and as a working middle class person that cares about the lives of other working people the democratic party is the only answer.
Clinton raised on the middle class, I was one then. He taxed the commission I made from my hard work at a higher tax rate than normal wages. You are right PROBABLY, not proven. So what if he has an off shore accounts. You don't think that some Democrats do? Why did Nancy Pelosi back off the tax returns issue? She didn't want to expose hers. When the government will reimburse a doctor $1000 for a procedure that costs $200 it is called mismanagement. You are blind if you don't think the government has ruined MC. Get off this "working class" crap. I make high six figures and I can promise you that I work my tail off. What is proven is that Obama's job czar has exported thousands of jobs and his company has not paid any corporate tax. So this is ok because he is a Democrat?
just sayin

Brownsville, TN

#14 Aug 3, 2012
Stock wrote:
Clinton raised on the middle class, I was one then. He taxed the commission I made from my hard work at a higher tax rate than normal wages. You are right PROBABLY, not proven. So what if he has an off shore accounts. You don't think that some Democrats do? Why did Nancy Pelosi back off the tax returns issue? She didn't want to expose hers. When the government will reimburse a doctor $1000 for a procedure that costs $200 it is called mismanagement. You are blind if you don't think the government has ruined MC. Get off this "working class" crap. I make high six figures and I can promise you that I work my tail off. What is proven is that Obama's job czar has exported thousands of jobs and his company has not paid any corporate tax. So this is ok because he is a Democrat?
Clinton raised taxes on just about everybody to undo the damage caused by Reagan and Bush I. The top tax rate at the end of WWII was 94% and debt was 117% of GDP. When Truman left office the top tax rate was 92% and debt was 72% of GDP. When Eisenhower left office, top tax rate was 91% and debt was 55% of GDP. At the end of the Kennedy/Johnson era, top tax rate was 75% and debt was 41% of GDP.(The top tax rate had dropped to 70%, but taxes were raised to pay for the Vietnam War). After Nixon/Ford, the top tax rate was 70% and debt was 34% of GDP. Carter simply maintained the status quo and left with top tax rate of 70% and debt at 33% of GDP. Presidents of BOTH parties did all this AND fought two shooting wars, plus the cold war, the arms race AND put 12 men on the moon! Top tax rate down from 94% to 70% and debt down from 117% of GDP to 33% of GDP!

That changed in 1981 when Reagan took office. At the end of his second term, the top tax rate was slashed from 69% to 28% and debt as a percent of GDP shot up from 32% to 51%. Bush I, in spite of "Read My Lips" did raise taxes to help pay for the Gulf War, but debt still went up to 63% of GDP. When Clinton took office the top tax rate was immediately raised to 39% and stayed there his entire time in office. He brought the debt down from 65% to 57% of GDP and actually created a surplus his last year in office. Bush pissed that away and debt rose to 70% of GDP. Letting the Bush tax cuts expire on people making over $250,000 per year just means going back to a tax rate we had under Clinton when we actually balanced the budget. Which party looks like the fiscally conservative party?

You may have a legitimate gripe about paying a higher tax rate on certain income, and hedge fund managers aren't paying their fair share, I agree there are inequities that need to be addressed. But I want my taxes raised and expenses cut so my children don't have to pay the bill. I want waste and fraud reduced so my tax dollars aren't wasted, but I want a quality education for my children, and I don't begrudge their teachers a fair wage and benefits. I also don't resent that pay and benefits that the firefighters, paramedics, and police officers get to protect my family and my property.
Stock

Nevada, IA

#15 Aug 3, 2012
just sayin wrote:
<quoted text>
Clinton raised taxes on just about everybody to undo the damage caused by Reagan and Bush I. The top tax rate at the end of WWII was 94% and debt was 117% of GDP. When Truman left office the top tax rate was 92% and debt was 72% of GDP. When Eisenhower left office, top tax rate was 91% and debt was 55% of GDP. At the end of the Kennedy/Johnson era, top tax rate was 75% and debt was 41% of GDP.(The top tax rate had dropped to 70%, but taxes were raised to pay for the Vietnam War). After Nixon/Ford, the top tax rate was 70% and debt was 34% of GDP. Carter simply maintained the status quo and left with top tax rate of 70% and debt at 33% of GDP. Presidents of BOTH parties did all this AND fought two shooting wars, plus the cold war, the arms race AND put 12 men on the moon! Top tax rate down from 94% to 70% and debt down from 117% of GDP to 33% of GDP!
That changed in 1981 when Reagan took office. At the end of his second term, the top tax rate was slashed from 69% to 28% and debt as a percent of GDP shot up from 32% to 51%. Bush I, in spite of "Read My Lips" did raise taxes to help pay for the Gulf War, but debt still went up to 63% of GDP. When Clinton took office the top tax rate was immediately raised to 39% and stayed there his entire time in office. He brought the debt down from 65% to 57% of GDP and actually created a surplus his last year in office. Bush pissed that away and debt rose to 70% of GDP. Letting the Bush tax cuts expire on people making over $250,000 per year just means going back to a tax rate we had under Clinton when we actually balanced the budget. Which party looks like the fiscally conservative party?
You may have a legitimate gripe about paying a higher tax rate on certain income, and hedge fund managers aren't paying their fair share, I agree there are inequities that need to be addressed. But I want my taxes raised and expenses cut so my children don't have to pay the bill. I want waste and fraud reduced so my tax dollars aren't wasted, but I want a quality education for my children, and I don't begrudge their teachers a fair wage and benefits. I also don't resent that pay and benefits that the firefighters, paramedics, and police officers get to protect my family and my property.
Awesome post, I must say. As a conservative and falling into the "rich" category, I don't care if they raise my taxes, if it will be put to GOOD use. The answer is not in Republican or Democrat, it is in common sense. Obama convinced us he was the man to fix and handle the economy he was left. Bush endured so much with 911 and venture to say that Gore would have done no better. Why did everyone come down on Bush when gas hit $1.80 per gallon? And now no body say anything about it being $3.50? Romney has the business sense to get us back on track. In business there are winners and losers and yes Bain took down some companies. No worse than what Obama's job czar is doing with GE, which no one has an answer for. Yeah, he has money in off shore accounts so does everyone with that kind of money, Democrats included. Change and simplify the tax code. What is a "fair share"? I am already supporting many who refuse to even try to help themselves, that is what upsets most. The middle class will complain about all these injustices but will not hesitate to buy a gun for a $1000 or go to the Outback and spend $100, but when it comes to their prescriptions, heck no!! I applaud the teachers, police and firefighters. That is why I donate thousands to their causes. Common sense. Vote them all out.
yathink

Kendallville, IN

#16 Aug 3, 2012
Democrat wrote:
Jesus rode a donkey not an elephant. I believe the Republicans have a twisted message and have poisoned people with money and power. A fascist, elitist, money pinching way of worshiping capitalism at all cost of humanity. Step on the little people because they aren't as smart as I am who have gained so much. Don't forgive that bum because he's just lazy. YOU ARE VERY BLIND PEOPLE. We need a balanced government for all people and not an elite few that include no one in that HQ or all of Kentucky for that matter. These "Christian" people are brain washed to the bone and nothing will change that. I think they fail to realize, no one is in the same situation. Everyone is unique in how they've prospered. If you love people, all people, you will try and help them through government or any other means possible. Even when they spit on you or hate you for what you stand for.

I think the Bible said, Jesus road an ass.
Stock

Nevada, IA

#17 Aug 4, 2012
Just another update on Obama's jobs czar, the CEO of GE. GE, who took 27 billion of our tax payer dollars on the bail out and who has yet to pay a single dime back, just spent 5.5 million to sponsor the Manchester United soccer team. Now they are out sourcing their sponsorships!! Again, they paid $0 in federal corporate tax!! Is that their "fair share"?
just sayin

Brownsville, TN

#18 Aug 4, 2012
Stock wrote:
Awesome post, I must say. As a conservative and falling into the "rich" category, I don't care if they raise my taxes, if it will be put to GOOD use. The answer is not in Republican or Democrat, it is in common sense. Obama convinced us he was the man to fix and handle the economy he was left. Bush endured so much with 911 and venture to say that Gore would have done no better.
This is something the Democrats really need to listen to. They can't just defend social programs without admitting there are abuses and taking strong measures to root out abusers. They also need to be willing to admit that the retirement age may need to be raised to keep Social Security solvent. Republicans need to admit that raising taxes is going to be part of a balanced approach.
Stock wrote:
Why did everyone come down on Bush when gas hit $1.80 per gallon? And now no body say anything about it being $3.50? Romney has the business sense to get us back on track. In business there are winners and losers and yes Bain took down some companies. No worse than what Obama's job czar is doing with GE, which no one has an answer for. Yeah, he has money in off shore accounts so does everyone with that kind of money, Democrats included.


I've heard a lot of complaining about Obama and gasoline prices. There is a great sound bite of Romney saying that the President isn't responsible for gas prices. Of course, he was talking about Bush at the time! Romney wasn't a job creator. He was a wealth creator. He made money for his investors. Sometimes that meant creating jobs. Sometimes that meant shipping jobs overseas. Sometimes that meant shutting down factories. There is nothing wrong with venture capitalism, it is a needed component of our economy, but it certainly doesn't qualify someone as a "job creator". More of a financier, really.
Stock wrote:
Change and simplify the tax code. What is a "fair share"? I am already supporting many who refuse to even try to help themselves, that is what upsets most.
That's a real problem. Getting an entry level job should be a step UP from public benefits, not the other way around! I don't mind helping folks get back on their feet, but I resent freeloaders! It is critical that any social program has a strong enforcement mechanism to prosecute frauds.
Stock wrote:
The middle class will complain about all these injustices but will not hesitate to buy a gun for a $1000 or go to the Outback and spend $100, but when it comes to their prescriptions, heck no!!
I think they would be willing to pay more if they didn't see the same thing sold in Canada for less than half what they are paying!
Stock wrote:
I applaud the teachers, police and firefighters. That is why I donate thousands to their causes.
Thank you for that. They are not the enemy!
Stock wrote:
Common sense. Vote them all out.
Ah, but there's the rub. What makes you think, with the current political process we have in both parties, that we can attract ANYONE with common sense to run for public office? You must be more optimistic that I am. I envy that optimism!
just sayin

Brownsville, TN

#19 Aug 4, 2012
Stock wrote:
Just another update on Obama's jobs czar, the CEO of GE. GE, who took 27 billion of our tax payer dollars on the bail out and who has yet to pay a single dime back, just spent 5.5 million to sponsor the Manchester United soccer team. Now they are out sourcing their sponsorships!! Again, they paid $0 in federal corporate tax!! Is that their "fair share"?
No, that is absolutely NOT their fair share!
Eric

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#20 Aug 4, 2012
Republicans are about themselves... Beleive charity is about themselves. Romney is about corporate America.

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