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#41 Dec 19, 2010
I love seeing all these cool guys that their maturity level never made it past high school. All they do is walk around in their 20 year old letter mans jacket reliving the dream. They probably still trade baseball cards too. Keep living the dream guys!
Bart

Ashburn, VA

#43 Dec 19, 2010
Not that there haven't been some good players to go through BCHS in the past 15-20 years, and possibly one or two good teams, but I agree with the last comment. Aside from JoJo Johnson, there isn't one player in the 90's or 2000's that you can even begin to put in the same category as a Doug Collins, Billy Smith, etc. I think that there are a couple of requirements that a player has to meet before calling him "one of the best." It starts with being on a winning team. Some people are commenting that JoJo could've been better than he was. Possibly so, that's not for me to say. But think about Southern Illinois hoops during JoJo's time. There was JoJo in Benton, TJ Wheeler had just finished up at Christopher, Scott Burzynski in Sesser, Shane Hawkins was coming up in Pinkneyville, and Shawn Conner was just a few years removed from ZR. You are talking about guys that went on to play big time basketball at U of I, Notre Dame, and SIU...and who all played on winning teams in high school. Hawkins won a state title in P'ville, JoJo finished 3rd state in Benton...the point is until you have players of that caliber walk through BCHS again, and players that can create the atmosphere that those players created at their respective school, then any name post-JoJo era is insignificant to this conversation. Benton has an amazing basketball tradition that includes many great teams and players, including all-state and all-american players. i laughed out loud when i read names like casey ainslee and the shurtz bros being considered some of the all time greats. good players..yes..not much more than that
Rngr Wtchr

Mobile, AL

#44 Dec 19, 2010
Bart wrote:
Not that there haven't been some good players to go through BCHS in the past 15-20 years, and possibly one or two good teams, but I agree with the last comment. Aside from JoJo Johnson, there isn't one player in the 90's or 2000's that you can even begin to put in the same category as a Doug Collins, Billy Smith, etc. I think that there are a couple of requirements that a player has to meet before calling him "one of the best." It starts with being on a winning team. Some people are commenting that JoJo could've been better than he was. Possibly so, that's not for me to say. But think about Southern Illinois hoops during JoJo's time. There was JoJo in Benton, TJ Wheeler had just finished up at Christopher, Scott Burzynski in Sesser, Shane Hawkins was coming up in Pinkneyville, and Shawn Conner was just a few years removed from ZR. You are talking about guys that went on to play big time basketball at U of I, Notre Dame, and SIU...and who all played on winning teams in high school. Hawkins won a state title in P'ville, JoJo finished 3rd state in Benton...the point is until you have players of that caliber walk through BCHS again, and players that can create the atmosphere that those players created at their respective school, then any name post-JoJo era is insignificant to this conversation. Benton has an amazing basketball tradition that includes many great teams and players, including all-state and all-american players. i laughed out loud when i read names like casey ainslee and the shurtz bros being considered some of the all time greats. good players..yes..not much more than that


Finally, a well-worded reply.
Former Ranger

Newtown, PA

#45 Dec 19, 2010
I would have to say, as a team, the 1974-75 team was one of the best if not the best. Rob Dunbar, Bill Smith, Keith Tabor, Mark Craddock...etc. This team played prior to the different claases being established. They won the Centralia Holiday Tourny, defeating some big Chicago teams. They were ranked #1 in the State for most of the season and were undefeated until the sectional finals when they were defeated by Rich Herrins brother Ron from Olney featuring the Bussard Twins. This team filled Rich Herrin gym to standing room only crowds every home game, sure do not see that now.
BENBBALL

United States

#46 Dec 19, 2010
It is so good to see Nick Hall's post on here. Finally, the true story. I don't know where RANGERS is getting his information from, but Matt Wynn never ran anyone off and certainly didn't play people by their last names. He would have played the best players to win, it is as easy as that. Several of the players RANGERS refers to were boys who just could not stay in line. As to the playing 3 sports....that is an old-school rule (ask players who played for Coach Herrin) that is designed to keep boys in shape and OUT OF TROUBLE...which was a problem for many players in recent years. RANGERS...if you don't know the facts, don't start posting on here!
Rngr Wtchr

Mobile, AL

#47 Dec 19, 2010
Used to be, people would plan their week AROUND Ranger basketball. Now, they'll only come if they're winning. I say, stay the hell away. We don't want your kind here. and my vote for the "BEST PLAYER" to come out of Benton High School...Doug Collins (Billy Smith is MY real close 2nd).
curious

Edison, NJ

#48 Dec 20, 2010
Where would Rich Yunkus and Danny Johnson have come in as far as ability?
Nick Hall

West Lafayette, IN

#49 Dec 20, 2010
BENBBALL wrote:
It is so good to see Nick Hall's post on here. Finally, the true story. I don't know where RANGERS is getting his information from, but Matt Wynn never ran anyone off and certainly didn't play people by their last names. He would have played the best players to win, it is as easy as that. Several of the players RANGERS refers to were boys who just could not stay in line. As to the playing 3 sports....that is an old-school rule (ask players who played for Coach Herrin) that is designed to keep boys in shape and OUT OF TROUBLE...which was a problem for many players in recent years. RANGERS...if you don't know the facts, don't start posting on here!
Yes, I will be the first to tell you that Matt Wynn is a great guy and coach. I just wish I could go back in time and get my head out of my a** and listened to him. But it's all done and over with now.
Serious

West Lafayette, IN

#50 Dec 23, 2010
Jeremy Zazzetti
Buckner High

Lynn, MA

#51 Dec 23, 2010
hahahahahahah wrote:
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never even heard of Nick Hall and I still live in Benton...check the record books you dip shit...track basketball and x country...my name appears in all 3...dont believe it...ask coach shurts who rizzo is...better yet ya wanna ask me come on and ya can find out the easier way
Add to the list Pom Pom Squad
traintrash

United States

#52 Dec 23, 2010
It doesn't matter if the player is on a winning team to be one of the best. That's like putting micheal jordan on a recent benton team. They might only win 8 games but he is still the best. So you have to look at the player himself. And a bad team will hamper a player too.
Retired Ranger

Newtown, PA

#53 Dec 23, 2010
curious wrote:
Where would Rich Yunkus and Danny Johnson have come in as far as ability?
Rich and Danny both had stellar careers as Benton Rangers and both went on to have stellar collegiate careers. Rich went on to play briefly with the Atlantic Hawks, and I would need to check, but Danny may still hold scoring records at Western Kentucky University. They both are among the best that came out of Benon.
I believe it would be extremely difficult to put a tag on any one single player as the "Best". The rich basketball tradition at Benton has produced many outstanding players over the years. If your ever in the Rich Herrin gym, take the time to look at the pictures of the teams from the past, you may be in one yourself, they are all good.
Bart

Ashburn, VA

#54 Dec 24, 2010
I agree that not every single great player necessarily has to be on a winning team. I agree, it is very possible for a great player to be on a team that didn't win many games. However, if you look at the trends of all of the consensus great players such as Yunkus, Collins, Smith, D. Johnson, J. Johnson, etc..they were all on winning teams. It just seems to me that being great and winning go hand in hand. I guess that my comment about that was more in response to the comment about the "potential" that the 2008 class had, and talking about the "great" players that were on that team, and how Coach Wynn broke them up...talk about funny. That group had a couple of decent to good bball players, and did they even post a .500 record? That group is irrelevant to this conversation, i'm sorry. And, take a little responsibility for the fact that the class of 2008 couldn't stay together. its not an easy thing to do, and unfortunately a few of those players made bad choices that resulted in troubled consequences.
Nick Hall

West Lafayette, IN

#55 Dec 25, 2010
Bart wrote:
I agree that not every single great player necessarily has to be on a winning team. I agree, it is very possible for a great player to be on a team that didn't win many games. However, if you look at the trends of all of the consensus great players such as Yunkus, Collins, Smith, D. Johnson, J. Johnson, etc..they were all on winning teams. It just seems to me that being great and winning go hand in hand. I guess that my comment about that was more in response to the comment about the "potential" that the 2008 class had, and talking about the "great" players that were on that team, and how Coach Wynn broke them up...talk about funny. That group had a couple of decent to good bball players, and did they even post a .500 record? That group is irrelevant to this conversation, i'm sorry. And, take a little responsibility for the fact that the class of 2008 couldn't stay together. its not an easy thing to do, and unfortunately a few of those players made bad choices that resulted in troubled consequences.
I was apart of that team of 2008 and I'll be the first to ell you I made bad choices and regret them every day. I wish I would have worked at it harder now I'm going to grow as a parent living my dream through my kids life.. We did have great potential, IF we stayed together. NO ONE ran me off. I know our class didn't have a JoJo or any one remotely close to his talent but we did have a lot of great athletes in our class. We just didnt have the chemistry. Great teams hang out with each other off the court and we didnt. we all, for the most part, didnt get along. My senior year if we had all the players we COULD have had, The team could have been Casey Ainslie, Sayler Shurtz, Trevor Myers, Taylor Duncan, Reid Roper, Gavin Nolen, Tim Corn, Zach LaBuwi, Bryson Potts, Justin Gessell, and myself. Plus some more.. There, Bart, is a lot of solid players. Therefore, the Class of '08 had "Potential".
Bart

Ashburn, VA

#56 Jan 1, 2011
if you say so...i respect what you are saying. i think it takes a lot of guts to admit your faults and to show respect to coach wynn, as you have done. the biggest word that you said is IF. Roper was smart and left. Ainslee didn't live up to his potential until he left, and we all know why that happened. myers and corn had shortened seasons for the trouble they encountered their sr. season. others of you quit...i mean, that's quite a few "IF's" being discussed. i see what you are saying, but again, pretty irrelevant to the topic of "all time greats". No?
Anonymous

Camp Hill, PA

#57 Jan 2, 2011
I played basketball in Benton for a few years in the 90's and I seen alot of players and games before that time and after. To talk about the best team would be Dunbar, Tabor, and Craddock. They had it all the big guy, ball handler and pure shooter!!! The best player to me is Jo Jo Johnson. He had the best all around game and also played against some of the best around. I have not really heard alot about these younger kids whe, but when I was in school everybody had heard of JO JO!! I will say that maybe the most underrated player might be Brian Kern, he kept the team complete all through high school!!! Just my thoughts I know alot of great players in all sports have gone through Benton!!!
Brittnie Ainslie Wells

United States

#58 Feb 7, 2011
As most of you know, I am Casey's sister. I am completely disgusted at this site and I don’t even know where to start. Casey is an amazing person and athlete. He did make mistakes in high school, like many other kids do but he has moved on with his life and is doing great- still playing ball I might add. There has been many talented players that have come out of Benton- some that are mentioned on this site have been in a TON more trouble than my brother and everyone knows that... if they got into trouble that is one thing, but you people seem to be discussing TALENT and with that being said Casey should be discussed. Casey has always put in the time, dedication and love for the game and that is what gets you somewhere in this world. My whole family is very proud of him and I would really appreciate it if people would stop trying to bring him down.
Nick Hall

West Lafayette, IN

#59 Feb 7, 2011
I played ball with Casey since the 4th grade and he has worked real hard to get where he's at today. He should have gotten more recognition than he received. Teenagers make mistakes and things but I do know he was the best player in our class but yet when we were Sophomores, Sayler started over Casey. I'm not taking anything away from fly but I do think that Benton is all about the last names. If your mom and dad arent Dr.s or Orthodontists then you might as well go another way. And I remember when Ainslie threw one down in regionals against Goreville and got benched for it. Doesn't make sense.. Dude got serious hops
laughable

United States

#60 Feb 7, 2011
Posting names like shurtz and corn on here wither the greats is stupid. Those guys are douche bags.
Just a Grown Up

Dix, IL

#61 Feb 8, 2011
hmm wrote:
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I agree 100% with you. I played with Casey and he was an outstanding player and yet the Shurtz boys played over him. As a matter of fact, our sophomore year Sayler started over him. BENTON IS ALL ABOUT THE LASTNAME WHEN IT COMES TO SPORTS!!!!
They are also all about the last name when it comes to hiring teachers, that's why Benton is ranked so low in the state academically.

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